FC3S Murray's never ending build.

[WhiteNA1]

ahhhhh mixed feelings watching that. Little sick to my stomach almost a tear in my eye and goose bumps on my arms till I lol'd at that weird bald dude? I almost never want to see it again. .......


nuther edit... Gawwwwwd I just wanna go pick it up and put my suspension back on it and take it for a long drive. Sometimes I think to myself, "how could I ever let it go?". Its sorta hard. Did not think it would be.

peace out. enjoy your ride.

[JShiz]

That vid was awesome. And that NSX chewed up the porsche

[project86]

Originally Posted by WhiteNA1

ahhhhh mixed feelings watching that. Little sick to my stomach almost a tear in my eye and goose bumps on my arms till I lol'd at that weird bald dude? I almost never want to see it again. .......


nuther edit... Gawwwwwd I just wanna go pick it up and put my suspension back on it and take it for a long drive. Sometimes I think to myself, "how could I ever let it go?". Its sorta hard. Did not think it would be.

peace out. enjoy your ride.

why did you get rid of it anyway?

[FC3S Murray]

Update:

So I FINALLY finished installing my water injection system. I took my time since the weather up here turned to shit last week and I find rushing never does any good.

The kit is from Snow Performance and is the Stage 1 Boost Cooler. Kit comes with everything you need to include 220 psi pump, nozzle, water jug, activation LED, fluid low-level sensor with LED, mounting hardware, water lines, sealant, electrical fittings/crimps/eyelets...I mean they dont mess around, you get EVERYTHING you need for install. GREAT customer service too!

I on the other hand went a different route and wanted 2 nozzles at smaller sizes that would eqaul the proper size for my 50/50 meth/water mix SO they would atomize even better (plus it looks kick ass). My total nozzle size is 375ml/min and 175ml/min = 550 ml/min of 50/50 mix. I originally was going to go only water so I had 2 175ml/min nozzles ordered BUT after much more reading and research (Howard Coleman is the man!), a 50/50 mix seems to be the most beneficial for performance AND knock safety.




on to the install pics:

I mounted the pump and the fluid container behind my passenger seat due to engine bay space limitations.


I routed the water lines under the carpet by the passenger seat and up through the main harness firewall grommet, then securing to the firewall pinch weld with some 1/4 inch clamps and bolt head caps. I had to wrap the line with teflon tape to prevent chaffing on the edge of the pinch weld.


Mounted the boost sensor and relay by the brake booster. Snow recommend that you do not bolt boost sensor to the engine bay due to possibly distorting the diaphram SO I ended up using a zip tie and some .020'' safety wire to secure it.



I did have to order 2 aluminum bungs to weld into my intercooler piping (not in kit)
Here are the 2 nozzles.......




I am very happy on where I located the 2 L.E.D.'s! I ended up mounting them on the gauge dash bezel. Green is activation light and orange is the low lfluid level. They are both very visible from the drivers seat.







I had to test the pump after install and it works GREAT. The atomization is VERY fine and I would of had video but I was short handed. The kit was a great price and I CAN"T WAIT to see it perform once I finish break in.

...I need to hit the road soon...lol

[FC3S Murray]

Well I am at 1600 miles and I started doing some boost AFR tuning up to about 7 psi. HARD as SHIT to tune when your WG spring opens at 14.5 psi lol.

I was going to wait until 2000 miles to do WOT tuning but I have probably heat cycled that motor since last August about 40 times.....no joke.

I tell you what my Water/Methonal inj does some wonders on the intake temps.......I hit 9 psi last night and my water/meth kicked on for about 2 seconds.....AIT was 32*C and it dropped to 18*C and stayed there for a good 3-4 mins after the spray.

I will start tuning with project86 as my laptop monitor as soon as this damn weather clears up. For now I will check the spark plugs and do a compression check.

stay tuned

[project86]

damn my impatience on a car thats not even mine...

[FC3S Murray]

BAD NEWS.......

Went out today with Kyle(Project86) and did some WOT tuning for 3 hours straight. Did about 20 3rd/4th gear pulls and got my AFR down to 11.0:1 -11.2:1 AFR at 15psi with my 50/50 inj system working great the whole time.

IGL was 11, IGT split was 10, highest knock value logged for the day was 23 in midrange.....at 15 psi and above 5000 rpm the knock values were 3 to 8 sometimes as low as 2.

NEEDLESS to say it was a conservative tune and felt very strong.

Anyway after our 2.5 hours of WOT highway tuning we headed back home to refill the AUX inj tank. Then We decided to get some video of some WOT pulls for the forums.....

We ended up doing a 1st-2nd-3rd gear pull and I CRACKED MY FUCKING FRONT IRON !!

I actually laid off in 3rd gear at about 6000rpm and noticed a big cloud of blue smoke behind me pouring out my ass end......I glanced at my oil pressure and it was slowly lowering as I blipped the throttle. SO I cut the engine off and pulled into a parking lot that was very near.........HAD SMOKE coming out from under the hood SO I grabbed a fire extinguisher and THANK GOD no fire...just smoke. OIL WAS EVRYWHERE.......and after a quick scan of the engine bay HOPING that a turbo oil line popped off it hit like a brick and I thought to my self, "check the front iron"........sure as shit I saw the crack plain as day......



