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Old 03-15-2011, 11:00 AM   #751
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Not entirely. The DBW system needs feedback. It can't assume that it knows where the throttles at based on where the stepper motor SHOULD be. Think Prius runaways. So there is the stepper motor and then a seperate integrated TPS on most DBW systems.

The input is just a potentimeter though.

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Old 03-15-2011, 11:06 AM   #752
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Seriously? No storage bins and no rear seats... stocker steel wheels.... I'm intriguerd.
Yea... our cars are (were ?) the "SE" model, MC had an '86 Base. Base models were just that... basic. No sunroof, no storage bins, no ps, usually no a/c and steel 14" wheels (not the phone dials, but actual steelies). Its actually a pretty sought after body due to it being the lightest one over the SE and lack of sunroof.
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Old 03-15-2011, 11:18 AM   #753
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Wierd shit man.... mine is the "SE" as well... I had the 14" phonedials, sunroof, and I got me some bins too..... wierd. Mine is also an '88, so it's not some super early production like it sounds like you two got. Badass though... rotary history right there
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Sometimes I wish I hadn't sold it since it was light it would have made a great car to smash cones with or a real good car to hotrod the body was straight as an arrow and only needed paint it was fading artic silver (yea yea... I know just like you and bill) damn ... thinking about it that was 13 years ago. Damn I'm getting old.
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Brian,
I would have to say your the coolest person I have not had the chance to meet! See over here in VA I catch the slack from Bill and his 10 year project and MC with his crazy ass toys..but you my friend make me feel when you and MC give him a hell!! I hope that I will get to see your sweet ass FC in person soon..
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Not entirely. The DBW system needs feedback. It can't assume that it knows where the throttles at based on where the stepper motor SHOULD be. Think Prius runaways. So there is the stepper motor and then a seperate integrated TPS on most DBW systems.

The input is just a potentimeter though.

Once again MoTeC > Haltech
You only need an input if you want to run it in a closed loop function. You could easily setup similarly to how the stock stepper motors worked (did a full sweep to minimum on start up). So unless someone stuck something in there to keep it from hitting minimum first it should be fine.

As it stands right now; the stepper motor control of the Haltech can run Oil Pumps (Which can also be used for intake manifold runner length alteration), and ICV's.
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They also had carpet where there was only 1 bin. I found that really really weird.
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Side note, noticed your from Akron, sorry, lol... most my family lives in/around Wadsworth/Hudson so I go through Akron fairly often. Hope your FC is not an original OH car....
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Sometimes I wish I hadn't sold it since it was light it would have made a great car to smash cones with or a real good car to hotrod the body was straight as an arrow and only needed paint it was fading artic silver (yea yea... I know just like you and bill) damn ... thinking about it that was 13 years ago. Damn I'm getting old.
Of course you wish that..... who in their right mind would sell an FC???!?!?!!??

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I would have to say your the coolest person I have not had the chance to meet! See over here in VA I catch the slack from Bill and his 10 year project and MC with his crazy ass toys..but you my friend make me feel when you and MC give him a hell!! I hope that I will get to see your sweet ass FC in person soon..
I dunno about that but thanks man, I appreciate it. Bill does give it back as good as he takes it though, I do have to say that.... and after the Deals he's gonna get a lot more

You coming to Deals? 'Cuz I will definately be there.... I think tomorrow I may try and go for the record, 53 hrs Get ahead of the curve before she goes down for 2 weeks.

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You like it DIRTY???
We own rotaries, we all like it dirty, filthy, noxious, oily... yeah... bring it on!!!

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Say whhhaaaaaa????? Pics?
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You only need an input if you want to run it in a closed loop function. You could easily setup similarly to how the stock stepper motors worked (did a full sweep to minimum on start up). So unless someone stuck something in there to keep it from hitting minimum first it should be fine.

As it stands right now; the stepper motor control of the Haltech can run Oil Pumps (Which can also be used for intake manifold runner length alteration), and ICV's.
From what I understand from the MoTeC notes and data sheets, the Renni OMP is a non feedback OMP and requires a different ECU option. Anything 13B uses the feedback type OMP and that's a basic stepper motor option. The 13B electric OMP is a feedback type stepper, that's how, from what I understand, all the DBW's work, you need redundacy damnit

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nice..

Side note, noticed your from Akron, sorry, lol... most my family lives in/around Wadsworth/Hudson so I go through Akron fairly often. Hope your FC is not an original OH car....
Pssssshhhhh, my FC was originally a CT/VT car! And we all saw the holes in that chassis

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muhuhahahahahaha

Sexy..... I need my Stage 3's here, noaw damnit!!!!
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