SCAMMED by Mazport Scott (story from RX8club)

[Rotorhead John]

Hey guys,

I saw this on the 8club and I would hate for this to happen to any other rotor heads so just posting a friendly heads up.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=158377

Originally Posted by stickmantijuana

I chose my words carefully. I've been scammed by Scott @ Mazsport. It's been two years, and although some months may not be entirely accurate (it's been awhile), I included them so people can get the picture. Fact is, it was taking over 2years, and when I towed the car back, it wasn't even half done.

8/2006 - Scott began calling me up and telling me he's interested in doing 3 rotor swap on my car. He tells me it'll cost $25,000 - $30,000 with all bells & whistles (dry sump, roll cage, turbo, 20b, pushing the engine back & low, etc. etc.). and tells me it will take about 2 MONTHS. I agreed, then paid $10,000 down to "lock down my spot".
9/2006 - I drove the car down to FL and dropped my car off.
10/2006 - I call for an update. They say they're really swamped developing turbo kits & getting ready for some rotary meet. I asked them to send me some photos of what they have for my 3 rotor. Scott is now apparently TOO BUSY to talk to me on the phone for 5 seconds.
11/2006 - I'm now calling probably every 2-3 days and at least once a week because I haven't seen / heard any update for my car. I did talk to Scott once or twice this entire month--he then told me he's building a kick-ass engine with 13b housings & new rotors & new e-shaft.
12/2006 - Scott finally calls me and tells me he needs more money ($15,000) and gives me a deadline date - February/2006. He tells me engine is built and he spent all the money. He then proceeds to tell me to delete some mildly negative comments I've made on my thread about his dragging his ass-- I deleted them.
2/2007 - Scott says engine placement is like a midengine slotcar. Asks me another month to finish the job then asked for $2000 more to make an intake manifold. I pay the $2000 then bought my plane ticket for 3/2006 to tampa, FL to go pick up the car.
3/2007 - The entire week before my flight, Scott is unreachable. Betsey tells me the car's not ready. I scrap my flying plans. Scott then sends me some photos of the engine in the engine bay pretending like nothing happened. It was still snowing in PA and I told myself, I can wait until it stops snowing. Scott asks for more money at this point, and I said we're over budget already, and just finish it.
** at this point, only the engine was in the engine bay--
5/2007 - Scott says manifold took forever, but things are moving along. I request for another deadline, and he says 7/2006, and I buy another plane ticket. He then promises to keep me updated at least once a week, which he does so for ONE week then promptly forgot every single Friday thereafter.
7/2007 - Still not done-- in the meanwhile, I receive some photos of oil pan and turbo to keep me quiet on the forum. He also e-mails me that he'll work on it everyday and will have an update or me every Friday again and again--which never came true.
**at this point, I'm getting pissed off every week with Scott's lack of communication and utter lack of any respect for my time. Betsey would frequently tell me Scott will call after 5pm, makes me wait around until 7-8pm after which I figure out again and again he's not calling.
And this weekly routine continues until his name on the forum is in jeopardy with some posts. He then calls and gives me some fluke deadline, which he denies later on the phone telling me that he NEVER gives a deadline because he doesn't want to disappoint his customers when the date is not kept. I'm thinking this guy is an idiot if he wants me to buy that "argument".
12/2007 - I tell him to just make the car run. I also tell him I don't give a shit what he does to it as long as it runs. He tells me he needs more money and I tell him he's already over budget and asked for an INVOICE to see where the money went. Scott NEVER gives me an invoice--in fact according to him, there has been so much work done on my car that for the past 8 months, he's been working on my invoice.
5/2008 - I started up some thread on the forum, and Scott & Betsey immediately lie to me telling me that my exhaust pipe is finished. Asked me to delete the thread, which I did.
8/2008 - I ask for update, and for 10 months, Scott tells me he's been working on the fuel rail because the upper manifold is too low. I demand an invoice and told him I'd like to tow the car back.
9/2008 - Invoice is still not ready. When the truck driver called to confirm the pick-up, Scott tells him to come back later. I payed re-schedule fee, then demanded that Scott have my car on the truckbed next time truck shows up.
** at the vehicle delivery, I find that my car has been ripped up inside and out. Scott sold LOT of my OEM stuff and ALL my aftermarket engine stuff. Engine mounts weren't even in. Fuel modules, all sensors, fans, coolers, etc. etc. I had are all gone. There's NOTHING after the downpipe which is hitting the subframe incidentally. I call him up immediately and tell him I'll be starting up a thread about this transaction. Scott then immediately tells me that he'll make it right.
10/2008 - Every week, I get the same bullshit from him. First package had shifter knob and a BROKEN fuel pump. I finally receive that invoice he's been working on for past 10 months.

