Supra TX2k8 60 -130

[cewrx7r1]

From 23 March (Sunday) Supra TX2K8 60 - 130 mph (96.5-209.2 kph) event that was held at Lonestar Motorsports Park. Time in seconds.

3.93 - WINNER, 97 Supra auto drag car, drag tires, 1.9sec 60-100

Rest on street tires
6.68 - modified Porsch 996 GT2
6.90 - modified Porsch 996 TT, 3sec 60-100
7.37 - twokrx7, 93 RX-7 FD with modified LS1 with NOS 606whp, 3.3sec 60-100
7.5x - 07 Z06, had tire slippage, 3.6sec 60-100
7.55 - Procharge 01 Z06, about 700whp, old tires would not hook up
9.54 - Dr. Chris, local ex RX-7 owner, modified 01 Porsche 996 TT, 4.2sec 60-100
10.30 - cewrx7r1 92 RX-7 FD, stock intake ports, mild exhaust port,
GT35R 1.06 T3 turbo, 15 psi boost. Never dynoed. 4.4sec 60-100
10.52 - Supra TT, 400whp, 5.5sec 60-100
10.62 - 01 Z06 auto
12.2 - terry ward, 5.5sec 60-100
************************************************** *****
Below are some posted 60 -130 times taken from the 6speed website)
for some Porsches.

5.9x - VRAlexander / Protomotive 1,000+ HP TT (AWD @ 1.3 BAR) / AX-22
6.15 - DMK / EVOMS 800+ HP TT (RWD) / Driftbox
6.6x - Jean / 3.8L 993 TT (RWD) / AX-22
7.8 - Chris Stewart 3.6 60-100
7.93 - KPG / Ultimate MotorWerks 640 HP TT (AWD) / Driftbox
8.10 - 9Eleven / Orton 530 HP GT2 / Driftbox
8.76 - Scotty slc / Techart 510 + EVO V-Flow (AWD) / Driftbox
9.10 - Bill S / 993 Ruf R Turbo 490 HP / AX-22
9.56 - Topgun / X50 TT with Revo software (AWD) / Driftbox
10.96 - Woodster / Orton ECU & exhaust TT (AWD) / AX-22

For the sake of comparison, here are some 60-130 times for some fast production cars with appoximate hp.

6.1 - Saleen S7 Twin Turbo (750 bhp)
6.9 - Mosler MT900S
7.0 - Ferrari Enzo (651 bhp)
7.3 - Porsche Carrera GT (605 bhp)
8.9 - Mercedes SLR McLaren (617 bhp)
9.1 - Porsche 993 RUF Turbo R (100 octane) (490bhp stock)
9.2 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06
9.4 - Lamborghini Diablo VT 6.0 (550 bhp)
9.5 - Ferrari F430 (483 bhp)
10.9 - Lamborghini Murcielago (571 bhp)
11.7 - Ferrari Challenge Stradale (425 bhp)
12.1 - Lamborghini Gallardo (492 bhp)
12.2 - Porsche 996 TT (480 bhp)

[cewrx7r1]

Updated the results with lastest data.

[RICE RACING]

Good thread,

Is it just me? or do Mazda people not give a shit about this kind of performance testing

I have been using Race Logic VBOX3 and 3i for years and developed more applicable testing standards that many can do with minimal "risk" (90-140kmh 3rd gear tests) ideal for our cars (any Mazda fitted with OEM 5 speed turbo box). Much more interesting as it shows up many more things like usable power band of the engine (typically ~4000rpm to ~8000rpm) and gets rid of variables like shifting times etc, good to even show chassis ability to transfer power if you are exceeding practical limits of 2wd and street tires, not to mention real world power test! not artificial dyno test...

Have a read of my data I have collected here > http://www.riceracing.com.au/vbox-ii...ing-tuning.htm

Once you do allot of this work you quickly see what the real benefit of a good spread of power is v's a dyno queen set up, not to mention things like the chassis being able to use the power you have too. I still find it amazing people are so backwards in their understanding of how cars work and using proper tests to quantify it all.

At least people have started to use proper instruments to "test" with.

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by cewrx7r1

From 23 March (Sunday) Supra TX2K8 60 - 130 mph (96.5-209.2 kph) event that was held at Lonestar Motorsports Park. Time in seconds.

3.93 - WINNER, 97 Supra auto drag car, drag tires, 1.9sec 60-100

Rest on street tires
6.68 - modified Porsch 996 GT2
6.90 - modified Porsch 996 TT, 3sec 60-100
7.37 - twokrx7, 93 RX-7 FD with modified LS1 with NOS 606whp, 3.3sec 60-100
7.5x - 07 Z06, had tire slippage, 3.6sec 60-100
7.55 - Procharge 01 Z06, about 700whp, old tires would not hook up
9.54 - Dr. Chris, local ex RX-7 owner, modified 01 Porsche 996 TT, 4.2sec 60-100
10.30 - cewrx7r1 92 RX-7 FD, stock intake ports, mild exhaust port,
GT35R 1.06 T3 turbo, 15 psi boost. Never dynoed. 4.4sec 60-100
10.52 - Supra TT, 400whp, 5.5sec 60-100
10.62 - 01 Z06 auto
12.2 - terry ward, 5.5sec 60-100
************************************************** *****
Below are some posted 60 -130 times taken from the 6speed website)
for some Porsches.

