I'm Back! '90 GTUs

FC Zach · 05-02-2016, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by project86

I guess you're still running all factory mounts then Zach?

I am, definitely all new components including the crossmember but as far as whether or no I got the stiffer version, I cant remember.

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On another note.. i just finished the install of my short shifter. Yummy

although its much stiffer. I guess i just need to drive it an break it in some. Or maybe add some more gear oil to the shifter hole? any suggestions on that?

Yes, you should have added oil to the shifter housing.

project86 · 05-03-2016, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FC Zach

I am, definitely all new components including the crossmember but as far as whether or no I got the stiffer version, I cant remember.

ok cool. Yeah who knows... i may end up right there with you. We'll see. My guess is that since I'm not driving the car every day, even if it does wind up vibing more than i remember I won't be bothered.

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Originally Posted by FC Zach

Yes, you should have added oil to the shifter housing.

Shoot.. it looked like it had enough in it. Looks like I'm making a trip to buy gear oil today then. Luckily its not hard to take apart all of that.

FC Zach · 05-03-2016, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by project86

Shoot.. it looked like it had enough in it. Looks like I'm making a trip to buy gear oil today then. Luckily its not hard to take apart all of that.

It doesn't need to be overflowing, there just needs to be some in there. . I assumed that with the cars age it would have been dry

project86 · 05-03-2016, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FC Zach

It doesn't need to be overflowing, there just needs to be some in there. . I assumed that with the cars age it would have been dry

agreed. According to mazdatrix it wasn't quite full enough but there was still a decent amount in there it seemed. The stock shifter didnt really feel notchy at all but it was like a floppy sausage. Now the new shifter is obviously nice and tight but also pretty notchy. Do you think adding more fluid will help that?

FC Zach · 05-03-2016, 08:27 AM

May just be the feel of them, I have the same shifter in mine. . you have new upper and lower bushings matched with decreased leverage so it is definitely gonna feel different than what most 2nd gen owners are used to which is a floppy sausage lol

RETed · 05-03-2016, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FC Zach

It doesn't need to be overflowing, there just needs to be some in there. . I assumed that with the cars age it would have been dry

Actually, Mazda does not fill the shifter extension housing with any fluid from the factory...
So, all stock cars which have never had the transmission serviced should be dry.

IIRC, even the FSM does not instruct you to do so?

Most of us do - it doesn't hurt anything.
One negative is that if you DON'T have good shift boot covers (all THREE of them! - well, at least the most expensive, inner one with the metal flange), it's going to make a mess!

-Ted

project86 · 05-03-2016, 12:46 PM

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One negative is that if you DON'T have good shift boot covers (all THREE of them! - well, at least the most expensive, inner one with the metal flange), it's going to make a mess!

-Ted

Good to know Ted! Luckily before I ordered the short shifter (which comes with the inner boot) I checked the condition of the other boots as well. They were gone. So I now have all new boots down there

FC Zach · 05-03-2016, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RETed

Actually, Mazda does not fill the shifter extension housing with any fluid from the factory...
So, all stock cars which have never had the transmission serviced should be dry.

IIRC, even the FSM does not instruct you to do so?

Most of us do - it doesn't hurt anything.
One negative is that if you DON'T have good shift boot covers (all THREE of them! - well, at least the most expensive, inner one with the metal flange), it's going to make a mess!

-Ted

Very interesting. . . I thought I had read somewhere (don't remember where though) that it needs oil poured in it. Good to know, thanks.

Just checked my old Haynes manual I use (I knew I wasn't making this up lol) and found that instruction. .

RETed · 05-03-2016, 03:09 PM

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Just checked my old Haynes manual I use (I knew I wasn't making this up lol) and found that instruction. .
[img]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7452/26525876970_3b57e43360_k.jpg[img]

Haynes?
What's that?

-Ted

***TitaniumTT*** · 05-03-2016, 06:31 PM

I'm not sure if impressed or embarrassed that I have a somewhat impressed that I have parts of the fsm of all three gens memorized

project86 · 05-03-2016, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

I'm not sure if impressed or embarrassed that I have a somewhat impressed that I have parts of the fsm of all three gens memorized

Im impressed for you?

project86 · 05-04-2016, 08:37 AM

So i just got to thinking... I'm making a parts list so i can keep track of the stuff i need/want. Since the GTUs has the turbo suspension components wouldn't that mean that id need to buy Coilovers and such for the turbo car? Or does are the mounting points the same for turbo and non turbo cars?

***TitaniumTT*** · 05-04-2016, 10:08 AM

Same.

project86 · 05-04-2016, 12:02 PM

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Same.

Sweet. Thank. You. Brian.

RETed · 05-04-2016, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by project86

So i just got to thinking... I'm making a parts list so i can keep track of the stuff i need/want. Since the GTUs has the turbo suspension components wouldn't that mean that id need to buy Coilovers and such for the turbo car? Or does are the mounting points the same for turbo and non turbo cars?

Yep, as TTT said, it's the same...
In fact, the base models had the "special" suspension and brakes.

GXL is the "loaded" model, and the turbo (i.e. Turbo II) is a GXL + turbo engine.

The 1998 "GTU" + 1989 / 1990 "GTUs" are just GXL models minus all the heavy (i.e. powered) shit and some special features (i.e. no sunroof, but amazingly there are some that did come with sunroof).
The 1986(?) and 1987 has a "Sport" model available, and this was a precursor to the 1988 "GTU."

The brakes are standard across the board with the exception of the base models; this is for the 4-pot fronts with vented disc and 2-pot rears with vented disc.
This big brake or heavy-duty brake package were on all GXL, turbo, and convertible models + the abovementioned 1988 "GTU" and 1989 / 1990 "GTUs" models.

Brakes on base models - 1986 / 1987 "base" + 1988 "SE" - had the 2-pot(?) front with vented disc and single-pot rear with NON-vented disc; these were obvious due to the 4-lug wheel lug pattern.
In 1989 - 1991 base models, all FC's were 5-lug wheel lug pattern, but the base models had different brake calipers and discs.
(Forgot some of the specifics here...)

Let's see how long before the corrections come flying in...

-Ted

05-03-2016, 08:27 AM	#50
FC Zach RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eagleville, TN iTrader: (2) Posts: 2,267 Rep Power: 19	May just be the feel of them, I have the same shifter in mine. . you have new upper and lower bushings matched with decreased leverage so it is definitely gonna feel different than what most 2nd gen owners are used to which is a floppy sausage lol __________________ 1993 Yamaha GTS1000 1992 Celica Turbo AllTrac 1987 RX7 Sport 1979 Yamaha G1, KM24 powered 1975 Dolmar KMS4

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*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Same. __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**