My RX7SP build up

[RICE RACING]

The performance is but one aspect of it that puts a smile on my face, but its the all round nature of it that is just flat out amazing.

Reaching in and starting it from 0 deg C ambient and it dong fast idle warm up without issue, perfect fueling, hot or cold. Air you can breath out the tail pipe! (no rotary fuel smell), how fucking quiet it is! on a long trip I do better than 7lt per 100km! long term fuel economy on a combined cycle is around 10lt per 100km..... which is just amazing. even when using full power the efficiency of the engine set up is just gag factor!@ I mean you can just put in 20lt of fuel and do over 150km of driving ! and that is doing performance work and cruising. I totally love it best all round set up I have ever made, anyone who goes in it wants to buy it OR replicate the set up 100%

[MaD^94Rx7]

I like the way you approach your every performance goal a step at a time and test everything in the real world.
No super tech talk BS. I think I will be talking to you soon about some CDI ignition setup but I need to gather some funds before as I understand it's not cheap. Then again having the best was never cheap.
Hope you get as much time enjoying it as you do working on it

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by MaD^94Rx7

I like the way you approach your every performance goal a step at a time and test everything in the real world.
No super tech talk BS. I think I will be talking to you soon about some CDI ignition setup but I need to gather some funds before as I understand it's not cheap. Then again having the best was never cheap.
Hope you get as much time enjoying it as you do working on it

I learned long ago that there is more to making a car than just a no verified dyno run or a BS 1/4 mile pass...... these days you get people who build (or pay to get built a track car and try to get cred with a shit box that lasts 20 minutes before shitting its mega dollar alcohol engine to oblivion ) ALL OF THAT CRAP IS WORTHLESS!!!!

My idea of a car is one that you can get it and go anywhere in, be efficient, do long distances and drive it hundreds of miles between fills if needed and race anyone anytime anyplace, without needing to carry mad max poofter fuel drums or worry about what ratio of alcohol you have or what type of premix to use or any of the other RAFT of crap excuses these cunts come up with ....... and what is the point of it all if its a gay loud obnoxious turd of a motors that wont work with anything less than a 4" drain pipe sounding like a chainsaw cutting up a homosexual at a male bukkake festival.

Engineer a car right and you will be amazed at how fast, efficient and durable it can be, all on normal petrol and water :biggthumpu p:
Keeping rotaries going and showing PIST ON loosers what a real car is like, representing out on the highways and roads, taking on all challengers who dare question Felix Wankels master piece of mechanical engineering.

EDIT: I wanted to share with you I filled the RICESP up with 110lt of fuel and did a huge drive up the mountains (its about 3 hours drive away from base) up there at altitude there is an amazing bit of test road and fuck me! getting there at the crack of dawn and opening up the big power was just amazing! The ability to go on such long distance non stop drives is what makes this car so special, and more fun than just the pure power production ability it has. Had a lot of fun and turn around and go back..... all round 7 hours driving all on one tank of fuel fast, reliable, efficient and totally usable, its how every turbo rotary should be!!!

[MaD^94Rx7]

Awesome stuff!

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by MaD^94Rx7

Awesome stuff!

It's the best advertising tool I have (BDC and HC take note!), in some ways its bad cause I get sick of people offering to buy my car after going for a ride in it! though it is flattering to hear them go on and on about how unbelievable a package it is ..............



And in all fairness to them, it is

[classicauto]

You're running NRS ceramics in this car still? With or without the experimental corners?

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by classicauto

You're running NRS ceramics in this car still? With or without the experimental corners?

^ No and No. ^

The engine is 100% Mazda std 13B-REW. < Stripped, checked, re assembled and put in the car just as it comes out of the box 100% stock standard with zero modifications or parts changed from factory.

^ That is the BEST part about it, ANYONE can go and achieve exactly the same result as no special parts are required nor needed!, you have a fresh healthy non molested factory engine and you will get the same result. I did this MANY years ago with a customer car but based on a T2 Series 5 engine block, back then I put it down to a one off, this times I repeated it and have achieved much more power ......... stock std engines are all you ever need, more power than you can ever handle and durability is unmatched. But the absolute best part is the power band, it shits on anything else.

