Go Back   Rotary Car Club > Tech Discussion > Show your rotary car build up.

Show your rotary car build up. Show off your Rotary Car build!


Welcome to Rotary Car Club.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-09-2015, 09:46 PM   #1
GySgtFrank
Professional Stick Poker
 
GySgtFrank's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Stafford, Ks.
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 1,005
Rep Power: 15
GySgtFrank will become famous soon enough
Default MG Midget Madness (i.e. It was either this or kill it with fire)

lowered by Kevin Frank, on Flickr

1975 MG Midget - 1500cc; 4 speed. 1640lbs. with the cast iron engine and trans.

For those of you that don't know what kind of an idiot I am, I will give a brief explanation. I bought the above green hair removal tool to get around with until I could get my 79 SA back up. It seemed to only need a few things and I could either do a swap on it later, or fix it and make a little bit of money by selling it.

No dice. Every time I fixed one thing something was broken/screwed up that had been hidden away by the previous owner(s), or broke in the process of fixing something else. After about a year of fighting with it non-stop, and putting far too much money in it, (2 engines, 2 transmissions, carb, manifold, ignition, switches, wiring fixes, radiator, lights, etc etc. ad nauseum). I have had enough with the weak kneed, poorly designed and built, crappy 55hp engine and glass transmission (and worse wiring). Time for something infinitely better.

I have put quite a bit of work into suspension/interior/exterior so not all the money dumped into it will be wasted.

I will be cleaning up the '87 S4 NA 13B and 5 speed that I have and transplant the whole shebang into it. Hopefully I'll be able to retain the fuel injection, but we'll see as I go along. In addition all the wiring will be stripped out of it and either tossed in the trash, or burned in a black Sabbath bonfire to help it on it's way to hell. I will be using the GSL-SE front cover and pan to utilize the front engine mounts. The trickiest part (other than wiring) is going to be building a header, as there isn't a lot of room.

More pictures to come as I get stuff done.






__________________
1979 SA22C (parts of one anyway)
http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585

1975 MG Midget (building)
http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=18681

1988 N/A SE model FC, dead stock and less than 85k on the clock. This one actually runs, so I don't fuck with it.

Last edited by GySgtFrank; 07-03-2015 at 04:40 PM..
GySgtFrank is offline  
Old 05-09-2015, 10:04 PM   #2
chibikougan
⊙⊙
 
chibikougan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Great Falls
iTrader: (4)
Posts: 1,258
Rep Power: 16
chibikougan will become famous soon enough
Default

Dun Dun DUuuun!
__________________
Quote:
You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
You are the same decaying organic matter as everyone else,
and we are all a part of the same compost pile.
chibikougan is offline  
Old 05-10-2015, 01:22 AM   #3
Slides
Rotary Fan in Training
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NSW, Australia
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 39
Rep Power: 0
Slides is on a distinguished road
Default

Nice. A friend's father has a midget, they are a nice little car. Sticking na in a soft top is a good idea I think you would be popping windscreens otherwise. There is a guy on the adaptronic forum who has a big turbo setup in one of the hard tops
Slides is offline  
Old 05-10-2015, 07:15 AM   #4
GySgtFrank
Professional Stick Poker
 
GySgtFrank's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Stafford, Ks.
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 1,005
Rep Power: 15
GySgtFrank will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slides View Post
Nice. A friend's father has a midget, they are a nice little car. Sticking na in a soft top is a good idea I think you would be popping windscreens otherwise. There is a guy on the adaptronic forum who has a big turbo setup in one of the hard tops
That was my thinking. I doubt this chassis could handle large amounts of torque without deforming. An NA rotary should be the perfect swap in one of these. Lots of power, but low end torque should not be excessive. We'll have to see how it comes out.

engine2 by Kevin Frank, on Flickr

before picture, pretty, but a PITA.
__________________
1979 SA22C (parts of one anyway)
http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585

1975 MG Midget (building)
http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=18681

1988 N/A SE model FC, dead stock and less than 85k on the clock. This one actually runs, so I don't fuck with it.

Last edited by GySgtFrank; 05-10-2015 at 07:40 AM..
GySgtFrank is offline  
Old 05-10-2015, 02:50 PM   #5
Nutsid
Temporarily insane.
 
