derling bushings

morondongon · 05-04-2009, 12:13 AM

Sup guys?! Am in need of some new bushings and as looking into the super pro but unfortunately they don't make them for the FC. I have been browsing and have come across these bushings made by Derling. My question is has anyone tried them on their car? Here's the link...
http://www.mazdatrix.com/rmounts.htm

moremazda · 05-04-2009, 08:26 AM

If it's a street car stick with the polyurethane bushings. The suspension system is bombarded with vibrations while the car is moving. The stock bushings are designed to reduce those vibrations a significant amount. Polyurethane transmits more vibration to the chassis but still dampens out the "hard" vibrations, or the damaging vibrations. Delrin on the other hand begins to transmit some of those more damaging vibrations to the chassis; which if in use on a street car can, and most likely will, lead to stress cracks at the pickup points and eventually mount failure. Delrin bushings should be kept to the race cars, or the street cars that aren't really street cars.

Ryan

vex · 05-04-2009, 11:17 AM

You can however use Delrin bushings on the subframe. It helps keep wheel hop down and doesn't transmit (perceived) vibrations to the chassis.

morondongon · 05-04-2009, 12:35 PM

My car is for street, not a daily driver. My bushings are in pretty bad shape and need to replace them, so i would like to get something better, that will increase the performance of my 7. I don't want my ride to be too rough either... What do you guys use for after market?

vex · 05-04-2009, 12:37 PM

Poly bushings. Energy suspension sells a master kit which works quite well.

firzen · 05-04-2009, 05:02 PM

If your old bushings are shot, even a fresh set of the stock bushings would still be an upgrade. Since you're going to be driving on the street, you ought to consider the quality of the roads in your area before you buy the 'upgraded' bushings. Harder bushings in general mean a harder (read: harsher) ride.

morondongon · 05-04-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by firzen

you ought to consider the quality of the roads in your area before you buy the 'upgraded' bushings. Harder bushings in general mean a harder (read: harsher) ride.

I live in the NJ/NY our roads suck azz!!! there are more pod holes in any NYC street than any other street in the US (maybe except PR)

luckly i don't drive my 7 daily and try to avoid NYC whenever i go for a drive

Jersey roads are avarage... I don't want bushings that i'm going to be able to feel every part of the engine, trans and diff, or put stress on the chasi of the car... I'll look into the energy suspension, but i was told that their products are not of good quality...

morondongon · 05-04-2009, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vex

Poly bushings. Energy suspension sells a master kit which works quite well.

have you used that kit, i was told that their quality is not good?

TehMonkay · 05-04-2009, 08:03 PM

Mazdaspeed bushings, mazdatrix sells them i think, maybe corksport.

morondongon · 05-04-2009, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TehMonkay

Mazdaspeed bushings, mazdatrix sells them i think, maybe corksport.

Neither one has them, if you know of a site let me know... I'm going to ask kg parts see what they carry...

vex · 05-04-2009, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by morondongon

have you used that kit, i was told that their quality is not good?

Yes I've used them, as have a majority of owners from what I can tell. The ride is a little stiffer, but compared to worn out bushings they're amazing. Have not had any problems with them what so ever.

NoDOHC · 05-05-2009, 10:28 PM

I have energy suspension bushing on the '91 and will soon be installing another set in the '86. I like them and think they perform well (although neither of these is a race car).

05-04-2009, 12:13 AM	#1
morondongon The Newbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NJ iTrader: (0) Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	derling bushings Sup guys?! Am in need of some new bushings and as looking into the super pro but unfortunately they don't make them for the FC. I have been browsing and have come across these bushings made by Derling. My question is has anyone tried them on their car? Here's the link... http://www.mazdatrix.com/rmounts.htm __________________ Love driving my 7

05-04-2009, 11:17 AM	#3
vex RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Influx. iTrader: (6) Posts: 2,113 Rep Power: 19	You can however use Delrin bushings on the subframe. It helps keep wheel hop down and doesn't transmit (perceived) vibrations to the chassis. __________________ The Official FC Radiator Thread My Project Thread: Cerberus CCVT Virginia Rotary Group

05-04-2009, 12:35 PM	#4
morondongon The Newbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NJ iTrader: (0) Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	My car is for street, not a daily driver. My bushings are in pretty bad shape and need to replace them, so i would like to get something better, that will increase the performance of my 7. I don't want my ride to be too rough either... What do you guys use for after market? __________________ Love driving my 7

05-04-2009, 12:37 PM	#5
vex RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Influx. iTrader: (6) Posts: 2,113 Rep Power: 19	Poly bushings. Energy suspension sells a master kit which works quite well. __________________ The Official FC Radiator Thread My Project Thread: Cerberus CCVT Virginia Rotary Group

05-04-2009, 08:03 PM	#9
TehMonkay Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Louisville, KY iTrader: (0) Posts: 302 Rep Power: 17	Mazdaspeed bushings, mazdatrix sells them i think, maybe corksport. __________________ My car blows up everytime I start it, it's rotary

05-04-2009, 08:26 AM	#2
moremazda shookmotorsports.com Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Rockford, IL iTrader: (1) Posts: 108 Rep Power: 17	If it's a street car stick with the polyurethane bushings. The suspension system is bombarded with vibrations while the car is moving. The stock bushings are designed to reduce those vibrations a significant amount. Polyurethane transmits more vibration to the chassis but still dampens out the "hard" vibrations, or the damaging vibrations. Delrin on the other hand begins to transmit some of those more damaging vibrations to the chassis; which if in use on a street car can, and most likely will, lead to stress cracks at the pickup points and eventually mount failure. Delrin bushings should be kept to the race cars, or the street cars that aren't really street cars. Ryan

05-04-2009, 05:02 PM	#6
firzen Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (2) Posts: 231 Rep Power: 17	If your old bushings are shot, even a fresh set of the stock bushings would still be an upgrade. Since you're going to be driving on the street, you ought to consider the quality of the roads in your area before you buy the 'upgraded' bushings. Harder bushings in general mean a harder (read: harsher) ride.

05-05-2009, 10:28 PM	#12
NoDOHC The quest for more torque Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sheboygan, Wisconsin iTrader: (1) Posts: 855 Rep Power: 17	I have energy suspension bushing on the '91 and will soon be installing another set in the '86. I like them and think they perform well (although neither of these is a race car). __________________ 1986 GXL ('87 4-port NA - Haltech E8, LS2 Coils. Defined Autoworks Headers, Dual 2.5" Exhaust (Dual Superflow, dBX mufflers) 1991 Coupe (KYB AGX Shocks, Eibach lowering springs, RB exhaust, Stock and Automatic)