looking to buy wheels need correct offset help

[FlybyRE]

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ead.php?t=1828

I looked at the above link however I am not great with that kinda stuff so I was hoping someone could guide me in the correct direction...

I plan to buy 17" wheels would like to do 8 or 8.5 in the front and 9 or 9.5 in the back... Idea is to get as close to the fender as possible..

looks like the normal size sold is:

for fronts
17x8 can get +38 or +48
17x8.5 can get +27 or +30 or +37

for rears
17x9 can get +24 or +35 or +45
17x9.5 can get only + 35


so which should I use to get the most wheel down, get the wheels as flush as possible.. I don't want to roll the exterior of the fenders,, Dont mind rolling the inner lip if need be..

any help would be nice...

car is 86 rx7 5lug swap

[josh18_2k]

8.5 +27 and 9.5 +35

[FlybyRE]

Ok well I put KYB AGX struts and Tanabe GF's on the FC... So what size tire should I run with that then???

[josh18_2k]

oh.. I know nothing about inside clearance on non coilovers. In back you can run up to 275 with fender roll (no pull). 255 is the safe bet.

235 up front will fit the fender, but i cant speak for the strut.

[FlybyRE]

So in the back I can run a 255 tire on the 9.5 rim and in the fron I should be able to fit a. 225 for sure on the front 8.5's??

[RETed]

The Tanabe GF210 springs are bigger diameter than stock, so it eats away clearances in the inside (up front).
I don't think any of the listed wheels sizes will fit with a 225 wide tire up front.
The 8.5", +27 is your best bet, but you might have to drop down to a 215 wide tires to fit under stock fenders, no rolling.

With an 8.0" wide wheel and stock springs (clearances), a +30 is perfect.
With the bigger Tanabe GF210's, I wouldn't go more than a +25 on a 8.0".
You only mention the 8.5", +27, so that's half inch more width (than the 8.0"), and 2mm pushed in more...way too tight in my book.


-Ted

[FlybyRE]

I could do a 8" wide front wheel and 9" wide rear wheel however then the offests are

8" front either +38 or +48

9" rear either +24 or +35 or +45

I'm just trying to find the best tire rim combo fir my car.. I want it to be as "fit" as I can.. I really don't want to do much modifying.. if its a little inside.. ok a little outside ok.. flush even better..

thx to everyone for info.. any more info is even better

[josh18_2k]

i say go 8.5, and find a cheap/free used tire to test fit. You can always use thin slipon spacers if its too close to the spring

[FlybyRE]

I don't want to use spacers.. not a fan of them..

[josh18_2k]

fine put a 205 on there. guarenteed to fit.

[RETed]

Guess you didn't read my reply...
Oh well.


-Ted

[FlybyRE]

No I did read your reply ted.. I guess I just still don't know exactly what wheel/tire to run I guess in the front because with the wheels I am looking to get I can only get either

17" 8" wide in +38 or +48
Or
17" 8.5" wide in +27, +30 or +37

I wanna do 9.5 in the back if possible but I would be happy with 9" in the back.

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by FlybyRE

So in the back I can run a 255 tire on the 9.5 rim and in the fron I should be able to fit a. 225 for sure on the front 8.5's??

The tires that you are looking to run on those rims are going to be a little stretched. you either need to ditch the spring/shock combo and go for some C/O's or get smaller width rims.

Originally Posted by RETed

The Tanabe GF210 springs are bigger diameter than stock, so it eats away clearances in the inside (up front).
I don't think any of the listed wheels sizes will fit with a 225 wide tire up front.
The 8.5", +27 is your best bet, but you might have to drop down to a 215 wide tires to fit under stock fenders, no rolling.

With an 8.0" wide wheel and stock springs (clearances), a +30 is perfect.
With the bigger Tanabe GF210's, I wouldn't go more than a +25 on a 8.0".
You only mention the 8.5", +27, so that's half inch more width (than the 8.0"), and 2mm pushed in more...way too tight in my book.


-Ted

You're right Ted, so tight that they won't fit. At least if memory is serving properly.

Originally Posted by FlybyRE

I could do a 8" wide front wheel and 9" wide rear wheel however then the offests are

8" front either +38 or +48

9" rear either +24 or +35 or +45

I'm just trying to find the best tire rim combo fir my car.. I want it to be as "fit" as I can.. I really don't want to do much modifying.. if its a little inside.. ok a little outside ok.. flush even better..

thx to everyone for info.. any more info is even better

The ONLY way to get those to fit is by changing your spring/shock combo, or running the rims extending past the fenders both front and rear.

Originally Posted by FlybyRE

No I did read your reply ted.. I guess I just still don't know exactly what wheel/tire to run I guess in the front because with the wheels I am looking to get I can only get either

17" 8" wide in +38 or +48
Or
17" 8.5" wide in +27, +30 or +37

I wanna do 9.5 in the back if possible but I would be happy with 9" in the back.

You CAN'T run those widths with the stock style suspension with the look you want. <- Thats a period, meaning end of statement

FWIW I have a set of rims for sale. I used them while I was on the stock style spring/shock combo. I can get you pictures of how flush they sat (VERY) but I cannot get you pics of how close they sat to the spring/shock, I can tell you though that they were tight.
Rims are TRM Typhoons that are one piece forge cast by Kosei but marketed buy Tire Rack Motorsports (TRM) Sizes are 17x8 +38 R and 17x7+35 F. Tires are 215/40 & 235/45 Yoko A520's with ALOT of tread left over. The wheels are incredibly light, something like 17 or 18 lbs and the tires are awesome. They were going to be my track rim becuase of the weight/strength but now that I'm running C/O's, I went with something else that I got a killer deal on.

Post up if you're interested, price for them is awesome and there really isn't a much lighter/better looking rim out there and like I said, I don't need them anymore, taking up space, and the price will reflect that.

-B

[FlybyRE]

So r u telling me with my suspension setup I can run

17" 7" +35 with 215ls in the front
And
17" 8" +38 with 235' in the rear

If that is correct I would love to see pics of how yours were... I just want them to be flush guys.. they don't have to be that wide.. seriously...

My problem is the narrowest wheel they sell is a 7.5 and it has a +46 offset

Thx again for the replys.. I guess I just figured that I had more room back there then I do

[TitaniumTT]

There's a little more room in the back to be had, not much though. The problem you have is the larger than stock style springs.... I would be curious as to how large larger than stock is. These guys were tight if I remember correctly but did fit and fit flush.... here's a few pics - PM me if you're intersted and I'll fill you in on the price. You're in luck, I was about to post them up here today as well as the evil forum and fleebay, so if you're interested, you got first dibs. Wheels, tires, lugs, special lug tool, and hubcentric adapters as well all for less than 1/2 what I paid



The two most recent pics I can show you of the wheels on the car





Last one gives you a good idea of how flush they really do sit.