Starting & turning off the 8 moter.

[rotar bones]

Originally Posted by Sephitrask

I would like to see compression numbers on your engine.

You know I would also. I will in the next few weeks get the compression tested from a friend at Mazda racing and post his official paper here. I am running the mountains again tomorrow. I will try to do this as soon as possible. I believe the compression should be around 60 or so, correct me if I am wrong on that one?. They have the right tester there.

[rotar bones]

Fat fingers oooops! didn't mean to post this, tried to delete but couldn't?.

[WE3RX7]

Originally Posted by rotar bones

I try to address that by running my about up to 8,000 rpm several times during my play time.

2004 Automatic with a 7,500 redline.

[rotar bones]

Originally Posted by WE3RX7

2004 Automatic with a 7,500 redline.

I an take a picture of the dash for youlol lol. Look man don't you ever venture beyond the red line. The red line starts in little lines ......then .....lol lol. Look man not every body follows the rules like you might, that being said I run mine right up to the 8000rpm mark and I know I am close to the rev limiter and who knows the accuracy of any factory gauge?.

I like hearing the bell ring. I might break some thing but unlikely , that may be why they installed a rev limiter, ya think????. If your worried about breaking yours then that's your thing. If I break mine by .../.oh my god ....going over the line on the tachometer , um there is no penality for rining the bell at what ever the factory rev limiter is set at and I would bet if you tested 10 8's on the rev limiter settings ou would get 110 different variances on the test. You make a big deal out of nothing sir. You think what you like sir but I don't really give a hoot. I may push it tomorrow when I run up and down the mountains to see what the rev limiter feels like?

[Fendamonky]

Originally Posted by rotar bones

You seem like a pugilistic type and I only wanted a honest conversation about it, but you seem like an angry guy and honestly guy I would seek some help on that issue ,seriously guy. You sound like you are angry and bragging and not conversing with me. I will just say good luck with your 8 and all your other cars. I am sorry you get so up set and every one is eentitled to their opinion and you have certainly stated yours , good luck sir.

You, sir, strike me as being ignorant of mechanics, rotaries, spelling, and grammar. That, or you're just a troll.

The person you're calling angry is probably one of the most even keel individuals I've run across, both on the forums and in real life.

If you think he's angry than GOD FORBID you ever get corrected by Brian

[rotar bones]

Originally Posted by Fendamonky

You, sir, strike me as being ignorant of mechanics, rotaries, spelling, and grammar. That, or you're just a troll.

The person you're calling angry is probably one of the most even keel individuals I've run across, both on the forums and in real life.

If you think he's angry than GOD FORBID you ever get corrected by Brian

Every one is in titled to their opinion and you have made yours known sir. have you left any more cutting statements out?. You might notice sir I don't attack you for your opinion of me , even though you don't know squat about me either do you?.
There is no reason to call me names, we all have our big boy pants on here. Just chill and get over your self and talk about the thread instead of calling people names ok?. Your friend is a big boy, he probably is ok defending him self if he feels insulted, ya think.

[Fendamonky]

Is English your primary language?

[Notamomcar]

Ok I am new here and easily confused but please help me understand something. I only got my car a month ago. When I was pulling off the lot, the dealer stopped me and told me to make sure I revved the motor to 4 before cutting off. I thought he was full of it and just googled it to see if I found anything. What I found said yes do it or it will flood and only dealer can fix it. I just want to keep my car in as good of shape as possible.... So do I do this or just shut it off like any other car? Sorry!!

[GySgtFrank]

Despite the ongoing battle over this, here's my best advice.

Unless you have a leaky injector, it's not really necessary. The computer is set up by Mazda to provide any shut down and start up fuel cut/addition from the factory. This was something that might be applicable to a carbureted car, or like I said one that has a leaky injector. If you're having flooding issues there is something going on mechanically that should be attended to. But to each his own. I've never had a problem with my transplanted S4 naturally aspirated engine with normal shut down and start up. I trust the engineers at Mazda more than questionable advice from internet sources. If it really bothers you check with Mazda USA for their advice, dealerships may or may not give you good advice.

[Notamomcar]

Thanks!

[RedR1]

Notamomcar: Plus if it hard floods, you can easily fix it. You don't have to tow the car to the dealer. This is assuming you have a 2004/older. Just make sure you have a battery jumper bc sometimes the process will cause the battery may get drained.

pull the fuel pump fuse, #22 if i recall. crank the car for about 5-7 seconds at a time until it doesn't really smell as bad of fuel as it did from the first try. after maybe 10 or so tries, put the fuel pump relay back in and start the car. It should fire right up. sometimes it may take longer.