5.9x - VRAlexander / Protomotive 1,000+ HP TT (AWD @ 1.3 BAR) / AX-22
6.15 - DMK / EVOMS 800+ HP TT (RWD) / Driftbox
6.6x - Jean / 3.8L 993 TT (RWD) / AX-22
7.8 - Chris Stewart 3.6 60-100
7.93 - KPG / Ultimate MotorWerks 640 HP TT (AWD) / Driftbox
8.10 - 9Eleven / Orton 530 HP GT2 / Driftbox
8.76 - Scotty slc / Techart 510 + EVO V-Flow (AWD) / Driftbox
9.10 - Bill S / 993 Ruf R Turbo 490 HP / AX-22
9.56 - Topgun / X50 TT with Revo software (AWD) / Driftbox
10.96 - Woodster / Orton ECU & exhaust TT (AWD) / AX-22

For the sake of comparison, here are some 60-130 times for some fast production cars with appoximate hp.

6.1 - Saleen S7 Twin Turbo (750 bhp)
6.9 - Mosler MT900S
7.0 - Ferrari Enzo (651 bhp)
7.3 - Porsche Carrera GT (605 bhp)
8.9 - Mercedes SLR McLaren (617 bhp)
9.1 - Porsche 993 RUF Turbo R (100 octane) (490bhp stock)
9.2 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06
9.4 - Lamborghini Diablo VT 6.0 (550 bhp)
9.5 - Ferrari F430 (483 bhp)
10.9 - Lamborghini Murcielago (571 bhp)
11.7 - Ferrari Challenge Stradale (425 bhp)
12.1 - Lamborghini Gallardo (492 bhp)
12.2 - Porsche 996 TT (480 bhp)

60-130mph = 8.62 seconds VBOX3i and IMU, air strip test, back to back runs two way average.
RICESP ~20psi T04Z stock motor, full catalyst exhaust, street tires & Pump petrol! WATER INJECTED !!!
http://www.riceracing.com.au/RiceSPGallery.htm

Will test again soon at higher power setting

[My5ABaby]

So he goes from 60-130 about twice as fast as I go 0-60... ridiculous.

[RICE RACING]

Everyone should go out and buy a Racelogic Performance box (entry level unit) as used in that competition, they are a great tool, invaluable in setting up your car and actually measuring what it will do on the road.

I said before, it seems that mazda rotary people are the only ones who just don't get it when it comes to this kind of thing, either they seem to be too poor or too ignorant/opinionated about this kind of thing?

On that 6speed forum and many others people gag over these kinds of tests and every man and his dog has one of these meters to test their cars basically each time they drive them best thing about them is you can compare yourself to all the other real sports cars out there (factory supercars) as pretty much any decent magazine or on-line based rag who reviews cars uses the same equipment.

GET OUT THERE AND BUY ONE AND TEST! Lets get our own list of cars happening and show these cunts how good the rotary can be

[My5ABaby]

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

Everyone should go out and buy a Racelogic Performance box (entry level unit) as used in that competition, they are a great tool, invaluable in setting up your car and actually measuring what it will do on the road.

Only $530, I'll hop right on that.

[TitaniumTT]

Same thing can be accomplished with an ECU with datalogging, a wheel speed sensor and an accelerometer. I just don't have the accelerometer. I do agree though... real world testing is paramount.

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Same thing can be accomplished with an ECU with datalogging, a wheel speed sensor and an accelerometer.

Similar yes, same no.

^ No official certifiable speed measure, no slope measure (incline decline), so its open to abuse from users (intentional or not) thus I would not accept any "measures" done by this method.

[vex]

Are you referring to these?
http://www.performancebox.co.uk/onlineshop.html

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by vex

Are you referring to these?
http://www.performancebox.co.uk/onlineshop.html

Yes.

The Race Logic performance box is the best bang for buck unit, no excuses to not own one

If people get one of these I am happy to be the "moderator" for all records posted by people and we can start up our own OFFICIAL 60-130mph thread for rotaries

[TitaniumTT]

Datalogs






So if I gave you the seconds it took of a datalog of a 3rd gear run from say 4-8k and the weight of my car you could get a hp?

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Datalogs






So if I gave you the seconds it took of a datalog of a 3rd gear run from say 4-8k and the weight of my car you could get a hp?

The only variables that wont be addressed are

*Pitch factor (varies across power curve as chassis squats) not just a general offset like some rubbish meters use lol based on acel only data measures.
*Weight
*Slope
*Rolling resistance
*Intertia
*Air resistance

If you give me all those I can work it out for you.

The first is the biggest problem with using an accelarometer! I only use an accelarometer as a correction for noisey GPS derived acceleration as its not effected by vehicle pitch. The other stuff I can make an assumption for but its best to do a coast down test on each specific vehicle.

It is complex, I list the formula I developed myself on my own web site. I can measure power far better than what even RL offer as a token feature on their own Performance Box but you need to know what you are doing.

I have a friend in Europe who uses a Pectel with some extra inputs to do similar to what I can but its just nota as good for the factors I described above.

For anyone buying a performacne box I can give you the forumla for a nominal fee and teach you haw to use it its a very handy thing to have to monitor the power of your car over a race or in real world, even on 10hz data its still a very usefull tool.

[TitaniumTT]

For what it does, it's really not that bad. Watch Supercars on Speed Monday night at 10 or 11. It's what they use for their head to head comps.

[My5ABaby]

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

For what it does, it's really not that bad. Watch Supercars on Speed Monday night at 10 or 11. It's what they use for their head to head comps.

Yeah... I paid $1600 for my car...