Using S5 non-turbo harness as S5 TII harness

FerociousP · 03-31-2009, 06:41 PM

I remember seeing a write-up on what to change/add (possibly on the evil forum) but I can't seem to find it. I've been running a S5/ na harness as a TII harnes with no emissions, but I am about to get a motor that has emissions still intact and I figured I might as well leave it since I have to pass smog. What modifications need to be done to the n/a harness to have it handle a full TII system? (I can de-pin or solder or anything needed).

Someone feel free to make a FAQ on this as it will save people mula.

djmtsu · 04-01-2009, 11:34 AM

You can do it!

FerociousP · 04-01-2009, 08:57 PM

bueler? bueler?

RETed · 04-03-2009, 07:24 AM

I've done this a LONG time ago...
Basically it's plug-n-play.
Don't worry about the boost solenoid, since this ends up being either the VDI or some extra (emissions?) solenoid on the NA harness...
No need to repin.

-Ted

sen2two · 04-03-2009, 07:54 AM

i have it on my car. its simple. just plug everything in. no modification to get it running. but mine does not have emissions, so im not to sure there.

FerociousP · 04-03-2009, 11:41 AM

sen2two, that's what I did with my other car, which has no emissions... IIRC Lander's blue car is using a n/a harness with full emissions..

Ted,

Will the colors on the connector match up or will I need a wiring diagram? I guess I can do the research myself... but what I needed to know is if I needed to start looking for a Turbo harness or not since the motor is going in the car on the 11th.

Thanks for the info.

Whizbang · 04-03-2009, 04:04 PM

the differences involved should be simple enough that just using an NA harness should get things done. Just a little more of your time.

RETed · 04-04-2009, 05:00 AM

The colors of the connectors should be the same...
The extra should be the VDI (tan or gray or something like that).

-Ted

Max777 · 04-05-2009, 01:42 PM

what about the S5 turbo knock sensor? I thought that the turbo models have this, but the N/A does not?

Is there an unused connector on the N/A harness that plugs in to it?

FerociousP · 04-05-2009, 09:49 PM

from what I've been told the knock sensor will not compensate fast enough to be of any use and to not worry about hooking it up. My 6-port turbo with n/a harness (no emissions) ran that way fine. (until low oil pressure)

RETed · 04-06-2009, 03:00 PM

Stock knock sensor can be thrown away.
The stock ECU ignores it after 4kRPM.
You can verify this with the FSM.

-Ted

Max777 · 04-06-2009, 04:07 PM

Ah, very valuable piece of info to know!

fire85gslse · 04-06-2009, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djmtsu

You can do it!

All night long.........

Flooder · 04-06-2009, 07:52 PM

So seeing that you can use an S5 na harness as an s5 TII harness, is it possible to run an S4 TII motor on an S5 TII ecu/s5 na harness?

fire85gslse · 04-06-2009, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flooder

So seeing that you can use an S5 na harness as an s5 TII harness, is it possible to run an S4 TII motor on an S5 TII ecu/s5 na harness?

Yes, if your sing just the S4 TII block with all the S5 accessories.
Chad

03-31-2009, 06:41 PM	#1
FerociousP I-had-a-bad-experience... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: M'boro iTrader: (2) Posts: 1,046 Rep Power: 18	Using S5 non-turbo harness as S5 TII harness I remember seeing a write-up on what to change/add (possibly on the evil forum) but I can't seem to find it. I've been running a S5/ na harness as a TII harnes with no emissions, but I am about to get a motor that has emissions still intact and I figured I might as well leave it since I have to pass smog. What modifications need to be done to the n/a harness to have it handle a full TII system? (I can de-pin or solder or anything needed). Someone feel free to make a FAQ on this as it will save people mula. __________________ '15 Juke Nismo '06 MX-5 GT SOLD '04 S Silver RX-8 GT Track Day Use SOLD '90 Black TII vert w/ Sprint RE stock port/turbo DD dyno (242.6whp@5500rpm @12psi 8psi@redline) and (250ftlbtq@4800rpm @13psi) SOLD '89 GTUs 6p TII SOLD, '87 sport SOLD, '79 SA stock SOLD '91 B2600i 4x4 w/ Rx-8 LSD SOLD

04-01-2009, 11:34 AM	#2
djmtsu My minds tellin' me no... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN iTrader: (10) Posts: 4,043 Rep Power: 21	You can do it! __________________ 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 2003 Toyota Tundra TRD 2015 Toyota 4Runner SR5

04-01-2009, 08:57 PM	#3
FerociousP I-had-a-bad-experience... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: M'boro iTrader: (2) Posts: 1,046 Rep Power: 18	bueler? bueler? __________________ '15 Juke Nismo '06 MX-5 GT SOLD '04 S Silver RX-8 GT Track Day Use SOLD '90 Black TII vert w/ Sprint RE stock port/turbo DD dyno (242.6whp@5500rpm @12psi 8psi@redline) and (250ftlbtq@4800rpm @13psi) SOLD '89 GTUs 6p TII SOLD, '87 sport SOLD, '79 SA stock SOLD '91 B2600i 4x4 w/ Rx-8 LSD SOLD