This is the process we used to unflood my friend's car when it flooded. One of the RX8 specialists in here can clarify or correct me if I got the fuel pump fuse number wrong.

[reddozen]

Honestly, having owned the car for 7 years now, yes, with the factory starter (Pre 2007) and factory ignition coils, I would honestly recommend you do this. The ignition system on the 8 is a joke.

What I would recommend, and it will cost you about $600~650, is to get an LS2 ignition coil upgrade, and make sure that you have the upgraded 2kw starter. With those 2 upgrades, you'll never have to worry about the ignition system again, and you can just crank it like a normal car and go.



Ignition Coils:
Black Halo: $500
http://black-halo-racing.myshopify.c...nition-upgrade

Race Roots: $450
http://raceroots.com/index.php/produ...n-upgrade.html



Starter: (Check yours first before buying another one...)
I recommend only getting this from NAPA. They're about the only store that carries them anymore, and they're about half the price on a reman unit. Make sure to give them your old starter to get your core charge back.

NAPA: $130~$150 (check your local NAPA each store is different)

Manuel:
http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Ca...958_0236307248

Auto:
http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Ca...959_0236307249



Flooding:
As for them saying that the dealer has to deflood it... this is not the case. They just want $80~$100 + towing.

Solution 1:
Hold the gas peddle to the floor and crank the car for 10 seconds, wait a couple seconds, and repeat this operation like 5~6 times. Holding the peddle signals a fuel cut when cranking the car.

Solution 2:
If solution 1 doesn't work, or makes you nervous, pop the hood, open the fuse box cover on the right. pull the yellow 30 amp fuse for the fuel pump. There should be a fuse puller, and fuse diagram inside the fuse box cover. Then just crank the car for 10 seconds with a couple seconds between each crank for 5~6 times. Replace the fuse, start your car, and be on your way.

I've been off an on my way in less than 5 minutes when I've flooded out the car.

Depending on how you drive the car etc. I would recommend a set of spark plugs every year or two. The additional down side to flooding the car is burning out spark plugs. So especially with the factory ignition system, I recommend checking them to see how fouled they are every year or so at least. With my car they last about a year to year and a half. Plus will run you about $90~$100 a set, and O' Reilly is the best local place to get them. They usually have them in stock somewhere close.

[Notamomcar]

Ok my car is an 04 rx8. This is what I was told when I bought it.... When starting, turn key and wait three or four "dings" or bells then start, rev to 4 while shutting off, add Lukas gas treatment to every fill up of only premium gas, and last but not least get up to 7000 rpm atleast once a day to keep carbon from building up. I am doing all this but no idea if I need to lol I have no idea if everything is factory or if anything is upgraded. I did see on the inside of the driver door there is a sticker that says the motor was replaced in 08. Like I said, never even heard of a rotary until a month ago!

[rotar bones]

Originally Posted by Notamomcar

Ok my car is an 04 rx8. This is what I was told when I bought it.... When starting, turn key and wait three or four "dings" or bells then start, rev to 4 while shutting off, add Lukas gas treatment to every fill up of only premium gas, and last but not least get up to 7000 rpm atleast once a day to keep carbon from building up. I am doing all this but no idea if I need to lol I have no idea if everything is factory or if anything is upgraded. I did see on the inside of the driver door there is a sticker that says the motor was replaced in 08. Like I said, never even heard of a rotary until a month ago!

I have been doing what you describe on my 2004 8 for over 81,000 miles with no ill effect and I might add I have never had a flooding of my engine and I also pre-mix.

[reddozen]

Originally Posted by Notamomcar

Ok my car is an 04 rx8. This is what I was told when I bought it.... When starting, turn key and wait three or four "dings" or bells then start, rev to 4 while shutting off, add Lukas gas treatment to every fill up of only premium gas, and last but not least get up to 7000 rpm atleast once a day to keep carbon from building up. I am doing all this but no idea if I need to lol I have no idea if everything is factory or if anything is upgraded. I did see on the inside of the driver door there is a sticker that says the motor was replaced in 08. Like I said, never even heard of a rotary until a month ago!

Premix is a good thing. That will lubricate better, and help minimize carbon build up.

Also good that the motor has already been replaced. 04~06 are bad about compression loss.

If you come out to a meet sometime, it'll be easy to tell you if you have factory coils, or the 1.4kw starter starter.