FC Zach's '87 Sport

FC Zach · 03-06-2017, 04:48 AM

So I swapped the clutch and installed the rebuilt transmission this weekend. The Centerforce Dual Friction I removed appears to still have a lot of life left on it, is there still a market for these? I'd sell it cheap if there's any interest in it.

I am waiting on oil I ordered from my AmsOil guy and an output shaft seal from Atkins Rotary to arrive so I can button everything up. I tried getting this seal locally from Oreillys but for whatever reason neither of the manual or auto seals were correct. .

They couldn't cross-reference it either but luckily Atkins pulled through

I had to remove the fancy coil mount kit to remove the long starter bolt and as I laid it to the side I felt something protruding from one of the coil-to-plug adapters. . here's what I found:

One of the detents for the plug weren't seated completely and the bad connection caused it to get hot enough to melt almost completely through the plastic housing.

I'm no longer going to be using the COP adapters and will be replacing them with tailored wired. I'll still use the coil mount, just not as it was intended.

Since the power harness was mostly disconnected, I completely removed it with hopes of replacing it with a new harness (mine is in very rough shape). I contacted Chris Ludwig to see if he can do this, if not does anyone have any recommendations on where this can be built or purchased?

***TitaniumTT*** · 03-06-2017, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FC Zach

So I swapped the clutch and installed the rebuilt transmission this weekend. The Centerforce Dual Friction I removed appears to still have a lot of life left on it, is there still a market for these? I'd sell it cheap if there's any interest in it.

Bring it to DGRR and wait for someone to blow a turbo clutch and sell it expensive. Of course I'll be the one looking for a clutch

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Originally Posted by FC Zach

I had to remove the fancy coil mount kit to remove the long starter bolt and as I laid it to the side I felt something protruding from one of the coil-to-plug adapters. . here's what I found:

One of the detents for the plug weren't seated completely and the bad connection caused it to get hot enough to melt almost completely through the plastic housing.

I'm no longer going to be using the COP adapters and will be replacing them with tailored wired. I'll still use the coil mount, just not as it was intended.

Ruh Roh!

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Originally Posted by FC Zach

Since the power harness was mostly disconnected, I completely removed it with hopes of replacing it with a new harness (mine is in very rough shape). I contacted Chris Ludwig to see if he can do this, if not does anyone have any recommendations on where this can be built or purchased?

I responded in your Alt thread.... otherwise there's always buying a new one for like $400.... they're still available per MazdaMotorsports

FC Zach · 03-07-2017, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Bring it to DGRR and wait for someone to blow a turbo clutch and sell it expensive. Of course I'll be the one looking for a clutch

HaHa noted

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Ruh Roh!

Fixed

I had extra MSD Super Conductor wire from previous builds but unfortunately had to scavenge from a new box for 8 boots and terminals

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I responded in your Alt thread.... otherwise there's always buying a new one for like $400.... they're still available per MazdaMotorsports

Sweet, thanks! that may be a better option. . . probably cheaper too. When you say "MazdaMotorsports", like a dealership?

Trans seal arrived while asleep today and oil picked up from Amsoil guy, will hopefully get this done in the morning.

Before going to sleep today I installed my shifter and ran through the gears but couldn't get it to go in fifth or reverse

I don't recall the engine having to be running to go in these gears. . could this simply be gears not aligned to allow the hub to slide in position? ?

***TitaniumTT*** · 03-07-2017, 09:28 AM

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HaHa noted

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Fixed

I had extra MSD Super Conductor wire from previous builds but unfortunately had to scavenge from a new box for 8 boots and terminals

Too bad they didn't live longer. I would've been curious to see if they made a real world difference in power on the dyno. Ironically.... well.... was it a leading or a trailing that took a shit?

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Sweet, thanks! that may be a better option. . . probably cheaper too. When you say "MazdaMotorsports", like a dealership?

Negative, like MazdaSpeed, factory parts from shipped from Canada for dealer wholesale. Need to have legit race results though to qualify

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Originally Posted by FC Zach

Trans seal arrived while asleep today and oil picked up from Amsoil guy, will hopefully get this done in the morning.

Before going to sleep today I installed my shifter and ran through the gears but couldn't get it to go in fifth or reverse

I don't recall the engine having to be running to go in these gears. . could this simply be gears not aligned to allow the hub to slide in position? ?

