replaced shifter spring, spring doesnt spring - Page 2

omega · 10-12-2013, 10:14 PM

Check the ball and spring to see if there is a broken spring. Its the ones that are held in by a sleeved bolt. That helps with the return..

FerociousP · 10-14-2013, 05:20 PM

IIRC, the lower ball on an s5 shifter is small and uses a nylon bushing in the extension arm cup.

http://www.mazdatrix.com/g4.htm

S4 shifters have a larger lower ball and uses no bushing. Is there play where the lower ball and cup interact?

It could be that when moving over to 1-2, there isn't much force on the spring as there is play between the lower ball and the cup.

When you move over to 5-6, the tension is on the coil spring, and you still get rebound..

jahjahsqc · 10-15-2013, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FerociousP

IIRC, the lower ball on an s5 shifter is small and uses a nylon bushing in the extension arm cup.

http://www.mazdatrix.com/g4.htm

S4 shifters have a larger lower ball and uses no bushing. Is there play where the lower ball and cup interact?

It could be that when moving over to 1-2, there isn't much force on the spring as there is play between the lower ball and the cup.

When you move over to 5-6, the tension is on the coil spring, and you still get rebound..

Thats a good thought. I never thought about that. I wish I had an original S4 shifter to compare the two.

I've got everything back together right now with the S5 shifter, and I hit the shifter bushings with a little silicone spray and with the slightest amount of effort it springs back back from the 1/2 gate. Good enough for me for right now.

omega · 10-23-2013, 10:44 AM

So did you check the spring tension on the side spring and ball ?

jahjahsqc · 10-23-2013, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omega

So did you check the spring tension on the side spring and ball ?

You mean that spring brings the shifter back from the 5/R gate? Yes it works fine. I don't have a problem with the RH gate, just the LH gate.

omega · 10-24-2013, 07:18 PM

Also did you put gear fluid in ? Just asking because it was not mentioned. If not, only fill it halfway .

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10-12-2013, 10:14 PM	#16
omega The new Sheriff in town.. Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	Check the ball and spring to see if there is a broken spring. Its the ones that are held in by a sleeved bolt. That helps with the return..

10-23-2013, 10:44 AM	#19
omega The new Sheriff in town.. Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	So did you check the spring tension on the side spring and ball ?

10-24-2013, 07:18 PM	#21
omega The new Sheriff in town.. Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	Also did you put gear fluid in ? Just asking because it was not mentioned. If not, only fill it halfway .