[project86]

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

^ No and No. ^

The engine is 100% Mazda std 13B-REW. < Stripped, checked, re assembled and put in the car just as it comes out of the box 100% stock standard with zero modifications or parts changed from factory.

So all of your performance gains are from solid tuning? Thats just fantastic. what whp are you putting down?

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by project86

So all of your performance gains are from solid tuning? Thats just fantastic. what whp are you putting down?

The honest way I measure the power its around 330~350rwkw. If you measured it on a dyno dynamics (which read much much lower than a dyno jet) then it would be around 400+rwkw, in scum english metric units this is 530+rwhp.....

For all that typing though I dont give a fuck about dyno sheets or their guestimates as they really dont add up to reality in most cases!

All I know is that a stock 276bhp RX7 takes so long and a certain distance to do an acceleration pull (as I posted) and mine if over twice as powerful since takes under half the time and under half the distance, so by my measure its twice as powerful (as I listed in the measured RWKW) in my tests (between a spirit R type A and RICESP) and that is on much lower boost and power to what I run it at now

I estimate the engine power at around a GENUINE 550bhp+ but with more in reserve, which is the amazing part. And yes its down to nothing more than water injection and very fine set up of the whole system, rather than any exotic mega dollar engiens or other snake oil

[project86]

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

in scum english metric units this is 530+rwhp.....

haha thank you. often times i wish the U.S. would just switch to metric...after all i believe we are the only country using standard measurements haha.

either way im seriously impressed by this. The entire time ive been into rotaries (only since about 05-06 to present) ive been under the impression that the only way to gain power really is to start porting. and i suppose thats under the assumtion of more air in more air out+more fuel= more power. but you have clearly blown that out of the water.

Question... Would there be any benefit to doing water inj on a naturally aspirated platform?

[project86]

Well then Maybe ill reconsider my uber expensive 20B plan for a stock s5 13BT or an 13B-RE and water inject

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by project86

Well then Maybe ill reconsider my uber expensive 20B plan for a stock s5 13BT or an 13B-RE and water inject

I have no shortage of ca$h or ability to make whatever I want and I can only tell you the rocket ship performance of my 13B just puts the 3 rotor into insignificance, especially in a normal RX7 chassis. It's hard to convey to people, the best thing I do is just take people for a drive! and when you see them (some seasoned car people) who want to rip off the door trim handles or are telling you to slow down that they have had enough............ it just speaks volumes more than any Race Logic VBOX3i figures I can post up.

I dreamed of performance on tap like what I have now, it really does just impress you each time you drive it, and unlike people with trailer queens jungle juice mad max fuel drum carrying slaves its totally on tap, any time, any place. And we are talking road car, with a catalyst, quiet, efficient, can drive long distances and not go broke filling it up, and its a rotary More people need to get on it, I don't care if they use my system or my friends on Aquamist where I share my ideas and enthusiasm, its all about the power of water injection on knock limited engine platforms, and ALL regardless of type of fuel are knock limited, does not matter if its a Reno racer at 75psi running a Supercharged merlin on 150 octane or a Rice Racing running on 87 octane we all exploit the power of H2O!

[MaD^94Rx7]

Correct me if I'm wrong Pete but are you running straight water or a 50/50mix with meth?

Henri

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by MaD^94Rx7

Correct me if I'm wrong Pete but are you running straight water or a 50/50mix with meth?

Henri

I run BOTH.

During the last 3 years I have come up with a system and tune up that is interchangeable between WM50 and Water, this covers all operators I have across the world who run in all weather conditions, in varying venues (certain rules) and have all types of set ups (some that tolerate water) and others that do not. Thus I was testing on "typical" inductive ignition and my own SUPER IGNITION systems.

If you look at my web page (under water injection) you will see I have made and engineered cars that make prodigious horsepower along with unrivaled reliability on both specifications.

[project86]

Are you Ohlins coilovers decent for street use?