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Old 09-01-2009, 10:31 PM   #406
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Rebuilds? yeah no doubt. Races? absolutely. Rebuild races? I never turn down a challenge

Best of luck after you've fitted that corner seal again, or whatever's needed to remedy the clearance. I know you know - but you'll get it. And then you'll give it.......give it hell at the track!!
Yup Joe, turned out to be a corner seal. One was "sticky" when she went together the first time. When I say sticky I mean it just didn't pop up quite as high as the others but still pretty high. I worked that recess and seal with some rubbing compound (becuase I don't have lapping compound) untill it was smooth and thought it good, still not popping up all the way but my thinking was, it's not going to come up that high when the engines assembled. When I pulled her apart tonight there was one seal that wouldn't pop up all the way and there was noticably more carbon build-up on that one. I re-worked that untill it was the smoothest out of all of them and of equal hieght upon release. Then I felt the others that weren't giving any grief when assembled and worked those as well. All total I spent more time moving corner seals than wrenches or parts tonight Tomorrow she gets restacked.

Total time tonight to finish disassembling everything, clean, work the seals and recheck everylast clearance - 3 hours.

Total time this week - 8 hours so far and I'm at the 1/2 wayish point.






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Old 09-01-2009, 11:32 PM   #407
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Lets hope this time she's good - maybe then you can use your new plugs and lay down a silky 380whp
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Old 09-02-2009, 02:49 PM   #408
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I am speechless bro..............BUT am very impressed with the toatal time for this teardown/stack.

You know I had a sticky corner seal on my rear rotor too when I was clearancing side seals. I had to "lightly' dremel that eyelet area until I got it to spring up to a certain comfortable height. I ended up comparing it to the other 2 corner seal eyelets on that face and it still was not as "high" as the other two BUT was way higher then before and didn't stick. I was also convinced it would never reach that height when the keg was torqued so it would be fine.

I need to do my compression test(want to at 500 miles before oil change) BUT I want to do it with a MAZDA tester. I have a standard comp tester and I may just be assuming but wouldn't be harder to notice a drop in compression doing the "3 bounce/pulse" check?
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Yea - catching a sticking corner like what bri had would be hard on a conventional tester, not impossible, but hard.
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Old 09-02-2009, 07:33 PM   #410
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I am speechless bro..............BUT am very impressed with the toatal time for this teardown/stack.

You know I had a sticky corner seal on my rear rotor too when I was clearancing side seals. I had to "lightly' dremel that eyelet area until I got it to spring up to a certain comfortable height. I ended up comparing it to the other 2 corner seal eyelets on that face and it still was not as "high" as the other two BUT was way higher then before and didn't stick. I was also convinced it would never reach that height when the keg was torqued so it would be fine.

I need to do my compression test(want to at 500 miles before oil change) BUT I want to do it with a MAZDA tester. I have a standard comp tester and I may just be assuming but wouldn't be harder to notice a drop in compression doing the "3 bounce/pulse" check?
Definately use a Mazda tester or one of the ones from Rotary Diagnostics. As long as it's electronic, and logging, you should be fine. Dave has the one from Rotary Diagnostics and it's a nice unit without a doubt. I "THOUGHT" I saw a low bounce every once in a while while I was testing but it happens so fast, you cannot be sure.

I had the same concerns as you did with the corner seal not popping up as high and had the same thought, it's not going to reach this height when the keg is torqued so why bother? I pray for you Sean. I hope yours isn't sticking. Sounds like you took away more material than I did though which is probably a good thing. I know I got it this time, I was watching the metal shavings work thier way out of the recess with the rubbing compound and it was by far the smoothest of all of them when I was done.

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Yea - catching a sticking corner like what bri had would be hard on a conventional tester, not impossible, but hard.
You really have to trust yourself. I didn't believe it. I may just buy a digital comp tester one of these days. We'll see. A buddy of mine and I have been kicking around the idea of opening our own shop for quite some time. Maybe we'll grow a really large pair in the near future and actually do it. Would be fun if nothing else.

Alright Gents, I'm heading outside to stack a keg. Hopefully tonight I can get her stacked and get the front cover and oil pan on tonight. Then tomorrow get the rest of the engine together, then stab her in on Friday night and bomb out to Dave's on Saturday and deal with all the name calling that I'm sure will ensue, you sick puppy, you sick motherfucker, what's wrong with you? I dunno, I e-mailed with him a few times today about the trans issue. Apparently he has like 6-7 guys showing up on Sat for the dyno, so we'll see. Doubtfull I'll get any tuning in but it'll still be a nice 300 miles worth of shakedown and a good excuse to go back to Oyster Bay

On another note though, I found out that the WG Actuator rod had managed to slip off the WG levers pin. Which explains why my boost response was slow. The fricken WG was pretty much wide open all the time. Still boosted was just a little slow. I figured it was becuase I was babying her. Now I'm really excited to get her back on the rd....... mmmmmmmm....... rotary boost.
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Got home late, only got about 2 hours in. Engine is stacked, rotates nicely, the front cover and oil pan gasket areas are clean, not installed though. I was afraid that if I did I would get a 4th wind and be up till 3am and that's not cool with work tomorrow. Tomorrow need to fully assemble the engine...... that will be tight.
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*Fingers Crossed*

Good luck... you better reward yourself with some time on the boat this holiday weekend!
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Good luck... you better reward yourself with some time on the boat this holiday weekend!
Nah.... well maybe on Sunday. Gonna reward myself with another trip to Oyster Bay

So I didn't get everything done that I wanted to tonight. Got sidetracked porting the exhaust mani slightly, by porting I mean removing the air injection that I should've done a while ago, chasing a few threads and "adjusting" the studs for the turbo's. Got about 3.5 hours in today all total. All that is left before the engine can go back in is to install the clutch, UIM, Alt, 2-stroke tank and DP, bolt the tranny up and wipe the engine bay down. Tomorrow night I expect about 7 hours all total and finishing her up around midnight or so Depending on when I get home from work, We shall see.

Total time to date - 13.5 hours if my math is right.
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:45 AM   #414
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Damn, you're extremely persistant.
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Do you ever sleep???
Not really, I can think of at least 4 all nighters due to this car this year

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Damn, you're extremely persistant.
Yeah, it's a sickness.

Big night, home early, strait to the shop, lets see what happens
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WOW! This thread has gotten.... pretty long!
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What are you going to do with yourself after the engine this time? when I saw the car at DGRR it looked great.
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More than likely stand around and stare at it with a beer, or maybe liquor, when he's not driving it.... Maybe even possibly break something small on purpose to give himself something to do.
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Yeah I know.... I dunno if I should start a new thread entitled I hope I make it to DGRR '10 or just rename this one

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Thanks. I'll enjoy the car until 11/1

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More than likely stand around and stare at it with a beer, or maybe liquor, when he's not driving it.... Maybe even possibly break something small on purpose to give himself something to do.
There's still a laundry list of things that I want to get finished before I tear her all apart again. Stupid things like
New fuel filter/psi setup
paint the new drivers side A-pillar
get a new wiper switch
plumb up some washers
finish the cut & buff on the hood
glaze and wax the entire car
build an underbelly pan..............
I think that's the list before 11/01

After 11/01 the cars coming down to the bare shell to
take care of some underbody cancer
NEW S5 gas tank
herculine the undercarriage
lizard skin the interior
work the dings in the doors and repaint
do a little re-wiring
new brake setup at all four corners
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6-SPD TRANS!

If there's time I need to build a hitch and an autocross trailer too
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