Neutral Switch MTX

***TitaniumTT*** · 05-23-2011, 08:08 AM

Mazdatrix

infernosg · 05-23-2011, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tweiss3

MT?

I assume MazdaTrix.

I don't have my wiring diagram handy but is the neutral switch also connected to the ignition switch (i.e. can't start car w/o clutch depressed)?

tweiss3 · 05-23-2011, 08:09 AM

Ugh, cali shipping FTL

tweiss3 · 05-23-2011, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infernosg

I assume MazdaTrix.

I don't have my wiring diagram handy but is the neutral switch also connected to the ignition switch (i.e. can't start car w/o clutch depressed)?

The neutral switch isn't the same as the clutch switch, cause you can start the car in gear as long as the clutch is depressed. The neutral switch is in the transmission, and the clutch switch is under the dash i believe.

***TitaniumTT*** · 05-23-2011, 08:28 AM

You are correct. If the clutch switch fails, you cannot start the car. If the clutch switch is out of adjustment, you can't start the car. They're good to have though, even though mine is bypassed for the bump start and the remote start, but that's why I have the neutral safety switch. If the neutral safety switch fails, neither the remote start or the bump start will work.

FRED · 05-23-2011, 08:57 AM

It's the interlock switch at the top of the clutch pedal thats in the start circuit. The lower clutch switch is for ECU information and cruise cut if installed.

tweiss3 · 05-23-2011, 09:10 AM

Well here is the question. My car almost never idles, i let it idle for maybe 60 seconds before hitting the road, and my commutes are almost all highway. If i just put in the broken switch till next week when i get the new one, will that be ok? I won't have any detrimental effects, other than possibly worse mileage when i do stop at a light for 40 seconds?

My5ABaby · 05-23-2011, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

You are correct. If the clutch switch fails, you cannot start the car. If the clutch switch is out of adjustment, you can't start the car. They're good to have though, even though mine is bypassed for the bump start and the remote start, but that's why I have the neutral safety switch. If the neutral safety switch fails, neither the remote start or the bump start will work.

Or if you have an '86 you just don't have a clutch switch.

***TitaniumTT*** · 05-23-2011, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRED

It's the interlock switch at the top of the clutch pedal thats in the start circuit. The lower clutch switch is for ECU information and cruise cut if installed.

Yes, but top of the clutch means the clutch must be on the floor for the circuit to close. If you put the clutch in, crank it and then lift the clutch slightly, the circuit opens and powewr to the starter is cut. Opposite holds true for the lower switch. Rest your foot on the clutch pedal with the cruise working and there is a chance it'll cut out.

***TitaniumTT*** · 05-23-2011, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweiss3

Well here is the question. My car almost never idles, i let it idle for maybe 60 seconds before hitting the road, and my commutes are almost all highway. If i just put in the broken switch till next week when i get the new one, will that be ok? I won't have any detrimental effects, other than possibly worse mileage when i do stop at a light for 40 seconds?

No, it'll be fine.

tweiss3 · 05-23-2011, 09:38 AM

Sounds like a plan then

***TitaniumTT*** · 05-23-2011, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My5ABaby

Or if you have an '86 you just don't have a clutch switch.

You guys and your weird ass '86s

tweiss3 · 05-23-2011, 10:15 AM

on a related note, its a hell of a lot harder putting the trans back in yourself than it is taking it out yourself

tweiss3 · 05-24-2011, 08:28 AM

And done, she is much smoother now

infernosg · 05-24-2011, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweiss3

The neutral switch isn't the same as the clutch switch, cause you can start the car in gear as long as the clutch is depressed. The neutral switch is in the transmission, and the clutch switch is under the dash i believe.

Ugh, realized this shortly after I posted. Is it Memorial Day yet?

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweiss3

on a related note, its a hell of a lot harder putting the trans back in yourself than it is taking it out yourself

And done, she is much smoother now

Wow, with a lift and two other people it took me 4 hours to get a new transmission installed on my FC. The splines on the input shaft just didn't want to mesh with those in the clutch

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*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	You are correct. If the clutch switch fails, you cannot start the car. If the clutch switch is out of adjustment, you can't start the car. They're good to have though, even though mine is bypassed for the bump start and the remote start, but that's why I have the neutral safety switch. If the neutral safety switch fails, neither the remote start or the bump start will work. __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

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tweiss3 Mazda Lover Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Akron, Ohio iTrader: (0) Posts: 319 Rep Power: 15	Well here is the question. My car almost never idles, i let it idle for maybe 60 seconds before hitting the road, and my commutes are almost all highway. If i just put in the broken switch till next week when i get the new one, will that be ok? I won't have any detrimental effects, other than possibly worse mileage when i do stop at a light for 40 seconds? __________________ 2004 Mazda6 V6 5-spd - still waiting on money for a motor 1991 Mazda RX7 NA 5-spd - my new DD with 145,000 miles

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tweiss3 Mazda Lover Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Akron, Ohio iTrader: (0) Posts: 319 Rep Power: 15	Sounds like a plan then __________________ 2004 Mazda6 V6 5-spd - still waiting on money for a motor 1991 Mazda RX7 NA 5-spd - my new DD with 145,000 miles

05-23-2011, 08:57 AM	#21
FRED Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2011 iTrader: (0) Posts: 73 Rep Power: 14	It's the interlock switch at the top of the clutch pedal thats in the start circuit. The lower clutch switch is for ECU information and cruise cut if installed.

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tweiss3 Mazda Lover Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Akron, Ohio iTrader: (0) Posts: 319 Rep Power: 15	on a related note, its a hell of a lot harder putting the trans back in yourself than it is taking it out yourself __________________ 2004 Mazda6 V6 5-spd - still waiting on money for a motor 1991 Mazda RX7 NA 5-spd - my new DD with 145,000 miles

05-24-2011, 08:28 AM	#29
tweiss3 Mazda Lover Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Akron, Ohio iTrader: (0) Posts: 319 Rep Power: 15	And done, she is much smoother now __________________ 2004 Mazda6 V6 5-spd - still waiting on money for a motor 1991 Mazda RX7 NA 5-spd - my new DD with 145,000 miles