FC3S Murray's never ending build.

FC3S Murray · 11-24-2009, 01:52 PM

ANYONE in regards to the endlinks???

***TitaniumTT*** · 11-24-2009, 02:07 PM

The bolt on the control arm can only be one size becuase it's threaded into the arm. I would take which ever end fits more snug and put that on the control arm. Find a snug fitting nut & bolt for the top and have at it.

Honestly though, try driving around with no rear bar. Neither my lifted XJ nor my lowered 7 are running a rear bar and both feel great.

Max777 · 11-24-2009, 06:54 PM

/\ What kind of suspension mods have you done? Do you think that this would be beneficial on a stock suspension? I have heard that it's only worthwhile to do if you modified your suspension a lot. (ie: coilovers, RCA, bushings, etc)

FC3S Murray · 11-25-2009, 06:14 PM

Hey quick question guys: When installing these Energy Suspension bushings, CAN you torque the lower control arm bolts before the FC is on the wheels. I know you dont torque the endlinks till wieght is on the suspension BUT I have found conflicting opinions on the matter.

FC3S Murray · 11-26-2009, 02:49 PM

What do you guys think?? Blitz 01 17x8 17x9. I will powder coat center graphite.

I think I am gonna do it. I may have a buyer for my SSR's

classicauto · 11-26-2009, 04:07 PM

those wheels are sex.

Pure furious animal sex.

FC3S Murray · 11-26-2009, 04:17 PM

I know! They are sweet!!

Hey Classic you have any idea in regards to my bushing/ control arm torque question??

***TitaniumTT*** · 11-26-2009, 10:28 PM

Which bushings in which arms Sean? If they are the front outer bolts on the rear control arms, snug them, but leave them loose, you'll want to be able to get to them when you set your rear toe.

Those were the bushing that I remember seeing last.

I'm digging the wheels.... ALOT

FC3S Murray · 11-26-2009, 10:34 PM

They are the bushings on the front control arms. The two bolts that bolt the U bracket up the the front crossmember and then the long 17mm bolt that passes through the eye/bushing on the front bushing of the FRONT control arm. lol

Yes the wheels are so so nice. Cant wait to buy them.

***TitaniumTT*** · 11-26-2009, 11:18 PM

Gotcha, torque it all down with the car in the air but make sure everything moves smooth.....stiff... but smooth.

FC3S Murray · 11-27-2009, 12:33 AM

Thanks bro!

I hope thanksgiving was good. BTW I showed my cousin, who got me into the rotary scene your little turkey video. He laughed pretty hard, so did my mother and aunt. They cracked up when you yelled. "what the FUCK!" lol

Oh the good old times of family get togethers and large amounts of alcohol.

FC3S Murray · 11-29-2009, 01:21 PM

Anyone know if I can leave this line just hanging? The FSM says it is a check valve for fuel tank de-pressurization. It looks like it just routes from a nipple to the rear fender or pass rear storage bin. Nipple broke off in line when I was torquing my rear SB endlink bolt.

If it just a vent I should be ok BUT want to make sure.

???????????????????????

***TitaniumTT*** · 11-29-2009, 02:12 PM

just a nipple for the ventbro, maybe try cleaning it and then hit it with a little CA glue?

Are you still using your charcoal canister?

Whizbang · 11-29-2009, 02:43 PM

as long as the tip valve thing can function (ie if you roll fuel doesnt come out of it) then i wouldnt be all too worried unless the smell of fuel bothers you.

***TitaniumTT*** · 11-29-2009, 03:04 PM

The tip that broke doesn't have the valve IIRC.... the check ball vavle do hickey is located in top of the tank and the 3 way connector is activated by engine vac.... IIRC... been a LONG time since I had to figure all that out.

I know what I did though, I took that valve in top of the tank and vented it to atmosphere through a sintered filter that I located on top over the fuel fill. I smell ZERO gas.