Not usually. I would drive that bitch quick in case something is fuxored with the trans. That cost me DGRR '10 was a bad rebuild on a tranny. Couldn't get 5th or 6th and then it jammed in fourth and I rage quit

FC Zach · 03-07-2017, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Too bad they didn't live longer. I would've been curious to see if they made a real world difference in power on the dyno. Ironically.... well.... was it a leading or a trailing that took a shit?

That one was a trailing but looking at the discoloration of the contact on another plug (L2) it appeared that it could have started on another. I'm not knocking on the design since it was retrofitted to work on a 2nd gen 13b but I'd still say some of it is design flaw.

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Negative, like MazdaSpeed, factory parts from shipped from Canada for dealer wholesale. Need to have legit race results though to qualify

Well, I guess this isn't an option. Thanks for getting my hopes up

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Not usually. I would drive that bitch quick in case something is fuxored with the trans. That cost me DGRR '10 was a bad rebuild on a tranny. Couldn't get 5th or 6th and then it jammed in fourth and I rage quit

Before going any further and completely wasting my time by reconnecting drive shaft, heat shields, exhaust. . . As well as wasting $60 in Amsoil and that damn seal I searched around for. I started it up (I did have to reinstall that janky harness though) and tried shifting with the engine idling, still no luck

man what a last couple of days! Nothing is going right, I almost fell through the ceiling Sunday afternoon! Got a hole in the bedroom to prove it LOL. . . This too shall pass!

infernosg · 03-07-2017, 11:19 AM

Holy crap on the COP adapters! I guess it's a good thing I never worked out a mounting scheme. Hopefully this is just indicative of the "variation" of the IGN-1A coils and not Peter's work. I'll stick with my coils mounted on top of the engine for now.

FC Zach · 03-07-2017, 11:25 AM

I believe it is a coil issue, I had to modify the adapters to snap in place.

***TitaniumTT*** · 03-07-2017, 12:43 PM

That's so unfortunate about the trans

Well shit, at least there's time and it's not 02:00 on Friday Morning the day before DGRR

FC Zach · 03-07-2017, 12:44 PM

True

FC Zach · 03-07-2017, 02:02 PM

Good news guys! ! I found the problem! The shifter housing spring loaded return and detent weren't assembled correctly and prevented the shifter from moving on that side. I took it apart and the lever shifted freely into both gears! It's beer thirty now!

So happy I don't have to remove and replace another tranny

***TitaniumTT*** · 03-07-2017, 02:17 PM

WOOT for easy fixes! If only my trans were that easy to fix

FC Zach · 03-07-2017, 03:34 PM

I'm glad it was an easy fix, sure did save me a lot of headache! Now the search continues for the power harness. Oh yeah, I still gotta fix that alternator issue too.

***TitaniumTT*** · 03-07-2017, 04:17 PM

I just keep laughing because I compare it to my todo list for DGRR and it's like....

RX8 - Pull engine and blah blah blah blah exhaust blah blah blah blah rear tires blah blah blah blah new windshield blah blah blah blah

RX7 - Swap rear diff blah blah blah blah swap tranny blah blah blah blah new driveshaft blah blah blah blah headlights blah blah blah blah DYNO!!!!!

djmtsu · 03-07-2017, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

I just keep laughing because I compare it to my todo list for DGRR and it's like....

RX8 - Pull engine and blah blah blah blah exhaust blah blah blah blah rear tires blah blah blah blah new windshield blah blah blah blah

RX7 - Swap rear diff blah blah blah blah swap tranny blah blah blah blah new driveshaft blah blah blah blah headlights blah blah blah blah DYNO!!!!!

Every time I talk to you on the phone lately, you've been like....

Blah blah blah I'm drunk

Blah blah blah blah I'm about to get drunk

Blah blah blah herp derp I'm working on Pete's FC

Pete_89T2 · 03-07-2017, 07:33 PM

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Every time I talk to you on the phone lately, you've been like....

Blah blah blah I'm drunk

Blah blah blah blah I'm about to get drunk

Blah blah blah herp derp I'm working on Pete's FC

I suppose that's why he needs to be drunk!

