FC3S Murray's never ending build.

[calicrewchief]

You get those wheels mounted yet? Pics!

[RETed]

The FK452's are the old Falken GR-beta's?
I think they are...
These are old tech and don't expect top-notch dry performance out of them.
The harder rubber should get your good mileage though, but rubber softness (and thus performance) is inversely proportional to mileage.
There's a lot better stuff out there, but I'm sure you got a really good price on these.

These can't hold a candle to the RT615's, since the RT615's are almost a (dry) competition tire.

The siping should give you great rain performance though.


-Ted

[FC3S Murray]

Originally Posted by calicrewchief

You get those wheels mounted yet? Pics!

Soon man..very soon. Just waiting on 1 center face to come back from powder coating.

don't expect top-notch dry performance out of them.
The harder rubber should get your good mileage though, but rubber softness (and thus performance) is inversely proportional to mileage.

That is the exact reason I bought them. I want some life out of these. As for grip I have read numerous reviews that said these out perform most UHP tires to include the BFGoodrich G-force sports, Nitto NT555's, Bridgestone Potenza Grids(crazy but found many reviews stating this) and Copper Zeon 2XS.

The only UHP tire that compared that I was up in the air with was the Yokohoma S.Drives....Falkens were cheaper at this outlet I went through so that made a my mind considering I "saved" 120.00.

I HOPE these FK452's do not dissapoint, if they do TRUST me evryone will hear about it.

I really wanted some Yokohoma ADVAN Neova AD08 but they were very very pricey.

[FC3S Murray]

Originally Posted by RETed

The FK452's are the old Falken GR-beta's?
I think they are...


-Ted

Actually these are the replcement for the old FK-451's. I guess they have came a long way since the 451's.

[WE3RX7]

I was going back through your thread and didn't see if you posted it, but what size are your equips? I 17x? and what offset, just curious since I'm shopping wheels right now.

[need RX7]

I was in Discount Tire today with a friend, getting tires for his pimp-mobile (84 Park Avenue), and I overheard the guy behind the counter recommend the FK452s to someone. It reminded me of this thread, and thus caused me to go off on an incredibly long tangent describing how much I like Work Equips . Looking forward to a review on those, I'm thinking about getting some myself. I have pretty much the same criteria as you; something that performs well, but still lasts long enough to be practical and doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Still lovin' the Equips btw .

[FC3S Murray]

Originally Posted by WE3RX7

I was going back through your thread and didn't see if you posted it, but what size are your equips? I 17x? and what offset, just curious since I'm shopping wheels right now.

17x8 +29 17x9 +28, I wuld have liked +35 for a little more lip but these have plenty and will fit "hella flush"

I was in Discount Tire today with a friend, getting tires for his pimp-mobile (84 Park Avenue), and I overheard the guy behind the counter recommend the FK452s to someone. It reminded me of this thread, and thus caused me to go off on an incredibly long tangent describing how much I like Work Equips . Looking forward to a review on those, I'm thinking about getting some myself. I have pretty much the same criteria as you; something that performs well, but still lasts long enough to be practical and doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Still lovin' the Equips btw .

Thank buddy! I hope they perfrom well and cool thing is once i get my final break-in mileage on my engine my tires will be broke in too

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray

17x8 +29 17x9 +28, I wuld have liked +35 for a little more lip but these have plenty and will fit "hella flush"

Higher number offset will result in a slightly less lip, but we're only talking about a few mm here. I'm running the x8 +35 and x9 +35 and they are a little more recessed in the wells (which is why I didn't have to roll any fenders) and they have a little less lip to them, but that's also kinda dependant on the spoke design as well.

I kinda want to try some small spacers to see what happens as they could be a little more flush. In reality though I'm gonna hold off until I can sport for some 17x8.5 and 9.5.

