17x9+20 with no stretch?

[josh18_2k]

Originally Posted by classicauto

I'm still certain they don't fit without a stretched tire. I've had 17x9 +24 up front before on my old N/A and needed good maount of pull for 245's. There's no way you could go another 4mm out and not need a pull, or a stretch, to fit.

The wheels themselves will clear things, but you won't get proper width tires on them without rubbing.

Right?

i think this is a real source of confusion/debate in the whole 'wheel fitment' thing. i think what people are really after is tire fitment, but most people dont seem to realize that. will a 17x9 +24 wheel fit up front? the true question here is "will the wheel contact my suspension." if not, the wheel fits. the next (seperate) question is "will XXX tire fit?" its really not the same question.

as you stated, 245's on a 24mm offset take some work to fit. doesnt matter how wide the wheel is, the tire clearance doesnt change. if you're stretching the 245 over a an 11" wheel, or ballooning it onto a 7, the tire/fender fitment is the same.

people seem to forget (or not realzie) that TIRE fitment is all about offset. wheel width really doesnt have anything to do with it. if dude wants to run a 255 up front, theres an answer for that. 215s? a different answer.

in this case, the OP asked about a wheel with no mention of a tire. so technically, Ian is not incorrect. if the question was about a tire size, then his post would have been irrelevant. ian posted a pic of a 17x9 +20 wheel on his car- it obviously doesnt contact his suspension, and if it pokes out too much for ssomeone's tastes, they can tell just by looking at it. theres really no reason for debate beyond that. it would be another story if someone is posting that a wheel fits without any sort of reference (i could easily run around telling people that a 17x10 +55 wheel fits an FC)

i think i might be rambling by this point (wtf am i doing online during thanksgiving anyway lol)