Mazda Parts went up big time...

glenrx7 · 10-23-2008, 02:16 PM

Just giving everyone a heads up. The price on rotary parts specifically rotor housing went up retail on a 95 rotor housings is 1000+

We cant sell them Lower than 800.00 a housing now ....

Eshafts are over 400.00, not that people buy these alot...

Just the rotor parts to rebuild are over 1k.....

Hoefully that comes down one day but I doubt that is going to happen.

Just a heads up

Phoenix7 · 10-23-2008, 02:23 PM

the world economies are hurting right now.

BLKTOPTRVL · 10-23-2008, 03:11 PM

Lets not forget Dealer greed...

I needed a part that the dealer listed for $129.

When I went in to get it, I saw the price to the dealer for this same part was about $52.

Whizbang · 10-23-2008, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLKTOPTRVL

Lets not forget Dealer greed...

I needed a part that the dealer listed for $129.

When I went in to get it, I saw the price to the dealer for this same part was about $52.

they do have to make money.

BLKTOPTRVL · 10-23-2008, 03:46 PM

I can understand making money.

But do they truly need a 100+ % markup on parts?

I think this is the prime reason nobody does business with a delaer unless they absolutely haveto.

The tires on my BMW cost $1300 a set on the street; but if you go to the dealer, they will charge upward of $1600. So, nobody (in their right mind) buys from them. But if they had a reasonable markup, they could compete and the customers would be more likely to buy from them - not only the tires, but also other parts.

At this stage, the competition to dealers for sources of rare parts is not other stores; dealers do have a lock on these special parts. Instead, the competition is the boneyard. If the dealers didn't try to rape the customers everytime they came in for parts, they would probably get a lot more business and benefit from more good will.

My5ABaby · 10-23-2008, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLKTOPTRVL

I can understand making money.

But do they truly need a 100+ % markup on parts?

I think this is the prime reason nobody does business with a delaer unless they absolutely haveto.

The tires on my BMW cost $1300 a set on the street; but if you go to the dealer, they will charge upward of $1600. So, nobody (in their right mind) buys from them. But if they had a reasonable markup, they could compete and the customers would be more likely to buy from them - not only the tires, but also other parts.

At this stage, the competition to dealers for sources of rare parts is not other stores; dealers do have a lock on these special parts. Instead, the competition is the boneyard. If the dealers didn't try to rape the customers everytime they came in for parts, they would probably get a lot more business and benefit from more good will.

I would assume dealers make a large part of their money off service and parts. When I bought my brand new Mazda 6 I paid invoice. They probably still made a little money somehow, but not a lot, and certainly not enough to keep a showroom/employees going. Yet, having to take it in for service and such is where they really get my money.

tom93r1 · 10-24-2008, 12:56 AM

Most other markets you retail something for 2x to 3x what you buy it for (or so my friend who runs a flower shop tells me).

The rotary engine industry (automotive in general) is much more cut throat than that. Ask any vendor and they will tell you the profit margin is much smaller, like maybe 20% if you are lucky. The big dealers I think generally try to adhere to something closer to the 2x markup, but private shops couldn't sell anything if they did that. If our cost goes up any prices have to adjust immediately, otherwise every part would be sold at a loss and nobody can operate like that.

It sucks the state of our economy now

djmtsu · 10-24-2008, 07:19 AM

When I worked at Nelson Mazda, parts were marked up about 160%, rotary/RX-7 related parts were marked up 300%. No lie.

glenrx7 · 10-24-2008, 09:10 AM

Well, yeah dealers tend to go for a higher mark up yet I know what they are paying on parts and there mark up is not 160% on rotary parts anyway... I bought a 4 dollar toyota part from a dealer and they wanted 55 bucks so I know they can be scammers..

We buy direct and our mark up is low ...very low

G

10-23-2008, 02:16 PM	#1
glenrx7 Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 199 Rep Power: 17	Mazda Parts went up big time... Just giving everyone a heads up. The price on rotary parts specifically rotor housing went up retail on a 95 rotor housings is 1000+ We cant sell them Lower than 800.00 a housing now .... Eshafts are over 400.00, not that people buy these alot... Just the rotor parts to rebuild are over 1k..... Hoefully that comes down one day but I doubt that is going to happen. Just a heads up

10-23-2008, 03:11 PM	#3
BLKTOPTRVL Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 192 Rep Power: 17	Lets not forget Dealer greed... I needed a part that the dealer listed for $129. When I went in to get it, I saw the price to the dealer for this same part was about $52. __________________ ...shoot a mother-humpin moose, eight days of the week...

10-23-2008, 03:46 PM	#5
BLKTOPTRVL Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 192 Rep Power: 17	I can understand making money. But do they truly need a 100+ % markup on parts? I think this is the prime reason nobody does business with a delaer unless they absolutely haveto. The tires on my BMW cost $1300 a set on the street; but if you go to the dealer, they will charge upward of $1600. So, nobody (in their right mind) buys from them. But if they had a reasonable markup, they could compete and the customers would be more likely to buy from them - not only the tires, but also other parts. At this stage, the competition to dealers for sources of rare parts is not other stores; dealers do have a lock on these special parts. Instead, the competition is the boneyard. If the dealers didn't try to rape the customers everytime they came in for parts, they would probably get a lot more business and benefit from more good will. __________________ ...shoot a mother-humpin moose, eight days of the week... Last edited by BLKTOPTRVL; 10-23-2008 at 03:59 PM.

10-24-2008, 07:19 AM	#8
djmtsu My minds tellin' me no... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 4,043 Rep Power: 22	When I worked at Nelson Mazda, parts were marked up about 160%, rotary/RX-7 related parts were marked up 300%. No lie. __________________ 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 2003 Toyota Tundra TRD 2015 Toyota 4Runner SR5

10-24-2008, 12:56 AM	#7
tom93r1 Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	Most other markets you retail something for 2x to 3x what you buy it for (or so my friend who runs a flower shop tells me). The rotary engine industry (automotive in general) is much more cut throat than that. Ask any vendor and they will tell you the profit margin is much smaller, like maybe 20% if you are lucky. The big dealers I think generally try to adhere to something closer to the 2x markup, but private shops couldn't sell anything if they did that. If our cost goes up any prices have to adjust immediately, otherwise every part would be sold at a loss and nobody can operate like that. It sucks the state of our economy now

10-24-2008, 09:10 AM	#9
glenrx7 Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 199 Rep Power: 17	Well, yeah dealers tend to go for a higher mark up yet I know what they are paying on parts and there mark up is not 160% on rotary parts anyway... I bought a 4 dollar toyota part from a dealer and they wanted 55 bucks so I know they can be scammers.. We buy direct and our mark up is low ...very low G