03-06-2017, 04:48 AM	#181
FC Zach RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eagleville, TN iTrader: (2) Posts: 2,267 Rep Power: 19	So I swapped the clutch and installed the rebuilt transmission this weekend. The Centerforce Dual Friction I removed appears to still have a lot of life left on it, is there still a market for these? I'd sell it cheap if there's any interest in it. I am waiting on oil I ordered from my AmsOil guy and an output shaft seal from Atkins Rotary to arrive so I can button everything up. I tried getting this seal locally from Oreillys but for whatever reason neither of the manual or auto seals were correct. . They couldn't cross-reference it either but luckily Atkins pulled through I had to remove the fancy coil mount kit to remove the long starter bolt and as I laid it to the side I felt something protruding from one of the coil-to-plug adapters. . here's what I found: One of the detents for the plug weren't seated completely and the bad connection caused it to get hot enough to melt almost completely through the plastic housing. I'm no longer going to be using the COP adapters and will be replacing them with tailored wired. I'll still use the coil mount, just not as it was intended. Since the power harness was mostly disconnected, I completely removed it with hopes of replacing it with a new harness (mine is in very rough shape). I contacted Chris Ludwig to see if he can do this, if not does anyone have any recommendations on where this can be built or purchased? __________________ 1993 Yamaha GTS1000 1992 Celica Turbo AllTrac 1987 RX7 Sport 1979 Yamaha G1, KM24 powered 1975 Dolmar KMS4

03-07-2017, 11:19 AM	#186
infernosg IT'S ALIVE! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Richmond, VA iTrader: (5) Posts: 811 Rep Power: 15	Holy crap on the COP adapters! I guess it's a good thing I never worked out a mounting scheme. Hopefully this is just indicative of the "variation" of the IGN-1A coils and not Peter's work. I'll stick with my coils mounted on top of the engine for now. __________________ '86 Mazda RX-7 Base '79 Mazda RX-7 GS

03-07-2017, 11:25 AM	#187
FC Zach RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eagleville, TN iTrader: (2) Posts: 2,267 Rep Power: 19	I believe it is a coil issue, I had to modify the adapters to snap in place. __________________ 1993 Yamaha GTS1000 1992 Celica Turbo AllTrac 1987 RX7 Sport 1979 Yamaha G1, KM24 powered 1975 Dolmar KMS4

03-07-2017, 12:43 PM	#188
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	That's so unfortunate about the trans Well shit, at least there's time and it's not 02:00 on Friday Morning the day before DGRR __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

03-07-2017, 12:44 PM	#189
FC Zach RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eagleville, TN iTrader: (2) Posts: 2,267 Rep Power: 19	True __________________ 1993 Yamaha GTS1000 1992 Celica Turbo AllTrac 1987 RX7 Sport 1979 Yamaha G1, KM24 powered 1975 Dolmar KMS4

03-07-2017, 02:02 PM	#190
FC Zach RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eagleville, TN iTrader: (2) Posts: 2,267 Rep Power: 19	Good news guys! ! I found the problem! The shifter housing spring loaded return and detent weren't assembled correctly and prevented the shifter from moving on that side. I took it apart and the lever shifted freely into both gears! It's beer thirty now! So happy I don't have to remove and replace another tranny __________________ 1993 Yamaha GTS1000 1992 Celica Turbo AllTrac 1987 RX7 Sport 1979 Yamaha G1, KM24 powered 1975 Dolmar KMS4

03-07-2017, 02:17 PM	#191
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	WOOT for easy fixes! If only my trans were that easy to fix __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

03-07-2017, 03:34 PM	#192
FC Zach RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eagleville, TN iTrader: (2) Posts: 2,267 Rep Power: 19	I'm glad it was an easy fix, sure did save me a lot of headache! Now the search continues for the power harness. Oh yeah, I still gotta fix that alternator issue too. __________________ 1993 Yamaha GTS1000 1992 Celica Turbo AllTrac 1987 RX7 Sport 1979 Yamaha G1, KM24 powered 1975 Dolmar KMS4

03-07-2017, 04:17 PM	#193
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	I just keep laughing because I compare it to my todo list for DGRR and it's like.... RX8 - Pull engine and blah blah blah blah exhaust blah blah blah blah rear tires blah blah blah blah new windshield blah blah blah blah RX7 - Swap rear diff blah blah blah blah swap tranny blah blah blah blah new driveshaft blah blah blah blah headlights blah blah blah blah DYNO!!!!! __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**