Diary of a Madman; TitaniumTT's see you @ DGRRXI RE-REbuild

[TitaniumTT]

[QUOTE=helghast7;107228]damn lol, is there anything you wont test? lol

No

Originally Posted by helghast7

have to start calling you the chosen one lol

hmmmmm, I like that.

Got an email from my guru buddy, here's what he has to say

Originally Posted by guru

D510 is documented as being able to get more done with less dwell time. D585 if it auto discharges will discharge with the timing wildly advanced.. Your engine your call there. If the engine cranks too slow get a better starter / battery / cables... Heat sinks do work in both directs they give off and absorb heat so a coil heater as well as cooler. Unless you move the coils the wires should be the same. I will have to look at my LSX notes to get the pin out.

Looks like I'll be going with the D510C's. In speaking with a few other people, they say that the D585's will not auto discharge, but I'm not going to take that chance. The other person that I spoke with inside MoTeC gave me a marking on the coil to aviod because of the auto-discharge, I believe it to be the D514's. Either way, the key is the documented more effiecient windings in the D510C's off the newest LS7 which is what I'll be going with.

I wonder how many people running Haltechs with mysterious ignition fires are suffering from autodischarge from over dwelling subpar coils.........

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by WE3RX7

Good pics! Nobody at our autox seems to get good shots... including me! My first race is next weekend already, time flies.....

First race? Damn I hate you so much right now

[helghast7]

Just want to give Brian and Alex a huge thanks,

got back earlier today from CT to get my ppf repaired, they did an amazing job on it, and i can honestly say that that roaches and my ppf will be the only things left around if a nuclear war occured

and btw, Brians welding shits on the factory

[TitaniumTT]

Thanks much Dave, Glad you're happy with it. Let us know when you're ready for those RX8 seats.


Aight guys, been a week, I've been busy/slacking a little and surprise surprise, I'm behind schedual already, I think I'm up to about #5 so far. Wash, wax, found the draw, pulled the engine, fit the supersecret trans and dropped some parts off for some machining. Here are the pics, if ANYONE recognizes this trans - SHEDAP!

A shot looking from the drivers side underneath, look how damn close the mounts are.... physced, no need to fab a second set of mounts on the chassis to mount this trans. Build a mount and I can swap between the Type R and this new 6spd... WOOT!




Shows how damn close it is to the original shift hole. The trans does need to go a weeeeeee bit higher so it looks like I finally get to take my Plasma cutter to the chassis..... oh joy



From behind



And here she is on the getting ready to head over to the stand for a few months worth of storage I miss driving her already



and backed outside so I can douche out the shop pretty hardcore tomorrow. Pulling engines is brutal for floors.



So no it's time to strip her down completely and start building that new fuel tank, then up on the rotisserie for that undercarriage chemotherapy. Hopefully I be balls deep into that by the end of the week

[helghast7]

nice dude nice, speaking of seats i just picked them up today, so when im ready to come down there coming with me

no go for this weekend though, picking up my engine tomorrow

so psyched!!

[jtbshaw]

You decide to do the fuel cell idea, Brian? Or something else?

Pic?...here's what the tank looked like when I finished it (for my son's TII):

[WE3RX7]

Its nice to know everybody slacks off once and a while

trans looked like it worked out really well so far, good luck on the final bits!

[FC3S Murray]

You are a busy man Brian BUT THAT FUCKING TRANNY WILL BE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by helghast7

nice dude nice, speaking of seats i just picked them up today, so when im ready to come down there coming with me

no go for this weekend though, picking up my engine tomorrow

so psyched!!

Sweet!!!! Do you still need the flange??? Or are you going to drop the engine in and fit the intercooler piping and make a mark for the flange before you bring everything?

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by jtbshaw

You decide to do the fuel cell idea, Brian? Or something else?