As the motor sits now.....OIL everywhere.......tried cleaning most up SHITTY!!



GOOD NEWS IS Kyle got some video of it being FAST before she broke....he will post it later tonight.


At this point I do not know what to do........I am undecided if I want to part the car out or sell it in whole. I have ZERO time for this now and really just want it gone right now. I need to sit and think for a while.......

[project86]

Here is the link to the video since i couldnt figure out how to just post the vid. http://www.facebook.com/video/video....14088401944294

[TitaniumTT]

Damn Sean..... Sorry to hear that man. WTF caused it? Got the datalogs? PFC's are not known for fluky ign leading to cracked irons.

Buy an iron, send me the keg and the new iron and I'll put an engine together for ya before you sell that car. If you so much as mention "sale" or "part out" I will personally come out to you and stuff one of those intercooler pipes up your ass, then through a turbo at your face, and leave with your Works

Kyle - post it on youtube, some of us older gents don't bother with that teeny bopper facebook crap

[Rotary Inspired]

Dont sweat it man. I have been there. Good news is you only need a new plate. Just take your time and rebuild it.

Are you running any ignition amplifiers? I can look it up but which ECU? Just curious.

Last time I broke my plate was due to a misfire (overly rich due to someone --me-- forgetting to set the rev limiter back.)

Do you have the run logged?

[project86]

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Damn Sean..... Sorry to hear that man. WTF caused it? Got the datalogs? PFC's are not known for fluky ign leading to cracked irons.

Buy an iron, send me the keg and the new iron and I'll put an engine together for ya before you sell that car. If you so much as mention "sale" or "part out" I will personally come out to you and stuff one of those intercooler pipes up your ass, then through a turbo at your face, and leave with your Works

Kyle - post it on youtube, some of us older gents don't bother with that teeny bopper facebook crap

ah haha you so funny Brian. FYI its a good way to keep in touch with ppl...



its on youtube now ill post the link......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shcOH779fVM

and i wanted to cry when that happened... it feels like someone died. i know i didnt put as much time into that car as Sean did obviously but i helped tune and build the engine and there is some emotional attachment there.

[need RX7]

Ah man, no way . Really sorry to hear about that. I hope you change your mind on selling it or parting out, but I can understand the frustration you're having with it.

I think you should take Mr. Spoolin' up on his offer. Shipping an engine isn't as expensive as you'd think . When I bought my short block, the shipping charge was $105 from SC to MI with Yellow Freight.

[chibikougan]

[RETed]

Sorry for not digging up the info, but...

Was that an S4 or S5 front iron?


-Ted

[FC3S Murray]

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Damn Sean..... Sorry to hear that man. WTF caused it? Got the datalogs? PFC's are not known for fluky ign leading to cracked irons.

Buy an iron, send me the keg and the new iron and I'll put an engine together for ya before you sell that car. If you so much as mention "sale" or "part out" I will personally come out to you and stuff one of those intercooler pipes up your ass, then through a turbo at your face, and leave with your Works

Kyle - post it on youtube, some of us older gents don't bother with that teeny bopper facebook crap

Thanks dude but I am at my final straw with the good old rotary. I am going to part out all the rotary components and this may sting a bit.............but I am dropping in an LSx motor. I am already looking at the LS3 crate motor through a Chev buddy BUT I have to research if it is a common swapped compared to the LS2.

A part of me is bummed BUT a new spark of interest has started with the thought of a new platform.

I have TOO much work into the body/chasis/suspension and wheels to get rid of this car that has been in my life for 8 years.

Granted this project will no doubt take 2 years or more since my family comes first and or second child on the way makes that timeline maybe even longer.

I HAVE THOUGHT about another plate but I imagine it will crack again. My logs showed low LOW knock and AFRs all 11.0-11.2:1. I have an HKS Twin Power so my IGN system was firing pretty hot. I think the shift from 2nd gear to 3rd was such an abrupt power transfer that it just caused the motor to twist. FUCK it makes me mad! You go from 20+ WOT pulls on the highway in 3rd and 4th.....all temps great..wtr 82*C AIR 22*C oil temp 180*F and the motor doesnt give BUT you do a quick burst through the gears and CRACK lol.

Sorry for not digging up the info, but...

Was that an S4 or S5 front iron?

it was a S5 front Iron Ted. I mean what else could I use that is thicker?

OH believe me Ransom......I am very discouraged

Ah man, no way . Really sorry to hear about that. I hope you change your mind on selling it or parting out, but I can understand the frustration you're having with it.

I think you should take Mr. Spoolin' up on his offer. Shipping an engine isn't as expensive as you'd think . When I bought my short block, the shipping charge was $105 from SC to MI with Yellow Freight.
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Thanks dude and I thought about hitting Brian up but he has enough on his plate PLUS Where do I go from here.........it was a S5 front plate so I guess I have to stud it. I should have just went with the REW.