Nutsid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Changing constantly.
iTrader: (1)
Posts: 283
Rep Power: 17
Nutsid is on a distinguished road
Default

If you would like a S4 NA engine, I just so happen to have on sitting on my kitchen table. Good luck, Gunny. Your luck with cars is about the worst I've ever seen.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Industrial Records
Leaders are not essential, we are TAUGHT to believe we need them, that we are not able to assume responsibility for ourselves. Lies created leaders, lies perpetuate leaders, lies destroy joy and creativity and hope
Quote:
Originally Posted by chibikougan View Post
Did you just call us Penis Wrinkles?
For my music blog: dustinsmusicblog.blogspot.com

For my collection of short stories:
Kindle
Nook
Nutsid is offline  
Old 05-10-2015, 03:06 PM   #6
GySgtFrank
Professional Stick Poker
 
GySgtFrank's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Stafford, Ks.
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 1,005
Rep Power: 15
GySgtFrank will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nutsid View Post
If you would like a S4 NA engine, I just so happen to have on sitting on my kitchen table. Good luck, Gunny. Your luck with cars is about the worst I've ever seen.
I may take you up on that whenever I manage to get any money. (The green appetite ate it all). A spare engine would be a good thing, especially if the curse is transferrable.
__________________
1979 SA22C (parts of one anyway)
http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585

1975 MG Midget (building)
http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=18681

1988 N/A SE model FC, dead stock and less than 85k on the clock. This one actually runs, so I don't fuck with it.
GySgtFrank is offline  
Old 05-10-2015, 03:08 PM   #7
Nutsid
Temporarily insane.
 
Nutsid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Changing constantly.
iTrader: (1)
Posts: 283
Rep Power: 17
Nutsid is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GySgtFrank View Post
I may take you up on that whenever I manage to get any money. (The green appetite ate it all). A spare engine would be a good thing, especially if the curse is transferrable.
Just let me know. It has sat a really long time so it could probably use a freshening up, but it was fully operational when it was pulled out years and years ago.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Industrial Records
Leaders are not essential, we are TAUGHT to believe we need them, that we are not able to assume responsibility for ourselves. Lies created leaders, lies perpetuate leaders, lies destroy joy and creativity and hope
Quote:
Originally Posted by chibikougan View Post
Did you just call us Penis Wrinkles?
For my music blog: dustinsmusicblog.blogspot.com

For my collection of short stories:
Kindle
Nook
Nutsid is offline  
Old 05-11-2015, 07:55 AM   #8
infernosg
IT'S ALIVE!
 
infernosg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Richmond, VA
iTrader: (5)
Posts: 811
Rep Power: 15
infernosg is on a distinguished road
Default

Nice! A coworker of mine has been working on a custom chassis/caged Midget built around a 12A for some years now. I keep trying to convince him to ditch the 12A and go with a 13B.
infernosg is offline  
Old 05-11-2015, 01:50 PM   #9
13x
SinCityRotary
 
13x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Sin City
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 207
Rep Power: 15
13x is on a distinguished road
Default

oooh gunny the MG guys are going to black ball ya lol ... you can do this ... am curious of the outcome ... good thing about the tiny tires is they should break loose before anything breaks lol
__________________
WHiV8 in the works!! May 2015

Email
13x is offline  
Old 05-11-2015, 03:05 PM   #10
GySgtFrank
Professional Stick Poker
 
GySgtFrank's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Stafford, Ks.
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 1,005
Rep Power: 15
GySgtFrank will become famous soon enough
Default

That is one of the good points to this swap Ray.

The tires are the new ones I bought for the 79, They were OK with this engine, but they did break loose pretty easy on the RX7. I'm hoping to get it down to 1500lbs (800lbs lighter than the 79 RX7) which will only make matters worse, but fun. Now if I can only figure out how to get the waffles on there.