Pic?...here's what the tank looked like when I finished it (for my son's TII):

WOW!!!!!!! I love it! Thanks for the pic Todd. Alex actually reclaimed his tanks and diff today so I took a BUNCH of measurements and yeah, I decided I'm going to do it. I'm going to take a slightly different approach than you did though, I'm going to build it from scratch out of some .125" AL, haven't decided on 5052 or 6061 yet, gotta see if the supplier can brake .125" 6061, but prob not recommended. 5052 always bends easy.

I'm not entirely sure on the dimensions as of yet, but it looks like it will be about 20gals, and will have a built in surge tank, 3-4 qts, with a drop in Bosch 044.... yeah, I'm going to try it again and try to quite it down a bit. If it's too loud, I'm going to have the Cosmo pump flowed and make sure that it's up to snuff so if it is too loud, I'll use the Cosmo pump as the lift, and the supra tt pump as the pressure pump.

So no sump, no external fittings, no external pump but a maze of hoses running back and forth. I'll use the stock level sender, and I'll build a sump cup for that as well.

I am going to use your idea for the 1" square tubing and rubber to isolate it and of course the idea for the fill and vent tubes... I LOVE that.

Probably build a few gusseted mounts and use the straps as well. Prob have to build my own straps though. More than likely I'll have to box in the recess for the vent and fill as well as the lift pump/sender.

I do have a question for you though Todd. Would you use the stock vent again as you did, or should I buy a roll-over valve and mount that?

Thanks much for the pic Todd, I really appreciate it.

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by WE3RX7

Its nice to know everybody slacks off once and a while

trans looked like it worked out really well so far, good luck on the final bits!

Yeah but you've been on it for 7 years now! I took a few days

No to mention today I got the entire shop cleaned SPOTLESS, got the girl in and up on stands, got the entire rear suspension striped out as well as the tanks and a few other things as well.... next is to mock up this bitchin' cell then everything can get striped out.

So far so good, my machinist has the housings and he says about a week. He's got a few race engines that need to get gone before he can start on this abortion of a trans project. Then it still needs to be cryo'ed, etc etc. Hopefully Dave can turn that around quick so I can get the tunnel cut and move onto the hurculiner and the lizard skin.

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray

You are a busy man Brian BUT THAT FUCKING TRANNY WILL BE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope so! The ratios on the stocker TII BLOW! So this should be a drastic improvement.

[jtbshaw]

First thing, there's no way that I would waste the time in trying the brake 6061. Even if it worked (visibly), the composition of 6061 is so rigid that I would constantly be concerned with cracks appearing. 5000 series is an improvement for what you are doing, but I would recommend a 4000 series.

As for the straps, with the height measurement of mine, it worked perfectly to use the stock straps in their stock location.

As for the vents....I just kept everything simple....that's pretty much how I have built this entire car (except my ignition...that's my biggest PITA right now...converting a CAS car back to a distributor and going DLIDFIS). I simply used the stock vent system to cut down on more fab work or more time invested. The roll over valves are much more safe, but I am keeping the dual exhaust and didn't like my vent tube to be so close...that's why I removed and sealed that area, and kept the stock vent. I think you should just evaluate your usage for the car, your vents, your exhaust, etc... and see if you feel comfortable with it. the way I have mine now, all I have to do is just connect it to the charcoal cannister and I'm done.

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by jtbshaw

First thing, there's no way that I would waste the time in trying the brake 6061. Even if it worked (visibly), the composition of 6061 is so rigid that I would constantly be concerned with cracks appearing. 5000 series is an improvement for what you are doing, but I would recommend a 4000 series.

I figured that the 6061 would be a little too rigid to brake, especially the size that I'm looking to do, isn't it something like 30-50% the tensile strength of 5052?

Originally Posted by jtbshaw

As for the straps, with the height measurement of mine, it worked perfectly to use the stock straps in their stock location.

I'd love to use the stock straps if I could, or at least the stock mounting locations. I think my problem is going to be the Bosch fuel pump though, the thing is tall! And then there are the fittings on top as well. I suppose I could go with some 90* bulkhead connectors to keep things a little tighter but I've never been a fan of the sharp 90*s but it's far enough downstream that it should work just fine.

