Third gen motor in a gsl-se - Page 2

Garfinkles Motor Works · 11-12-2009, 06:32 PM

Today I pulled the motor and tranny out to cut out the stock tranny mounts in the tunnel and sealed the gap between the cut and inner tunnel sheet metal. Now the motor /tranny can go father back in the frame than before .Next time I work on it I will pull off the oil pan and cut and section out the rear of the pan that will be sitting above the steering cross link. Doing this will allow the motor to sit lower in the car for better CG . I will be putting in my WORLD FAMOUS oil pan brace . I have already cut a set of my nylon motor mounts down in thickness so the sub frame will have good ground clearence .The mounts that will hold the sub frame/ motor mount is welded in place .I had a pro come to the shop and do that for me .An important part to be sure.The next job will be to make the sub frame and the new tranny mount .The designs are in my head and should work out very well .Then the motor will be bolted in .

Garfinkles Motor Works · 11-16-2009, 09:42 PM

Today I reworked the oil pan so the motor will sit lower in the frame and clear the steering link .Tomorrow I will finish it and take some pictures .

David Jerome · 11-17-2009, 10:55 AM

Dave, sorry I didnt call you back. Work has me traveling all over the country. Seems like a good deal from the info you left on my voicemail.

Garfinkles Motor Works · 11-17-2009, 08:39 PM

Today I finished the pan .I can now mount the motor farther to the rear and lower in the frame .I plan to use a larger oilcooler than stock to make up for the loss of volume in the pan .I made the pictures on a spare motor in storage then mounted it to the motor with The Right Stuff and my Garfinkle oil pan brace . The oil pickup tube was shortened 1 inch and the scrap was used to reinforce the joint .That way nobody will say that will break apart .Next is making the subframe for the motormounts to sit on and the tranny mount. When that is done any one could finish this project to the power level they want .I will work on it again in a week or so ,I need to work on a 3rd gen this week end .

proz07 · 11-19-2009, 12:11 AM

have you thought of putting a can of sorts or accumulator in line to the cooler post thermostat to make up for the lose of oil? personally i wouldnt feel good about that loss of oil especially in a rotary unless your big cooler is the size of a radiator to make up the volume loss.

my 2c
z

is that pickup and pan brazed?!......

Garfinkles Motor Works · 11-19-2009, 05:46 AM

If I finish the car then the cooler will be big enough to do the job .The pick up will be well covered and not suck air .The oil level will be higher around the housings to pull out heat as well .My car has 17 tubes through the oil pan for cooling and the oil level is higher on it with good results .The pan is brazed .I have been making motorcycle tanks and oil tanks for years by brazing them, my 94 has a oil tank in it that is brazed .

Monkman33 · 11-26-2009, 01:07 PM

Brazing is actually a very effective way of making a good seal between two thin metals. Especially if you have a talented brazer. They use brazing on low to medium pressure systems, so I would be very confident that it can hold up to gravity.

Garfinkles Motor Works · 12-05-2009, 11:04 PM

Today I put in the new rear shocks and the front and rear lowering springs .The subframe/motormount is about finished .After that is done I will make the tranny mount .

11-19-2009, 12:11 AM	#5
proz07 Needing a new tow rig. Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: AR Posts: 245 Rep Power: 18	have you thought of putting a can of sorts or accumulator in line to the cooler post thermostat to make up for the lose of oil? personally i wouldnt feel good about that loss of oil especially in a rotary unless your big cooler is the size of a radiator to make up the volume loss. my 2c z is that pickup and pan brazed?!...... Last edited by proz07; 11-19-2009 at 12:13 AM.

11-19-2009, 05:46 AM	#6
Garfinkles Motor Works RCC Contributor Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 535 Rep Power: 18	If I finish the car then the cooler will be big enough to do the job .The pick up will be well covered and not suck air .The oil level will be higher around the housings to pull out heat as well .My car has 17 tubes through the oil pan for cooling and the oil level is higher on it with good results .The pan is brazed .I have been making motorcycle tanks and oil tanks for years by brazing them, my 94 has a oil tank in it that is brazed . Last edited by Garfinkles Motor Works; 11-29-2009 at 05:33 AM. Reason: spelling

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11-12-2009, 06:32 PM	#1
Garfinkles Motor Works RCC Contributor Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 535 Rep Power: 18	Today I pulled the motor and tranny out to cut out the stock tranny mounts in the tunnel and sealed the gap between the cut and inner tunnel sheet metal. Now the motor /tranny can go father back in the frame than before .Next time I work on it I will pull off the oil pan and cut and section out the rear of the pan that will be sitting above the steering cross link. Doing this will allow the motor to sit lower in the car for better CG . I will be putting in my WORLD FAMOUS oil pan brace . I have already cut a set of my nylon motor mounts down in thickness so the sub frame will have good ground clearence .The mounts that will hold the sub frame/ motor mount is welded in place .I had a pro come to the shop and do that for me .An important part to be sure.The next job will be to make the sub frame and the new tranny mount .The designs are in my head and should work out very well .Then the motor will be bolted in .

11-16-2009, 09:42 PM	#2
Garfinkles Motor Works RCC Contributor Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 535 Rep Power: 18	Today I reworked the oil pan so the motor will sit lower in the frame and clear the steering link .Tomorrow I will finish it and take some pictures .

11-17-2009, 10:55 AM	#3
David Jerome RCC Contributor Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 713 Rep Power: 18	Dave, sorry I didnt call you back. Work has me traveling all over the country. Seems like a good deal from the info you left on my voicemail.

11-26-2009, 01:07 PM	#7
Monkman33 Still Building my FD Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pasco, WA Posts: 255 Rep Power: 17	Brazing is actually a very effective way of making a good seal between two thin metals. Especially if you have a talented brazer. They use brazing on low to medium pressure systems, so I would be very confident that it can hold up to gravity.

12-05-2009, 11:04 PM	#8
Garfinkles Motor Works RCC Contributor Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 535 Rep Power: 18	Today I put in the new rear shocks and the front and rear lowering springs .The subframe/motormount is about finished .After that is done I will make the tranny mount .