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray

once i get my final break-in mileage on my engine my tires will be broke in too

Sean, we need to talk about this

[FC3S Murray]

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Higher number offset will result in a slightly less lip, but we're only talking about a few mm here.

hmm that is strange. I was looking at rotarybeat's Equips and he runs +35 and his have more lip. My works must have a slightly different lip design. His center caps are a different style as well. WORK must have did some changes through the years with the wheel type.

Sean, we need to talk about this

I know I know....if it wasn't for that damn V-Band issue of mine I would be damn near there. That put me down for the last month of nice weather....then I HAD to tinker with my bushings and wheels lol

I think it worked out since WOT tuning would have blowed on new tires with no break in

[WE3RX7]

I'm so impatient for these wheels right now, lol...

Looking forward to seeing them finished up and on the car!

[FC3S Murray]

Originally Posted by WE3RX7

I'm so impatient for these wheels right now, lol...

Looking forward to seeing them finished up and on the car!

YOU ARE!? HELL I am going crazy!!! I am assembling them all tomorrow night then from there all I need to do is order my BC coilovers once the tax return gets in by mid Feb. I hate being patient and responsible....I could just buy the fuckers now but I like my penis attached to my body...NOT cut-off and in my wife's hand

If this fucking 20,000'' of snow doesn't melt the only pics you guys will get are in-garage shots.

[WE3RX7]

Ha - understandable. We keep getting hit by snow too, its almost like mother nature doesn't want virginia to have weekends... snows on Friday and saturday enough to jack up your sunday and monday as well. Calling for more tomorrow and again this weekend. My garage is a MESS right now too so I can only have the FC in, the RX8 is getting frozen!


So we wont see pics of it on the car until mid/late Feb now? damn.....

[FC3S Murray]

Originally Posted by WE3RX7

So we wont see pics of it on the car until mid/late Feb now? damn.....

Yep.......it blows but it will be here in no time

[RETed]

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray

That is the exact reason I bought them. I want some life out of these. As for grip I have read numerous reviews that said these out perform most UHP tires to include the BFGoodrich G-force sports, Nitto NT555's, Bridgestone Potenza Grids(crazy but found many reviews stating this) and Copper Zeon 2XS.

Have zero experience with the B.F. Goodrich stuff, as the only I have personally run was 1st gen Comp T/A's a LONG time ago...

The Nitto NT-555's are CRAP.
Dunno if you know this, but Nitto is the sister company of Toyo.
Toyo "hands down" all their old or second-tier technology to Nitto.
The "NT-555R" is an exception, as these are the old Nitto drag radials - same compound as the Toyo RA-1's.
I have no experience with the new NT-01's.

The Grid's are CRAP.
I've had these, and they are disappointing.
Looking at the prices in Japan, these are not top-tier tires.

Zero experience with Cooper and don't intend to try anything American made anytime soon...

Now, don't take my words personally.
I try to run the best tires on my cars.
I've run Toyo RA-1's and currently have Bridgestone S-03 Pole Positions.
I have a set of Yokohama Advan AD-07's in my room waiting to be mounted.
This gives you an idea of what I think are "good" tires.
All of these are either competition tires or top-tire tires at one time.

Other tires I have direct experience in the past...
Bridgestone RE-71's - best at the time, but super soft compound
Dunlop SP-8000's - liked them a lot for the price and dry performance, but not the best
Yokohama AVS intermediates - didn't care too much for them, but a lot of other people did; I like the Dunlop SP-8000's as a slight edge of the AVSi's
(Above are all discontinued.)
Micheline Pilot Sport SX - nice tire but really expensive!


-Ted

[RETed]

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray

hmm that is strange. I was looking at rotarybeat's Equips and he runs +35 and his have more lip. My works must have a slightly different lip design. His center caps are a different style as well. WORK must have did some changes through the years with the wheel type.

TTT is right - lower the number should give you more lip.

The only other thing I can think of is that one of you is running the "DDC" lip design?
Work offered the DDC lip back then - it's a funky design that countersunk the bolts into a curved outer lip.
The advantages of the DDC lip is that it was stronger, but it takes away from the deep-lip look.


-Ted