hey and here's what I received (these include the labor):
$800 for PREPARING the car for installs
$7922.83 for MOUNTS & PPF
$12,300 for 20b
$250 for radiator MOUNT
$867.61 for FUEL RAIL (doesn't even have secondary rail)
$850 for USED Rx7 tranny (not rebuilt) with NO shifter & no gear selector linkage
$981.54 for INJECTORS
$1950.91 for "performance clutch"
$3404.28 for INTAKE TUBES!
$2185.26 for EXHAUST MANIFOLD
$3200.80 for Gt42R turbo & v-clamps
$804.00 for OIL PAN

and here's the best part:
$1445.00 for THINKING about some exotic traction control that wasn't even installed or fab'd.
$450 for REMOVING my OWN fuel tank & working fuel pump that I needed (NO replacement in the car)
$675.00 for roll cage design & dynamat that aren't even in the car

then they decided to generously credit me for all aftermarket stuff that they sold off the car (after taking off 30% for their ebay listing service) and applied ALL the credit toward Scott's paycheck WITHOUT my permission. I still haven't heard anything about missing OEM parts or my aftermarket stuff I can still use with 20b.

I'm still waiting for Scott to send me my RX8 oem parts, 20b oem parts, and stuff he charged me for already like the shifter linkage, mounts, etc, which I still don't have. He's dragging it again.

SCOTT, EXACTLY HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO BOX UP SOME STUFF I WAS ALREADY CHARGED FOR MORE THAN 2 YEARS AGO AND SEND IT VIA UPS GROUND??? According to him, he's still "unpacking" and still "looking for my stuff". I just had it with his lies and two faced responses on the forum. He tries so hard to appear legitimate on the forum, but many others (myself included) have had horrendous experiences with Mazsport Scott. He will keep giving you excuses of "doing it right takes time" to which I agree to certain extent. But over 1yr for turbo installs and over 2yrs for hacked up uncompleted project that was promised to be done in 2months is pushing it greatly.

I'll attach some photos of what I got AFTER paying Mazsport $38122.23 ON TOP of already fully tuned Greddy turbo 300whp rx8.

[Phoenix7]

I've been waiting for scott to post. I was sorely disappointed by his reply on the subject.

Anyone wanna bet how long it will take IB to get rid of this guy?

[alnielsen]

Originally Posted by phoenix7

Anyone wanna bet how long it will take IB to get rid of this guy?

IB is in it for the money. If Mazsport goes away, it will be a decision of Scott's.

[Rotorhead John]

The matter must reach IB first so I would say... a month?

[Phoenix7]

Optimistic huh?

What kills me is that he DROVE it in.

[IH8DSM]

take him to court

[Whizbang]

wow....hell with that

[RX7_GRL]

ouch, i feel so bad for the guy...

[Rotorhead John]

$3404.28 for INTAKE TUBES!

That's just... stupid... major scammage right there.

[VR8]

Am I being naive about the cost of 20b conversions here or what....what kind of person agrees to pay that IN THE FIRST PLACE? Some responsibility should be on the part of the consumer too. I would have looked at that advertisement and just laughed assuming it was some sort of spoof ad.

[Herblenny]

This reminds me of my situation with a carbon fiber BS..

All I can say is Stick has a right to take legal action and someone needs to learn a lesson. Its seems that this is a common practice for some vendors.. take on a job they can't handle and then work on something else and collect money... BS... Where are the work ethic??

[Jedi54]

good to see this posted here as well, Rotor heads need to stick together and know what's going on out there.

sad to see this happen to anyone, but this is what made me almost spit out my drink!

$1445.00 for THINKING about some exotic traction control that wasn't even installed or fab'd.

[Jedi54]

The original thread was locked but the topic has started up again (with permission from the admins)

Scott has also surfaced and posted a response (post #46)
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=158568

[Herblenny]

Jedi54,

If people want to go all out about Mazsport and rx8club isn't letting you, come over here!

I'm a firm believer of spreading the word to as many people as possible and would even sticky this situation if brought over...

PHIL

[Phoenix7]

I really would like to know what excuses are being used on MAZSPORT'S side to justify the length of time the OP waited and the incomplete project he received that he was charged UP THE WAZOO for....