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RX-7 3rd Gen Specific (1993-2002) RX-7 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections. |
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01-19-2010, 11:37 AM | #1 |
Test Whore - Admin
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I need your old functioning stock coils
If anyone here has been following my dyno adventures, you'll probably recall me saying that Dave and I made huge gains in power with small changes to AF's in the 10-5-11.5 range as we crept up to .8L or 11.7-11.9. We believe this is due to the ignition system being sub-par in terms of spark current and energy. I'm running 4 LS1 coils (D580's) and for a long time they were considered an upgrade from stock and on par with the stock+CDI box setup. Unfortunately I have yet to find any back to back dyno graphs or true data concerning these or other coils. I'm frankly tired of internet legend and ass dyno's and want to put an end to this once and for all. Here's my plan
Over the winter I'm changing a few things on the setup including injectors and coils. Which ever coil I decide on will be the one that we tune with until the L's and turbo's are dialed in, most likely a new Bosch coil. Then the fun begins and the bullshit ends. Over the winter I'll be modd'ing my harness to accept a DTM connector for the ignition setup so we can swap coils and plugs in a matter of minutes while on the dyno. I'll also be building my own spark plug wires and they will all be of the same wire so no one can butt in and say, dude, your wires sucked, that's why X coil didn't do as well, that's what I use and they're AWESOME! There will be none of that at the end of this test. I thought about contacting someone with an occiliscope, but I think real workd results will work better. I plan on testing - Stock 2nd gen coils Stock 3rd gen coils Stock RX8 Coils D580 coils D510 coils and a set of top secret Bosch coils My car will be the test mule and the testing will be done at my expense. I will NOT be giving any road/ass dyno feedback. The only things that I will be able to provide are back to back dyno sheets with in a few minutes of each other, comments on idle quality and starting ease. We'll probably do two runs on each coil just to make sure the results aren't some type of fluke. In other words, actual numbers to despense with internet lore. So, here's what I have/what I need. I have a set of stock 2nd coils, the D580's, and I'll be fronting the coin for the Bosch coils. What I need from you guys are your old stock 3rd gen coils, old stock RX8 coils, and if anyone is feeling generous, OR if you're planning on upgrading to the D585 coils (LS2 Yukon Coils - I've been told by a few people that the D510C coils - latest gen LS7 engine - outperform the D585's) perhaps you can front for the D510C's and I can test those for us. Of course you'll get them back after the test and I can throw in the connector housings, pins and seals that you'll need to do the wiring for fronting the cash for these coils, probably ~$20 worth of electrical cripe. No chinese knockoffs though, Tyler They can be purchased from RockAuto (returnable withen 30 days) for ~$68 each or AC-Direct (don't know thier return policy) for $62 I think... So, who's feeling generous for the greater good of the community?
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-The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. -Angry Motherf*cker Mode ENGAGED- |
01-19-2010, 12:44 PM | #2 |
Test Whore - Admin
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Alright guys,
I've got a set of 13B-REW coils in thier way to me, big thanks to Force13b, still looking for the other coils though. Thanks guys.
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-The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. -Angry Motherf*cker Mode ENGAGED- |
01-19-2010, 02:31 PM | #3 |
crash auto?fix auto
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I have a set of FC ones. If you can't find any in the US around you before you get ready to test, let me know and I'll box em up.
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01-19-2010, 02:42 PM | #4 |
Test Whore - Admin
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Thanks Joe, I've got like 4 sets of FC coils kicking around and we've now got an MSD 6al box as well.
Still looking for some RX8 coils and someone who wants to sport for the D510C's, someone MUST be looking for a proven coil upgrade
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-The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. -Angry Motherf*cker Mode ENGAGED- |