Upgrading Springs/ shock Combo

Rotary#10 · 11-04-2009, 12:23 PM

Deciding on spring/ shock combo for the 90 FC GTUs. I like the stiff feel of the car. It feels really planted and turns where I tell it to go. im trying to decide either to go with the tanabe GF 265 or the racing beat springs. I do enjoy a nice cruise and spirited driving. Its also a DD. I was thinking of one of those and a set of tokico blues. Anyone have imput on this? I heard good things about these. whats your word?

josh18_2k · 11-04-2009, 01:47 PM

go bilsteins! best affordable shock ever made. they are monotube, and rebuild/revalve is half the price of konis. other brands cant be revalved at all..
no input on springs..

***TitaniumTT*** · 11-04-2009, 02:36 PM

Tockico Blues left me wanting more valving, car rode like crap.

I had a pair of Eibach springs and their rate was too soft for N/A power. Car UNDERsteered horribly with my right foot planted trying to exit a turn. I would go stiffer than Eibach.

FWIW I have a good friend who is a suspension guru and tried desperately to talk me out of a set of Stance C/O's. When he got a ride in them he was pleasantly surprised at the ride quality. Running 7/5 springs and it's a little harsh but liveable

djmtsu · 11-04-2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Tockico Blues left me wanting more valving, car rode like crap.

I have Blues on the Miata with Eibachs. While they are firm, and the car feels great, they are horrible for cruising.

Of course it could be the tiny sidewall on my tires.

Phoenix7 · 11-04-2009, 02:55 PM

+1 on Bilsteins. I like the Eibach springs...nice ride, nice drop. I never felt the car understeer with the eibachs at all. I have them on the NA and TII. RB sways in the TII and Suspension techniques sways in the NA on KYB AGXs (both).

***TitaniumTT*** · 11-04-2009, 04:44 PM

They were firm and good for auto-x but for cruising, especially with the shit roads we had, I found myself getting VERY angry..

I thought the rates in the Eibachs were too soft, especially in the rear. On hard accleration the car would squat enough that the front would lift enough to not let the tires really do thier thing. If you lifted and the car settled or nose dove slightly, traction in the front was restored. This was also on a shimmed S4 diff, I know that had alot to do the the propensity to understeer, but the fact that if you lifted the car would rotate, leads me to believe anyway, that a stiffer rear spring would have made a difference

Phoenix7 · 11-05-2009, 04:21 PM

Can't say I've auto-xed enough to experience that....the only times I've understeered have been coming in too hot or gunning it too early into a turn.

RETed · 11-07-2009, 04:49 AM

I dunno what a "tanabe GF 265" is, but the Tanabe GF210's are...ok.
Problem with these springs is that they are larger diameter than stock springs - this causes headaches when trying to go with wider tires and / or aftermarket wheels; stock wheels with stock sized tires should not pose a problem.

Racing Beat springs are the common upgrade for street set-up's.
Linear rates with a good price make them a popular choice.

Tokico Blues set the standard for upgrade from stock for spirited driving.
You can't go wrong with them for the price.

(I have no idea why people are talking about "race" set-up's when the OP just wanted to upgrade their street car???"

-Ted

Rotary#10 · 11-08-2009, 01:43 PM

I feel set with the stock bbs vert rims and tire size.
Im go with blues and the tanabe 210GF.

RETed-
"(I have no idea why people are talking about "race" set-up's when the OP just wanted to upgrade their street car???" LOL!

FC3S Murray · 11-08-2009, 02:16 PM

tokico Blues with Tanabe GF210's = Very stiff and nice drop, city driving does suck if roads are HORRIBLE. Not too bad if your roads are somewhat smooth.

Curious to see what RB sway bars will make it feel like roll wise??

Rotary#10 · 11-14-2009, 04:45 PM

LOL yeah the roads over here and in SF are horrible. the ride is stiff as is already!

***TitaniumTT*** · 11-14-2009, 05:35 PM

RB front and no rear is my setup Sean. VERY stiff as far as roll is concerned

Flooder · 11-16-2009, 11:21 AM

I had Tanabe GF210's with KYB AGX(adjustable dampening) on my GTUs. It was very stiff when I wanted them to be. But, I have coilovers now and I won't go back to a spring strut combo.

Ted is right though about the GF210's being larger than stock. I ruined one of my front springs at a drift event because of tire rubbing on the spring and heating it up. I had aftermarket wheels on there.

