The starter worked this morning, now it doesn't.

[classicauto]

Start starter hunting

BTW, I want to steal your dog.

EDIT: Just noticed J-rat's terminal jumping suggestion. Forgot about that, give it a shot.

[$100T2]

Originally Posted by J-Rat

Did you verify the 12 V starting signal is coming down the wire to the solenoid? Also, you can use the screwdriver trick to jumper the Main 12v terminals to see if it spins the starter

No, I haven't done either of those.

I actually have no idea how to. Let me go hunt for a writeup.

EDIT: Could it be a bad switch on the clutch? How can I check that?

[85rx-7gsl-se]

Originally Posted by J-Rat

Did you verify the 12 V starting signal is coming down the wire to the solenoid? Also, you can use the screwdriver trick to jumper the Main 12v terminals to see if it spins the starter

Thats what I suggested too....I have had that wire vibrate off several times before.

[$100T2]

Here's some more pics.

Unless you guys see something seriously amiss, I'm going to go ahead and order a new starter.

[My5ABaby]

Things look a bit rusty under there. Maybe you're just not getting a good connection.

[classicauto]

*Looks* alright............I'd pull that main positive off the large post and sand up both sides of the contact before removing it though just in case.

Also, might wanna go ahead and bolt that little black resistor box back down though. Theres a few in the engine bay, ones for your oil pressure guage.

[$100T2]

I'll try taking the whole starter off and cleaning everything up, then bolt it back on.

What little black resistor box???

[classicauto]

This little baby:



It just needs to be grounded somewhere. I believe this one was under the slave cylinder originally.

[Max777]

I just replaced my old, worn out starter wit a new one, and that peice /\ fit on a metal tab on both starters. Was it loose like that the WHOLE time?

[$100T2]

I don't know if it was loose like that or not... Today was the first time I've been under the car.

[Max777]

My friends prelude did that btw. His starter clicked, but didnt move. I gave it a tap, then the ger spun, but it was still too weak to move the engine over. We overnighted a new one, dropped it in, and the car fired up right away. Dunno how broke you are, but $90 for a reman starter is a good investment, I think.

[$100T2]

Not broke at all, just having issues with all three vehicles at the moment. It's more of an issue of "which do I deal with first" than money.

[RETed]

Originally Posted by classicauto

First of all, that black box thingy is a damping capacitor for the oil pressure gauge.
It's not going to affect anything that has to do with the starter.
Just connect that to ANY ground.
For a Turbo II, it's bolted down by one of the bolts on the clutch slave cylinder.

WHAT SCARES ME THE MOST IS THE FACT THAT THE MAIN ENGINE GROUND IS NOT CONNECTED!!!
Look BEHIND the black box in that pic - see the big ring terminal?
That's the main engine ground connection that is usually secured by the long starter bolt!
This NEEDS to be securely connected, of your engine isn't properly grounded.
The starter grounds through the engine block - no engine ground; starter doesn't work well - hell, a LOT of stuff won't work well.
We're talking the main ECU grounds are on the engine, as are how the spark plugs fire through the engine block too.

Some of the pics confuse me...
In another pic, it looks like the water temp connector (yellow wire with female bullet connector) is routed all that way to the starter...
How did you manage that?


-Ted

[$100T2]

I didn't do any of it... This is how the car came to me. I will try to get the car all the way up in the air today to give you guys some really good pics, so we can figure out what goes where.

[classicauto]

Good idea.

Ted - didn't even see it. Its a tough point of view to distinguish things