04-03-2009, 07:54 AM	#5
sen2two KTEC Join Date: Jan 2009 iTrader: (2) Posts: 642 Rep Power: 0	i have it on my car. its simple. just plug everything in. no modification to get it running. but mine does not have emissions, so im not to sure there. __________________ what I have: 1985 Gs:12a All motor Drag car - 1973 Rx2: Play car What I had: 93 Touring: TRADED - 91 Coupe: TRADED - 90 GTU: RHD - 88 10AE: SOLD - 87 Base: SOLD - 86 Base: SOLD - 1985 GSLSE - 85 Gsl: SOLD - 80 Gs: TRADED - 1972 Rx2

04-03-2009, 11:41 AM	#6
FerociousP I-had-a-bad-experience... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: M'boro iTrader: (2) Posts: 1,046 Rep Power: 18	sen2two, that's what I did with my other car, which has no emissions... IIRC Lander's blue car is using a n/a harness with full emissions.. Ted, Will the colors on the connector match up or will I need a wiring diagram? I guess I can do the research myself... but what I needed to know is if I needed to start looking for a Turbo harness or not since the motor is going in the car on the 11th. Thanks for the info. __________________ '15 Juke Nismo '06 MX-5 GT SOLD '04 S Silver RX-8 GT Track Day Use SOLD '90 Black TII vert w/ Sprint RE stock port/turbo DD dyno (242.6whp@5500rpm @12psi 8psi@redline) and (250ftlbtq@4800rpm @13psi) SOLD '89 GTUs 6p TII SOLD, '87 sport SOLD, '79 SA stock SOLD '91 B2600i 4x4 w/ Rx-8 LSD SOLD

04-03-2009, 04:04 PM	#7
Whizbang Respecognize! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp iTrader: (5) Posts: 3,190 Rep Power: 20	the differences involved should be simple enough that just using an NA harness should get things done. Just a little more of your time. __________________ For current updates and event coverage check out Follow on Twitter! @WhizbangRally Whizbang Rally's Webpage \| Facebook

04-05-2009, 01:42 PM	#9
Max777 Pirate Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central IL iTrader: (5) Posts: 1,323 Rep Power: 18	what about the S5 turbo knock sensor? I thought that the turbo models have this, but the N/A does not? Is there an unused connector on the N/A harness that plugs in to it? __________________ Rotaries:They are NOT that complicated!

04-05-2009, 09:49 PM	#10
FerociousP I-had-a-bad-experience... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: M'boro iTrader: (2) Posts: 1,046 Rep Power: 18	from what I've been told the knock sensor will not compensate fast enough to be of any use and to not worry about hooking it up. My 6-port turbo with n/a harness (no emissions) ran that way fine. (until low oil pressure) __________________ '15 Juke Nismo '06 MX-5 GT SOLD '04 S Silver RX-8 GT Track Day Use SOLD '90 Black TII vert w/ Sprint RE stock port/turbo DD dyno (242.6whp@5500rpm @12psi 8psi@redline) and (250ftlbtq@4800rpm @13psi) SOLD '89 GTUs 6p TII SOLD, '87 sport SOLD, '79 SA stock SOLD '91 B2600i 4x4 w/ Rx-8 LSD SOLD

04-06-2009, 04:07 PM	#12
Max777 Pirate Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central IL iTrader: (5) Posts: 1,323 Rep Power: 18	Ah, very valuable piece of info to know! __________________ Rotaries:They are NOT that complicated!

04-06-2009, 07:52 PM	#14
Flooder Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Tucson, Arizona iTrader: (0) Posts: 321 Rep Power: 17	So seeing that you can use an S5 na harness as an s5 TII harness, is it possible to run an S4 TII motor on an S5 TII ecu/s5 na harness? __________________ AZRX7.COM Red 1991 A-package(SOLD) Red 1990 GXL(SOLD) White 1989 GTUs(DEAD) Red 1988 Turbo II(DD) Black 1988 Turbo II(SOLD) Rebuilt and street ported motor, Garrett T04E Turbo, 3" Turbo Inlet Duct/AEM Dry Flow Filter, Your Mom's MBC, Blitz FMIC, 890cc and 1000cc injectors, Tomei FPR, Walbro, Rtek 2.1 ECU, Taurus E-Fan, Turbonetics BOV, 3" Motoria/Corksport Turbo Back Exhaust, Emissions Removed, Greddy Boost Gauge, Megan Racing Water Temp Gauge, 5one5 Triple Gauge Pod, AEM Uego, GP Sports Body Kit, Fiber Images CF Hood, S5 Seats, S5 Tails, S5 Alt, Dual Alt Pulley, D2 Coilovers, NRG Quick Release, Shook Motorsports Radiator, HID's, AN/Steel Braided Oil Cooler Lines, SUPER JDM TYTE DRIFT BUTTON www.DensetsuMotorsports.com www.AZRX7.Com www.FloodersAdventure.com

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