My 38K mile 93 SSM build

[luke6813]

Man I hate that for you. I was wondering what was going on with this build. Your car only had 38k on clock right? How did all this happen. Its good you moved your coils back to the stock location. Your mounting location was right next to your steering rack, which is about the worst place you could have put them. Besides you never hear of the FD having a problem burning out coils with the stock set up. I think someone was just trying to sell you something.

How did your turbos go out so quick? Your car is mostly stock right? Unless you run high boost the stock turbos are almost always good for 80 to 100k. I know hind sight is 20/20 but i think your biggest mistake was going that deep into a prestine FD to begin with. That and not having someone with you who is knowledgeable about FDs to help you out.

Well I hope you get it all sorted out and start enjoying your 7 again.

[fire85gslse]

Originally Posted by luke6813

Man I hate that for you. I was wondering what was going on with this build. Your car only had 38k on clock right? How did all this happen. Its good you moved your coils back to the stock location. Your mounting location was right next to your steering rack, which is about the worst place you could have put them. Besides you never hear of the FD having a problem burning out coils with the stock set up. I think someone was just trying to sell you something.

How did your turbos go out so quick? Your car is mostly stock right? Unless you run high boost the stock turbos are almost always good for 80 to 100k. I know hind sight is 20/20 but i think your biggest mistake was going that deep into a prestine FD to begin with. That and not having someone with you who is knowledgeable about FDs to help you out.

Well I hope you get it all sorted out and start enjoying your 7 again.

miles 38K miles stock. As for the coils, it had plenty of clearance from the rack and that was the least of my concerns. It was being under the FPR and the wire going to the TII coil done wrong that I was concerned with.
Turbos were soaked in fuel for 2-3 months as the injector O-rings were missing which filled up the turbos and motor with gas.
It was not a mistake to go into the car, the mistake was not just taking care of my true concern and just enjoying the car.
As for not having some one with me, well I actually did but thats neither here nor there now.

[fire85gslse]

ok, a few lessons learned!

What not to do!!!!!
1. Dont move the coils to the frame rail. Why not you ask? Well FD coils typically dont go out. Not only that but it was a directly under my FPR if it should have ever leaked fuel.
Now if you dont have these issues or concerns then go ahead.
2. Dont upgrade to a T2 coil unless your very careful when splicing the wire.
Mine was upgraded and the person who did the wiring grabbed a small shielding wire and crimped it into the hot lead. Over a short time it melted the wires and shorted them out within seconds of causing an engine fire. I was lucky that it was in the drive way with hood up or I woul dhave never seen the black/green smoke.
3. Dont run the stock belt on a air pump delete kit. It allows the pulley on the kit to barely rub the flexible intake tube causing a hole. make sure to go down to a smaller size.

Over the last 2-3 months I have had to redo all the vacuum lines back to stock to try and trouble shoot all the small issues which should be fixed. Once I get a good set of turbos (looking into rebuilds) on the car I will hopefully be back up and running.

I would be lost with out all the help of Dan and Brian at Tweak It Racing in Smyrna. They have found everything listed above, corrected it and have the car closer to being back on the road soon. Thanks Tweak It guys!!!!!!!!

[diabolical1]

oh boy, what a saga.

glad it "tried" to catch fire as opposed to actually catching fire ... would be sort of ironic given your screen name and all.

in all seriousness though, i'm glad you caught all the issues at this stage - before catastrophe - and it seems to be a matter of time before you'll have it on the road again. good luck, Bro.

[fire85gslse]

Originally Posted by diabolical1

oh boy, what a saga.

glad it "tried" to catch fire as opposed to actually catching fire ... would be sort of ironic given your screen name and all.

in all seriousness though, i'm glad you caught all the issues at this stage - before catastrophe - and it seems to be a matter of time before you'll have it on the road again. good luck, Bro.

wow, have not heard from you in a long time..... since the old carb deal we did way back.
Yes the lack of fire was truly only minutes away and with the car only having 38K miles I would have cried like a big baby. Being a firefighter it's not good to have our own stuff catch fire. Kinda looks suspicious.

[diabolical1]

yeah, it's been a while since we were in touch. i'm glad to see things working out for you. hey, since your turbos were just sitting there when they went bad, they should be rebuildable, no? i mean it should just be a matter of new seals and such, right?

[duval7]

So it was Garfinkle's modified ignition harness that made your car catch on fire. I have a feeling thats how he burnt my FD down too. Its a tragedy that he has such a good reputation on here and people who actually know him would never let him come near there car. I learned this the hard way.

[fire85gslse]

Originally Posted by diabolical1

yeah, it's been a while since we were in touch. i'm glad to see things working out for you. hey, since your turbos were just sitting there when they went bad, they should be rebuildable, no? i mean it should just be a matter of new seals and such, right?

From what I have been told no but now I have a few sets that I hope to use to get one good set built. Looking at BNR's website he can basically pull the inners out and replace.

Originally Posted by duval7

So it was Garfinkle's modified ignition harness that made your car catch on fire. I have a feeling thats how he burnt my FD down too. Its a tragedy that he has such a good reputation on here and people who actually know him would never let him come near there car. I learned this the hard way.

It was the coil harness due to the shielding wire was crimped in with the power wire. Ended up melting and shorted out all of them. After dissecting the harness and looking at each wire it was plain as day.
I would not recommend any moving or swapping to a T2 coil to anyone. Its not worth the chance of a fire and really after talking with several fd builders they say fd coils dont really go out.

[Herblenny]

Originally Posted by fire85gslse

I would not recommend any moving or swapping to a T2 coil to anyone. Its not worth the chance of a fire and really after talking with several fd builders they say fd coils dont really go out.

yeah, I've always told people not to swap to T2 coils.. but there are few that insist T2's are better. I've had no issues with stock FD coils and will never replace them.

[GorillaRE]

Originally Posted by duval7

So it was Garfinkle's modified ignition harness that made your car catch on fire. I have a feeling thats how he burnt my FD down too. Its a tragedy that he has such a good reputation on here and people who actually know him would never let him come near there car. I learned this the hard way.

Did you read ANY of the things this guy wrote? His car had so so many things wrong with his whole damn setup... But no, "DAVID" caused it. Use your brain, show some respect and get a life.

-J

[duval7]

Originally Posted by GorillaRE

Did you read ANY of the things this guy wrote? His car had so so many things wrong with his whole damn setup... But no, "DAVID" caused it. Use your brain, show some respect and get a life.

-J

Yea "this guy" lives about half a mile from me and I have helped him out alot with his car. His car was pristine when he bought it with absolutely nothing wrong with it. Before you go bashing what i said why don't you talk to some Tennessee people about David. There is a reason people have stopped taking there cars to him, thats why we call it being GARFINKLED.

[djmtsu]

Everything that was wrong with it happened while it was in David's possession. From what I am told.

So he is within his rights to call him out.

[sbrian2]

[fire85gslse]

well got some new turbo's, getting it tuned and hope to have to back soon.
cant wait...... been too long and too much extra money

[fire85gslse]

Turbo's on, car is tuned with spring pressure (7psi) right now and made almost 300 at the rear. Should be interesting once the boost is up and car is tweaked.

Im enjoying Putting miles on her. About the crack 40K and that will be a day I might cry....... She has been in the 30's for a long time and for a 93 to have under 40K it is clean and what I have wanted since I first saw it in 93.