:edit: engine and trans are back out. I may end up using my Weber 45 side draft as it would be simpler, but I really like the reliability and ease of the stock fuel injection. I've heard that the stock FI intake will hit the hood, I'll have to try it and see for myself.
__________________
1979 SA22C (parts of one anyway)
http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585

1975 MG Midget (building)
http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=18681

1988 N/A SE model FC, dead stock and less than 85k on the clock. This one actually runs, so I don't fuck with it.

Last edited by GySgtFrank; 05-11-2015 at 03:16 PM..
GySgtFrank is offline  
Old 05-11-2015, 06:15 PM   #11
silverfdturbo6port
500hp club
 
silverfdturbo6port's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: spokane
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 79
Rep Power: 14
silverfdturbo6port is on a distinguished road
Default

My next door neighbors 13b 6 port. Webber carbs, header. Pretty fun to drive!
Attached Images
File Type: jpeg IMG_27156846643550.jpeg (96.8 KB, 31 views)
File Type: jpeg IMG_27150748088084.jpeg (84.7 KB, 44 views)
__________________
500hp AEM EMS RotaryAutomotive street ported Aviation sealed 13b-rew
20B 20BEEST FD
23A 4 rotor Long gone
72 rx3 drag machine
silverfdturbo6port is offline  
Old 05-11-2015, 07:48 PM   #12
GySgtFrank
Professional Stick Poker
 
GySgtFrank's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Stafford, Ks.
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 1,005
Rep Power: 15
GySgtFrank will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by silverfdturbo6port View Post
My next door neighbors 13b 6 port. Webber carbs, header. Pretty fun to drive!
I know this swap has been done quite a few times in the past, but I've never seen one. Let alone got to drive one. Do you know what he did for a transmission? It's looking like I'm going to have to move the shifter box forward 8.5 inches if I use my NA 5 speed.
__________________
1979 SA22C (parts of one anyway)
http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585

1975 MG Midget (building)
http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=18681

1988 N/A SE model FC, dead stock and less than 85k on the clock. This one actually runs, so I don't fuck with it.
GySgtFrank is offline  
Old 05-11-2015, 10:59 PM   #13
silverfdturbo6port
500hp club
 
silverfdturbo6port's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: spokane
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 79
Rep Power: 14
silverfdturbo6port is on a distinguished road
Default

Its a 86 or 87 box. The tunnel has to be modified to work. thus picture doesnt show but its the exact same color as yours.
__________________
500hp AEM EMS RotaryAutomotive street ported Aviation sealed 13b-rew
20B 20BEEST FD
23A 4 rotor Long gone
72 rx3 drag machine
silverfdturbo6port is offline  
Old 05-12-2015, 07:07 AM   #14
BrewerBob
Rotary Fan in Training
 
BrewerBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Essex, MD
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 31
Rep Power: 0
BrewerBob is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GySgtFrank View Post
but low end torque should not be nonexistent.
Fixed.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by mazpower
Wherever there is meat to be rubbed, smoked and cooked...wherever there are mountain roads that need slaying with his trusty Dakota, Batwing Bob is there, his skin flapping in the wind, casting a shadow over the populace and giving them comfort
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fendamonky View Post
Bawbs got 99 problems, but being old apparently ain't one
BrewerBob is offline  
Old 05-12-2015, 07:11 AM   #15
BrewerBob
Rotary Fan in Training
 
BrewerBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Essex, MD
iTrader: (0)
Posts: 31
Rep Power: 0
BrewerBob is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GySgtFrank View Post
I've heard that the stock FI intake will hit the hood, I'll have to try it and see for myself.
Then just drop everything lower and further back a la Brian style.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by mazpower
Wherever there is meat to be rubbed, smoked and cooked...wherever there are mountain roads that need slaying with his trusty Dakota, Batwing Bob is there, his skin flapping in the wind, casting a shadow over the populace and giving them comfort
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fendamonky View Post
Bawbs got 99 problems, but being old apparently ain't one
BrewerBob is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Hosted by www.GotPlacement.com
Ad Management by RedTyger