Help making custom oil lines for turbo

djmtsu · 07-20-2011, 08:28 AM

So, I am scratching my head a little here. I have been searching around for info on how to build, or flat out purchase oil feed/return lines for my 12a turbo project.

Keep in mind, I am NOT using a 13B, and do not have the factory lines at all.

I will get my feed source from my RE-Speed pedestal, return will go to the front cover, in the same place as a stock TII (front cover drilled and tapped).

I am using a stock S4 turbo.

Any info/parts list would be greatly appreciated. This is the last piece of my puzzle.

Please keep in mind I am a cheap bastard, and this is a test project. Not looking to spend a fortune on this

***TitaniumTT*** · 07-20-2011, 09:26 PM

ATP turbo or Verocious Motorsports or someplace like that will have the fitting you need to bolt to the bottom of the turbo for the drain. Then it's just a matter of building a -10 line.

The feed might be a little more difficult. I can't remember if there's an 1/8" npt fitting under there or not, that would be easiest. Otherwise you might need to get a hydraulic shop to silver solder a -4 fitting onto the inlet and run that to your pedastal.

Instead of drilling and tapping the front cover, I would weld a bung onto the front cover instead of tapping it, the AL is a little thin.

FerociousP · 07-21-2011, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

ATP turbo or Verocious Motorsports or someplace like that will have the fitting you need to bolt to the bottom of the turbo for the drain. Then it's just a matter of building a -10 line.

The feed might be a little more difficult. I can't remember if there's an 1/8" npt fitting under there or not, that would be easiest. Otherwise you might need to get a hydraulic shop to silver solder a -4 fitting onto the inlet and run that to your pedastal.

Instead of drilling and tapping the front cover, I would weld a bung onto the front cover instead of tapping it, the AL is a little thin.

He said hes a cheap ass brian...

I have tapped an s5 na cover for the stock turbo return setup and it held ok. I just made sure to watch my torque on those bolts (luckily its only return so they dont have to be super tight). I don't know if the 12a cover has the same thickness casting though

IIRC the restrictor is made into the stock turbo... no other restrictor necessary.

Pete_89T2 · 07-22-2011, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by FerociousP

IIRC the restrictor is made into the stock turbo... no other restrictor necessary.

Not to thread-jack, but can anyone confirm exactly where the restrictor is located on an S5 turbo? Is it in the turbo itself, or is it inside the stock oil inlet pipe somewhere?

Reason I ask is I'm finding a pretty significant amount of clean oil accumulating inside of my IC and IC piping (stock IC) over a short period of time, which leads me to think my turbo is getting too much oil. The turbo is BNR Stage 1 rebuild/hybrid mod setup, that was done in Feb '11, so I assume the turbo is OK.

djmtsu · 07-21-2011, 06:39 AM

The RE Speed pedestal has 2 1/8 fittings on it.

I should have been more clear on the front cover. I am drilling out the hole for the return, and drilling and tapping the two holes for either the stock return fitting, or a T4 flange I am told will work just as well.

I am new to all this fitting lingo. It somehow is confusing to me. Also, will I need a restrictor pill for the feed line?

Garfinkles Motor Works · 07-21-2011, 04:38 PM

I can make the flanges for jit fittings .See my venders section .

N.RotaryTech · 07-21-2011, 07:00 PM

This is what I did, laugh if you want, it works and Lowes is my friend.

These are faucet lines with fittings from the pluming section. Maybe cost me a total of $35.
Feed line.

Coming from the oil pedestal.

S4 13b hi-comp w/T04 series turbo.

85rx-7gsl-se · 07-22-2011, 08:56 AM

I have been running a gslse front cover tapped for the oil return for about 5 years now without issue

N.RotaryTech · 07-23-2011, 12:46 PM

So my faucet oil line has failed, not really bad, but it just started leaking.
It did withstand a little over a 1000 miles of beating on it and made it to Deals Gap and back.

Today I replaced it with fuel hose for now.

Maybe someday ill make proper SS oil lines with AN fittings.

FC Zach · 07-24-2011, 01:50 AM

DJ, we do have a local place. Have you tried Patco? I had a brake line made there for my Kawi when I used a different year swingarm, it wasn't too expensive either. Try them, they have fittings too.

***TitaniumTT*** · 07-24-2011, 08:04 AM

Hydraulic shops are amazing. Just bring the turbo and the a stockish type oil line. I had a shop solder a -6 line onto the twins hardline. Then a -6 to -4 adapter and built the softline myself

djmtsu · 07-24-2011, 10:31 AM

I don't know why I forgot about Patco.

I'll try to stop by there sometime this week.

FC Zach · 07-24-2011, 10:58 AM

Yeah I was there not too long ago and had them make me a clutch line for a motor swap. They put on swivel fittings and gave me extra fittings just in case to complete the job.

