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03-22-2014, 05:11 PM | #46 |
Rotary Fan in Training
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i just got back from some street testing with the low boost actuator set to very little preload (2mm). so the wastegate pressure is ~5psi, and it creeps up to about 15psi and stabilizes.
i used the haltech boost control to set the boost straight to 15, but i had to run 100% wastegate duty, so i'm going to replace the low boost canister with the original medium boost canister and preload it to run 15 psi and do some fine tuning with the boost control solenoid. the turbo response is great. had 15psi by ~3300rpms, and this turbo is physically bigger (comp wheel, turbine wheel, and turbine A/R) than the previous Precision 6262 setup and has better response. i am not happy that i can't run less than 15psi. i am going to see if i can do anything about it. |
03-22-2014, 09:37 PM | #47 |
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thats disappointing. do you have any pics of the wastegate ports? how big are they?
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03-23-2014, 12:11 AM | #48 |
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meh............. while I understand the frustration, 15psi is like the lowest boost ever anyway? you run that in 1st gear, then 20psi second, 30psi 3rd, 45psi onwards in 4th and back down to 30psi in 5th so you don't break the gearbox.
I am different though, 15psi is very low power setting regardless of porting type.
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03-23-2014, 06:54 PM | #50 |
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hey guys, i did a little more tinkering and decided to swap out the wastegate actuators, swapping back to the "medium boost" actuator, and the overboost problem is completely fixed.
i have no idea why the problem existed with only the low boost actuator, but swapping it out completely fixed the problem. and sorry, i've been on an emotional rollercoaster over this the last 2 days so i dyno tuned today, and the short story is that this turbo is awesome. running the same boost as my previous 6262 setup, it made 12psi 1500rpms sooner, and made the exact same power. here are the graphs below (scales are different, and different software, but you can see the difference in response) so the result was 338whp @ 12psi with very good boost response. enjoy the pics and videos. previous 6262 setup previous 6262 setup boost response new EFR 8374 setup new EFR 8374 setup with power and boost plot (notice the boost is in ~1500 rpms SOONER) hot exhaust RX7 dyno, EFR 8374 IWG turbo, 338whp@12psi - YouTube RX7 BW IWG EFR8374 dyno hot exhaust - YouTube RX7 BW IWG EFR8374 In Car 2 of 2 - YouTube Last edited by jacobcartmill; 03-23-2014 at 10:01 PM.. |
03-23-2014, 08:19 PM | #52 | |
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edit: i think you were looking at the wrong axis. Last edited by jacobcartmill; 03-23-2014 at 09:26 PM.. |
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03-23-2014, 08:20 PM | #53 | |
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5640rpm = 300hp/280tq on the 8374 > 280hp/265tq on the 6262 did you mean to say more?
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03-24-2014, 04:20 AM | #54 |
Don Mega
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How many milliseconds do you have in your map in vacum to get it to throw flames like that? are you retarding the spark as well or just dumping in a shit load of fuel on heavy decel?
Looks good, all rotaries need to throw flames like that !
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03-24-2014, 04:29 AM | #55 |
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03-24-2014, 09:56 AM | #58 | |
Rotary Fan in Training
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RICE, i am using the deceleration fuel-cut with a "fuel restore" value of 10% (which is a little too much) when going from decel to back on the throttle. there is also an ignition retard setting to go with this, which i think is at -5* retard (i will have to look again). the fuel "restore" should probably be closer to 2-3%, but it's just so damn cool, and it may help to cool off the exhaust slightly (any input on this? i have heard this can have a slight cooling effect on the exhaust). |
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03-24-2014, 08:22 PM | #59 |
The Newbie
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Great result! IWG is so much easier! What is the IWG area vs the original external WG area? Looking at how much earlier and how sharply power falls over with the EFR you'd have to assume something is choking?
It would be interesting to see what the compressor could do at 22psi where it's right in it's efficiency range. |
03-25-2014, 07:25 AM | #60 |
Rotary Fan in Training
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Probably too rich and not enough advance up top based on video. The turbine wheel and a/r are even bigger than the PTE. We have many to Dyno including one to 30 psi in a few weeks..
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