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Old 04-04-2013, 03:43 PM   #1
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well, really the only setups i've thrown together that have turbos efficient beyond 22-25psi are running ethanol in the tank. i simply haven't spent much time trying to push pump gas when there's better alternatives.
That is where me and mud flap will disagree with you

what is 'better' is just in one mans eye's v's another, but if you need help it is on offer, thus this thread.

I say there is NOTHING better than a real car that can be driven anywhere, anytime, and use the most common fuel around and make more power than people can on Roo16 lol or methanol in some cases lol, that is what I call 'better way'
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:27 PM   #2
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what about failsafes? if you lose the water you'll be walking.
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Old 04-04-2013, 07:33 PM   #3
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what about failsafes? if you lose the water you'll be walking.
same argument applies to one fuel injector on a rotor
on my system never ever had a system fail in over 20 years and over 1000 systems supplied
it is many times more reliable than any other "failure enducing' sub system that all engines rely on.
so that while a concern is a non issue............. unless of course you are taking advice on system set up from bdc or hc or the like lol
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:32 PM   #4
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Well... according to bdc his meth powered non intercooled system was far better at removing heat from his charge air than my ducted tighter than a frogs asshole VMIC setup.... regardless fo the number of e6k screen shits he put up.... he still couldn't figure out the math... even when explained to him repeatedly.... and was more reliable than my intercooler.... still trying to wrap my head arounsd that one...
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:05 PM   #5
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Well... according to bdc his meth powered non intercooled system was far better at removing heat from his charge air than my ducted tighter than a frogs asshole VMIC setup.... regardless fo the number of e6k screen shits he put up.... he still couldn't figure out the math... even when explained to him repeatedly.... and was more reliable than my intercooler.... still trying to wrap my head arounsd that one...
I am having a ccccuuuuuunnnnntttt of a day at work and you made me laugh

E6GAY LOL

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no one else using waterinj? with results?

hey Rice do you have any experience with the race logic performance box? I was looking into buying one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RACELOGIC-PE...item27ceffc928
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Old 04-07-2013, 03:56 PM   #7
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no one else using waterinj? with results?

hey Rice do you have any experience with the race logic performance box? I was looking into buying one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RACELOGIC-PE...item27ceffc928
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What would you like to know?

BUY IT! and ask questions later, it will be the best investment you make if you want to measure the performance of your car there is nothing better.
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or maybe this one to gather at least a little bit of info.

http://www.gtechpro.com/ss_fanatic.html

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Hey mudflap, is your BW S475 just one of the $650 ghetto versions? .......... fuck they are good for the price! been using a few lately.
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:10 AM   #10
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Also mudflap, no need for you to guess restrictions, BW have a fantastic tool (no ghetto spec BW's included though! you need to shell out and buy a race turbocharger version) to do all the testing you need, just need to feed it with some right info from basic testing etc.
This is a fully worked over 1120bhp 13B turbo set up I have done, for you to look over YES IT WORKS IN REALITY.
Buy yourself a turbine speed sensor and a few pressure sensors and map this stuff, its not too hard to do
Nothing worse than guessing

Here is the link > http://www.turbodriven.com/performan...6_wrsin=92044&
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Yes just the basic S475 but we modified the compressor cover for a bit more flow. You can't beat them for the price. Ours has had a real hiding and yet we have not had a single problem. And the thrust still feels as good as new. Even when street/circuit driving the lag is less than you would expect from a turbo that size and transient response is surprisingly good. It easily makes 25psi+ on the 2 step but it's no use to us as we get a better 60ft by leaving the line at 15psi or less - hard when the gate spring is 20psi.

Another reason why they are such good value for dollar - the wheels are balanced individually and parts are cheap, so they can be easily rebuilt at home.

The matchbot is flash but we've run out of aux in's for logging so don't have enough real data to make much use of it. Fuel press and turbine press have to take turns on the same channel haha. It might be time to change from the G4RX to an Extreme.
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I like them too, took me too many years of being 'raped' by Garrett to finally wake up.
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Yes just the basic S475 but we modified the compressor cover for a bit more flow. You can't beat them for the price. Ours has had a real hiding and yet we have not had a single problem. And the thrust still feels as good as new. Even when street/circuit driving the lag is less than you would expect from a turbo that size and transient response is surprisingly good. It easily makes 25psi+ on the 2 step but it's no use to us as we get a better 60ft by leaving the line at 15psi or less - hard when the gate spring is 20psi.

Another reason why they are such good value for dollar - the wheels are balanced individually and parts are cheap, so they can be easily rebuilt at home.

The matchbot is flash but we've run out of aux in's for logging so don't have enough real data to make much use of it. Fuel press and turbine press have to take turns on the same channel haha. It might be time to change from the G4RX to an Extreme.
when i first laid hands on the S475 years ago i couldn't believe the amount of turbo you got per dollar. it is quite responsive for that huge T6 frame on an engine that barely matches it in size.

it won't ever be as responsive as some of the mid frame BB turbos but the BB market is still anal about selling you all new shit when the turbos go south. fuck Garrett, the company you love to hate.. love the response, hate the price tags when the turbos do wind up needing to go into the shop. rather surprised no one has offered rebuild kits for them yet, regardless that ceramic ball bearings are not exactly super hard to find now. anyone who can mill a bore could probably find an oversize bearing set to work.

turbos aren't rocket science, though the manufacturers try to convince you that it is. 2 fan blades, 2 bearings, thrust bearing, 2 seals and balancing to handle the 120k+ RPMs they spin up to.
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I have been everywhere with turbo's dealing with one idiot here who was manufacturing his own BB centers (lost count of how many failed!) in the end the old shit box plain bearings suspended by oil is all you need, and the cunts can be rebuilt by anyone and they are for 'like size' really no different anyway.

Got people who run these on Diesel tractor pullers at near 80psi boost! not dreamers like on the internets but cunts who know what a turbo speed sensor is, people make their own Titanium compressor wheels and upgraded thrust bearings etc etc.

Garrett, and the dreamers! can all go lick my dildo cannon !@ massive rip off and for really no tangilbe benefit except to their share holders LOL.
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