07-20-2011, 08:28 AM	#1
djmtsu My minds tellin' me no... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN iTrader: (10) Posts: 4,043 Rep Power: 21	Help making custom oil lines for turbo So, I am scratching my head a little here. I have been searching around for info on how to build, or flat out purchase oil feed/return lines for my 12a turbo project. Keep in mind, I am NOT using a 13B, and do not have the factory lines at all. I will get my feed source from my RE-Speed pedestal, return will go to the front cover, in the same place as a stock TII (front cover drilled and tapped). I am using a stock S4 turbo. Any info/parts list would be greatly appreciated. This is the last piece of my puzzle. Please keep in mind I am a cheap bastard, and this is a test project. Not looking to spend a fortune on this __________________ 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 2003 Toyota Tundra TRD 2015 Toyota 4Runner SR5

07-20-2011, 09:26 PM	#2
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	ATP turbo or Verocious Motorsports or someplace like that will have the fitting you need to bolt to the bottom of the turbo for the drain. Then it's just a matter of building a -10 line. The feed might be a little more difficult. I can't remember if there's an 1/8" npt fitting under there or not, that would be easiest. Otherwise you might need to get a hydraulic shop to silver solder a -4 fitting onto the inlet and run that to your pedastal. Instead of drilling and tapping the front cover, I would weld a bung onto the front cover instead of tapping it, the AL is a little thin. __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

07-21-2011, 06:39 AM	#5
djmtsu My minds tellin' me no... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN iTrader: (10) Posts: 4,043 Rep Power: 21	The RE Speed pedestal has 2 1/8 fittings on it. I should have been more clear on the front cover. I am drilling out the hole for the return, and drilling and tapping the two holes for either the stock return fitting, or a T4 flange I am told will work just as well. I am new to all this fitting lingo. It somehow is confusing to me. Also, will I need a restrictor pill for the feed line? __________________ 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 2003 Toyota Tundra TRD 2015 Toyota 4Runner SR5

07-21-2011, 07:00 PM	#7
N.RotaryTech Home-brew Rotary Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: GooseCreek SC iTrader: (0) Posts: 552 Rep Power: 17	This is what I did, laugh if you want, it works and Lowes is my friend. These are faucet lines with fittings from the pluming section. Maybe cost me a total of $35. Feed line. Coming from the oil pedestal. S4 13b hi-comp w/T04 series turbo. __________________ '89 RX7 GTU, half-Bridge-port S4/S5 NA, E6K, Full RB exhaust, weekend warrior. '83 RX7, The "this might take awhile" project. '87 RX7 GXL, Rest In Pieces. '98 Subaru Impreza Outback-sport, rx7 rescue vehicle, down for repair. '94 Ford Ranger, daily.

07-23-2011, 12:46 PM	#9
N.RotaryTech Home-brew Rotary Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: GooseCreek SC iTrader: (0) Posts: 552 Rep Power: 17	So my faucet oil line has failed, not really bad, but it just started leaking. It did withstand a little over a 1000 miles of beating on it and made it to Deals Gap and back. Today I replaced it with fuel hose for now. Maybe someday ill make proper SS oil lines with AN fittings. __________________ '89 RX7 GTU, half-Bridge-port S4/S5 NA, E6K, Full RB exhaust, weekend warrior. '83 RX7, The "this might take awhile" project. '87 RX7 GXL, Rest In Pieces. '98 Subaru Impreza Outback-sport, rx7 rescue vehicle, down for repair. '94 Ford Ranger, daily.

07-21-2011, 04:38 PM	#6
Garfinkles Motor Works RCC Contributor Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (11) Posts: 535 Rep Power: 17	I can make the flanges for jit fittings .See my venders section .

07-24-2011, 01:50 AM	#10
FC Zach RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eagleville, TN iTrader: (2) Posts: 2,267 Rep Power: 19	DJ, we do have a local place. Have you tried Patco? I had a brake line made there for my Kawi when I used a different year swingarm, it wasn't too expensive either. Try them, they have fittings too. __________________ 1993 Yamaha GTS1000 1992 Celica Turbo AllTrac 1987 RX7 Sport 1979 Yamaha G1, KM24 powered 1975 Dolmar KMS4

07-24-2011, 08:04 AM	#11
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Hydraulic shops are amazing. Just bring the turbo and the a stockish type oil line. I had a shop solder a -6 line onto the twins hardline. Then a -6 to -4 adapter and built the softline myself __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

07-24-2011, 10:31 AM	#12
djmtsu My minds tellin' me no... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN iTrader: (10) Posts: 4,043 Rep Power: 21	I don't know why I forgot about Patco. I'll try to stop by there sometime this week. __________________ 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 2003 Toyota Tundra TRD 2015 Toyota 4Runner SR5

07-24-2011, 10:58 AM	#13
FC Zach RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eagleville, TN iTrader: (2) Posts: 2,267 Rep Power: 19	Yeah I was there not too long ago and had them make me a clutch line for a motor swap. They put on swivel fittings and gave me extra fittings just in case to complete the job. __________________ 1993 Yamaha GTS1000 1992 Celica Turbo AllTrac 1987 RX7 Sport 1979 Yamaha G1, KM24 powered 1975 Dolmar KMS4