The Rx8 6-Speed into an FB Thread!

***TitaniumTT*** · 10-27-2011, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raksj04

I thought the RX-8 trans was not that strong. weaker then the TII

Really, why would you say/think that?

Raksj04 · 10-27-2011, 09:14 AM

When I was talking about swaping in a Rx-8 6-speed in to my FC when I had the N/A engine I was told the trans was weak and the TII trans is better

***TitaniumTT*** · 10-27-2011, 10:41 AM

You shouldn't believe everything you hear. Did you even ask these people if they have every

1) torn down an RX8 trans
2) ever tear down a TII trans
3) know how or more importantly WHEN the trannies break
4) what other cars those trannies live in?

Raksj04 · 10-27-2011, 11:06 AM

So how much Power or toqure can a stock RX-8 tranny take? Is that tranny used in Grand am racing with the 3 rotor. And no at that time I asked those questions I didnt question them, It was years ago. I know better now.

***TitaniumTT*** · 10-27-2011, 04:33 PM

No one knows how much torque it can take, it's too weak for anyone to try

Last time mine was apart it showed no visible wear after being abused at the track behind a 330 ft/lb 8k rpm rotary. It SHOULD be at next weeks PCA DE @ NJMP for 2 days @ ThunderBolt and a day @ Lightning

Grand Am racing generally uses dogboxes or Jericho's or a tranny you can pick your own ratios. This Aisan is none of those, it's a street car tranny, not a race car tranny, there is a big difference

You know what better now?

Raksj04 · 10-27-2011, 04:37 PM

yes I do.

"The more you know. Knowledge is power!"

Thank you. I may rethink swapping one in my FC now, Should get better MPGs. right?

***TitaniumTT*** · 10-27-2011, 05:01 PM

Nope, you'll get worse because the FD is higher, more RPM's more fuel etc etc.

You can't fit an RX8 6-spd into an FC. The shifter will sit 3.625" farther forward. Where does that put you? In the stereo

Raksj04 · 10-27-2011, 05:59 PM

I could always move the engine back. And there is no such word as can't in engineering or fabrication, too costly or not beneficial do exist.

***TitaniumTT*** · 10-27-2011, 06:08 PM

Than do it, move the engine back nearly 4 inches.

Post pics too

How much engineering or fabrication experience do you have?

Funny thing is, I've got a tranny based on on RX8 that I'll be installing tomorrow

Whizbang · 10-31-2011, 04:50 AM

Well a friend in Boise has an FB with an entire FE engine and transmission, seems to all fit rather well. Mounts were custom as was the crossmember. But runs damn good.

Raksj04 · 10-31-2011, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Than do it, move the engine back nearly 4 inches.

Post pics too

How much engineering or fabrication experience do you have?

Funny thing is, I've got a tranny based on on RX8 that I'll be installing tomorrow

Far less then you. "Can't" is a word I don't like to use, Is it out of my ability to be done in a clean and reliable matter. Yes, well maybe I have never tried nor do I plan to in the near future.

silverfdturbo6port · 12-07-2011, 05:19 PM

Hmm i wonder if it can handle a 600hp engine?

***TitaniumTT*** · 12-07-2011, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raksj04

Far less then you. "Can't" is a word I don't like to use, Is it out of my ability to be done in a clean and reliable matter. Yes, well maybe I have never tried nor do I plan to in the near future.

Than why bother bringing this thread back from the depths?

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverfdturbo6port

Hmm i wonder if it can handle a 600hp engine?

Put it behind said 600hp engine.
Drop in Car
Strap on Dyno
??????
Report results
PROFIT!!!!!

Whizbang · 12-11-2011, 10:02 AM

my biggest issue right now is I have no reason to spend the money to do this swap! If my Miata hybrid in the rally car craps, then ill certainly try it out. since money is better now, i might aquire two Rx8 transmission i know of locally from folks. Both have "bad 2nd gear" problems.

10-27-2011, 10:41 AM	#18
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	You shouldn't believe everything you hear. Did you even ask these people if they have every 1) torn down an RX8 trans 2) ever tear down a TII trans 3) know how or more importantly WHEN the trannies break 4) what other cars those trannies live in? __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

10-27-2011, 04:33 PM	#20
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	No one knows how much torque it can take, it's too weak for anyone to try Last time mine was apart it showed no visible wear after being abused at the track behind a 330 ft/lb 8k rpm rotary. It SHOULD be at next weeks PCA DE @ NJMP for 2 days @ ThunderBolt and a day @ Lightning Grand Am racing generally uses dogboxes or Jericho's or a tranny you can pick your own ratios. This Aisan is none of those, it's a street car tranny, not a race car tranny, there is a big difference You know what better now? __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

10-27-2011, 05:01 PM	#22
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Nope, you'll get worse because the FD is higher, more RPM's more fuel etc etc. You can't fit an RX8 6-spd into an FC. The shifter will sit 3.625" farther forward. Where does that put you? In the stereo __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

10-27-2011, 06:08 PM	#24
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Than do it, move the engine back nearly 4 inches. Post pics too How much engineering or fabrication experience do you have? Funny thing is, I've got a tranny based on on RX8 that I'll be installing tomorrow __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

10-31-2011, 04:50 AM	#25
Whizbang Respecognize! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp iTrader: (5) Posts: 3,190 Rep Power: 20	Well a friend in Boise has an FB with an entire FE engine and transmission, seems to all fit rather well. Mounts were custom as was the crossmember. But runs damn good. __________________ For current updates and event coverage check out Follow on Twitter! @WhizbangRally Whizbang Rally's Webpage \| Facebook

10-27-2011, 09:14 AM	#17
Raksj04 I have Ultra power in me. Join Date: Sep 2011 iTrader: (2) Posts: 457 Rep Power: 14	When I was talking about swaping in a Rx-8 6-speed in to my FC when I had the N/A engine I was told the trans was weak and the TII trans is better

10-27-2011, 11:06 AM	#19
Raksj04 I have Ultra power in me. Join Date: Sep 2011 iTrader: (2) Posts: 457 Rep Power: 14	So how much Power or toqure can a stock RX-8 tranny take? Is that tranny used in Grand am racing with the 3 rotor. And no at that time I asked those questions I didnt question them, It was years ago. I know better now.

10-27-2011, 04:37 PM	#21
Raksj04 I have Ultra power in me. Join Date: Sep 2011 iTrader: (2) Posts: 457 Rep Power: 14	yes I do. "The more you know. Knowledge is power!" Thank you. I may rethink swapping one in my FC now, Should get better MPGs. right?

10-27-2011, 05:59 PM	#23
Raksj04 I have Ultra power in me. Join Date: Sep 2011 iTrader: (2) Posts: 457 Rep Power: 14	I could always move the engine back. And there is no such word as can't in engineering or fabrication, too costly or not beneficial do exist.

12-07-2011, 05:19 PM	#27
silverfdturbo6port 500hp club Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: spokane iTrader: (0) Posts: 79 Rep Power: 14	Hmm i wonder if it can handle a 600hp engine?

12-11-2011, 10:02 AM	#29
Whizbang Respecognize! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp iTrader: (5) Posts: 3,190 Rep Power: 20	my biggest issue right now is I have no reason to spend the money to do this swap! If my Miata hybrid in the rally car craps, then ill certainly try it out. since money is better now, i might aquire two Rx8 transmission i know of locally from folks. Both have "bad 2nd gear" problems. __________________ For current updates and event coverage check out Follow on Twitter! @WhizbangRally Whizbang Rally's Webpage \| Facebook