11-04-2009, 01:47 PM	#2
josh18_2k Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Gresham, OR iTrader: (0) Posts: 473 Rep Power: 17	go bilsteins! best affordable shock ever made. they are monotube, and rebuild/revalve is half the price of konis. other brands cant be revalved at all.. no input on springs.. __________________

11-04-2009, 02:36 PM	#3
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Tockico Blues left me wanting more valving, car rode like crap. I had a pair of Eibach springs and their rate was too soft for N/A power. Car UNDERsteered horribly with my right foot planted trying to exit a turn. I would go stiffer than Eibach. FWIW I have a good friend who is a suspension guru and tried desperately to talk me out of a set of Stance C/O's. When he got a ride in them he was pleasantly surprised at the ride quality. Running 7/5 springs and it's a little harsh but liveable __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

11-04-2009, 04:44 PM	#6
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	They were firm and good for auto-x but for cruising, especially with the shit roads we had, I found myself getting VERY angry.. I thought the rates in the Eibachs were too soft, especially in the rear. On hard accleration the car would squat enough that the front would lift enough to not let the tires really do thier thing. If you lifted and the car settled or nose dove slightly, traction in the front was restored. This was also on a shimmed S4 diff, I know that had alot to do the the propensity to understeer, but the fact that if you lifted the car would rotate, leads me to believe anyway, that a stiffer rear spring would have made a difference __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

11-08-2009, 01:43 PM	#9
Rotary#10 Rotorhead Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: "the town " Oakland iTrader: (1) Posts: 219 Rep Power: 17	I feel set with the stock bbs vert rims and tire size. Im go with blues and the tanabe 210GF. RETed- "(I have no idea why people are talking about "race" set-up's when the OP just wanted to upgrade their street car???" LOL! __________________ Currently running: 90 GTUs converted to S5 TurboII. Track car. 90 N/A GTUs.. Running project car 89 N/A GTUs in Black #2 10/6/18 Blown coolant seal undergoing rebuild and restomod.

11-14-2009, 04:45 PM	#11
Rotary#10 Rotorhead Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: "the town " Oakland iTrader: (1) Posts: 219 Rep Power: 17	LOL yeah the roads over here and in SF are horrible. the ride is stiff as is already! __________________ Currently running: 90 GTUs converted to S5 TurboII. Track car. 90 N/A GTUs.. Running project car 89 N/A GTUs in Black #2 10/6/18 Blown coolant seal undergoing rebuild and restomod.

11-04-2009, 12:23 PM	#1
Rotary#10 Rotorhead Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: "the town " Oakland iTrader: (1) Posts: 219 Rep Power: 17	Upgrading Springs/ shock Combo Deciding on spring/ shock combo for the 90 FC GTUs. I like the stiff feel of the car. It feels really planted and turns where I tell it to go. im trying to decide either to go with the tanabe GF 265 or the racing beat springs. I do enjoy a nice cruise and spirited driving. Its also a DD. I was thinking of one of those and a set of tokico blues. Anyone have imput on this? I heard good things about these. whats your word? __________________ Currently running: 90 GTUs converted to S5 TurboII. Track car. 90 N/A GTUs.. Running project car 89 N/A GTUs in Black #2 10/6/18 Blown coolant seal undergoing rebuild and restomod.

11-08-2009, 02:16 PM	#10
FC3S Murray frustrated! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montana iTrader: (3) Posts: 611 Rep Power: 16	tokico Blues with Tanabe GF210's = Very stiff and nice drop, city driving does suck if roads are HORRIBLE. Not too bad if your roads are somewhat smooth. Curious to see what RB sway bars will make it feel like roll wise?? __________________ Same pig, new soul

11-14-2009, 05:35 PM	#12
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	RB front and no rear is my setup Sean. VERY stiff as far as roll is concerned __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

11-16-2009, 11:21 AM	#13
Flooder Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Tucson, Arizona iTrader: (0) Posts: 321 Rep Power: 17	I had Tanabe GF210's with KYB AGX(adjustable dampening) on my GTUs. It was very stiff when I wanted them to be. But, I have coilovers now and I won't go back to a spring strut combo. Ted is right though about the GF210's being larger than stock. I ruined one of my front springs at a drift event because of tire rubbing on the spring and heating it up. I had aftermarket wheels on there. __________________ AZRX7.COM Red 1991 A-package(SOLD) Red 1990 GXL(SOLD) White 1989 GTUs(DEAD) Red 1988 Turbo II(DD) Black 1988 Turbo II(SOLD) Rebuilt and street ported motor, Garrett T04E Turbo, 3" Turbo Inlet Duct/AEM Dry Flow Filter, Your Mom's MBC, Blitz FMIC, 890cc and 1000cc injectors, Tomei FPR, Walbro, Rtek 2.1 ECU, Taurus E-Fan, Turbonetics BOV, 3" Motoria/Corksport Turbo Back Exhaust, Emissions Removed, Greddy Boost Gauge, Megan Racing Water Temp Gauge, 5one5 Triple Gauge Pod, AEM Uego, GP Sports Body Kit, Fiber Images CF Hood, S5 Seats, S5 Tails, S5 Alt, Dual Alt Pulley, D2 Coilovers, NRG Quick Release, Shook Motorsports Radiator, HID's, AN/Steel Braided Oil Cooler Lines, SUPER JDM TYTE DRIFT BUTTON www.DensetsuMotorsports.com www.AZRX7.Com www.FloodersAdventure.com