Originally Posted by jtbshaw

As for the vents....I just kept everything simple....that's pretty much how I have built this entire car I simply used the stock vent system to cut down on more fab work or more time invested. The roll over valves are much more safe, but I am keeping the dual exhaust and didn't like my vent tube to be so close...that's why I removed and sealed that area, and kept the stock vent. I think you should just evaluate your usage for the car, your vents, your exhaust, etc... and see if you feel comfortable with it. the way I have mine now, all I have to do is just connect it to the charcoal cannister and I'm done.

Well, the way I have it set up now, or had it set up before Alex took his tank back was the stock vent reoriented to discharge on the same axis as the fill/vent tubes. It ran over the top of the tank and went from the 1/4" rubber to a -4 and then followed them up to the fuel door. There in the recess I drilled through and put a -4male to female 1/8" npt with a little stainless sintered filter. So I'm comfortable with the routing of the line as it runs exactely the same way as the factory did. It's well shielded from the exhaust as well. The one thing that worries me about the rollover valve is whether or not it will allow fuel through it if it's sloshing around. Even if it does, it's all downhill from the vent so it'll eventually make it into the tank again.

Charcoal Canister??!??@?!??!? What's that

Originally Posted by jtbshaw

except my ignition...that's my biggest PITA right now...converting a CAS car back to a distributor and going DLIDFIS.

Maybe, but that's pretty bad ass in itself

[jtbshaw]

The roll over vents, at least on my cell and the others that I have used from Jegs, do allow leakage from sloshing. They all have had -8AN male fittings to route the leakage away from the cell, but I never did like that they leaked from sloshing.

You are correct in the increased rigidity of the 6061....I was actually thinking it is right at 40% increase over the 5000 series.

On the fittings, maybe you could come out of the very top of the side so that you wouldn't have to go quite so tall???? Just a thought.

Thanks for the props on the ignition. I have all the parts, but just haven't wrapped my head around the whole thing yet. My concerns all involve the ECU that I have completely removed, along with the engine wiring harness. I'll hit you with a PM and get your thoughts on what I have in my head as to what will work with my blow through setup.

[TitaniumTT]

I did manage to find a -6 roll-over vent, and I'm thinking that it's going to go dead center towards the rear in the tank so it's under the least amount a pressure and will let the least amount of fuel out from sloshing. Then it would have to travel through 4ish feet of -6 line and up 10ish inches before it manages to get out of the vent. Same setup as the stocker tank with the stock vent, and I never had any fuel escape that way. We'll try it and see what happens. I agree 100% though Todd, I'm not liking that it will allow fuel out from sloshing.

The intank surge tank idea is what's really killing the height. I'm going to have the material bent into an L, twice so one piece will be a top and a side, and another will be a bottom and a side. I'll cut a circle into the top and drop a cylinder down into it and weld a flange on the inside. Then continue the cylinder down to the floor of the tank. That will be the surge tank. The Bosch will just drop in and bolt to the internal flange. Before I weld the sides on, I'll have some L channel to weld to the surge tank and to the floor to really keep the whole damn thing in place.

If I were to put the fittings onthe side of the surge tank, internally, I think it would be very difficult to get both the pumps in and out. If they are on the top, I can just undue the hoses, unbolt the cartridge and pull the entire assembly out. I can use some 90* bulkhead connectors for almost all of them accept the vent, that needs to be a welded bung and a 90* fitting otherwise the fitting dropping down into the surge tank won't allow all of the air to be evacuated from the surge tank.

My REAL problem is the connectors that I've been able to find. I have not been able to source a sealed bulkhead connector rated for fuel that connects on a 90* angle. If I could find that I'd be able to drop the height down considerably. The connector that I have from Fuel Safe requires ~2-2.5" of clearance above it. That's what's really killing me.

Let me know how I can help Todd, I'll be more than happy to. The whole blow-through, dizzy setup sounds really badass, and really simple. Even the theme that you told me about sounds great.