11-24-2009, 01:52 PM	#286
FC3S Murray frustrated! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montana iTrader: (3) Posts: 611 Rep Power: 16	ANYONE in regards to the endlinks??? __________________ Same pig, new soul

11-24-2009, 02:07 PM	#287
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	The bolt on the control arm can only be one size becuase it's threaded into the arm. I would take which ever end fits more snug and put that on the control arm. Find a snug fitting nut & bolt for the top and have at it. Honestly though, try driving around with no rear bar. Neither my lifted XJ nor my lowered 7 are running a rear bar and both feel great. __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

11-24-2009, 06:54 PM	#288
Max777 Pirate Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central IL iTrader: (5) Posts: 1,323 Rep Power: 18	/\ What kind of suspension mods have you done? Do you think that this would be beneficial on a stock suspension? I have heard that it's only worthwhile to do if you modified your suspension a lot. (ie: coilovers, RCA, bushings, etc) __________________ Rotaries:They are NOT that complicated!

11-25-2009, 06:14 PM	#289
FC3S Murray frustrated! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montana iTrader: (3) Posts: 611 Rep Power: 16	Hey quick question guys: When installing these Energy Suspension bushings, CAN you torque the lower control arm bolts before the FC is on the wheels. I know you dont torque the endlinks till wieght is on the suspension BUT I have found conflicting opinions on the matter. __________________ Same pig, new soul Last edited by FC3S Murray; 11-27-2009 at 01:13 AM..

11-26-2009, 02:49 PM	#290
FC3S Murray frustrated! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montana iTrader: (3) Posts: 611 Rep Power: 16	What do you guys think?? Blitz 01 17x8 17x9. I will powder coat center graphite. I think I am gonna do it. I may have a buyer for my SSR's __________________ Same pig, new soul

11-26-2009, 04:17 PM	#292
FC3S Murray frustrated! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montana iTrader: (3) Posts: 611 Rep Power: 16	I know! They are sweet!! Hey Classic you have any idea in regards to my bushing/ control arm torque question?? __________________ Same pig, new soul

11-26-2009, 10:28 PM	#293
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Which bushings in which arms Sean? If they are the front outer bolts on the rear control arms, snug them, but leave them loose, you'll want to be able to get to them when you set your rear toe. Those were the bushing that I remember seeing last. I'm digging the wheels.... ALOT __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

11-26-2009, 10:34 PM	#294
FC3S Murray frustrated! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montana iTrader: (3) Posts: 611 Rep Power: 16	They are the bushings on the front control arms. The two bolts that bolt the U bracket up the the front crossmember and then the long 17mm bolt that passes through the eye/bushing on the front bushing of the FRONT control arm. lol Yes the wheels are so so nice. Cant wait to buy them. __________________ Same pig, new soul

11-26-2009, 11:18 PM	#295
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Gotcha, torque it all down with the car in the air but make sure everything moves smooth.....stiff... but smooth. __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

11-27-2009, 12:33 AM	#296
FC3S Murray frustrated! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montana iTrader: (3) Posts: 611 Rep Power: 16	Thanks bro! I hope thanksgiving was good. BTW I showed my cousin, who got me into the rotary scene your little turkey video. He laughed pretty hard, so did my mother and aunt. They cracked up when you yelled. "what the FUCK!" lol Oh the good old times of family get togethers and large amounts of alcohol. __________________ Same pig, new soul

11-29-2009, 02:12 PM	#298
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	just a nipple for the ventbro, maybe try cleaning it and then hit it with a little CA glue? Are you still using your charcoal canister? __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

11-29-2009, 02:43 PM	#299
Whizbang Respecognize! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp iTrader: (5) Posts: 3,190 Rep Power: 20	as long as the tip valve thing can function (ie if you roll fuel doesnt come out of it) then i wouldnt be all too worried unless the smell of fuel bothers you. __________________ For current updates and event coverage check out Follow on Twitter! @WhizbangRally Whizbang Rally's Webpage \| Facebook

11-29-2009, 03:04 PM	#300
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	The tip that broke doesn't have the valve IIRC.... the check ball vavle do hickey is located in top of the tank and the 3 way connector is activated by engine vac.... IIRC... been a LONG time since I had to figure all that out. I know what I did though, I took that valve in top of the tank and vented it to atmosphere through a sintered filter that I located on top over the fuel fill. I smell ZERO gas. __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**