543rwhp dyno

[Turblown]

Recent dyno from a customer of ours. Not bad for a little 61mm turbo! Picked up 38rwhp from just our latest compressor wheel revision.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnV3Q...0h-RGUHrOnJyGQ

[TheAsset]

Wow that's impressive!

[RICE RACING]

Strap a VBOX to it and lets see some real numbers !
Add it to my FAST FD thread

[chibikougan]

What VBOX do you recommend the average poofter?

Standard unit then add peripherals as needed?

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by chibikougan

What VBOX do you recommend the average poofter?

Most people cannot even afford the lowest specificiation VBOX, so I suggest to most people to by the "retail market' Performance Box or Drift Box.

smg944 on here uses one and me and him have the fastest legitimate FD's in the world

it is real easy to work out the real power of your car, and its backed up with reality in the speeds and times to cover a known test,(see fast FD thread).

I have done more than anyone on the std 13B-REW platform and there is no way in hell you can make the power above on 24psi boost, thus my comment on BS American dyno numbers.

To give you an idea on ~30psi boost (@ sea level) with WM50 and engine calibrated to the peak of what is possible I make ~ 470rwhp or about 565bhp @ the engine. And the performance has never been matched by anyone except smg944 (Steve) though he is on C16 for his highest performance levels.

The bullshit stops and the bar gets set when you actually test a car the legitimate way and it can be repeated by anyone around the world, its not hard to find a flat stretch, borrow a Performance Box and test your car 90kph-140kph in 3rd gear or 100kph to 200kph. Get the times and I will run the calc and tell you exactly how much power it has

And it can join the list of FAST FD's http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=14704

p.s. Not having a go at anyone here, its just a statement of fact that USA typical 'dyno figures' are 100% certified bullshit LOL, none of them match reality when you do the physics behind how fast the car should be ........... which none of them by matter of fact are LOL. Had this 'debate on pay to play hack tuning school and even the paying vendors could not explain why they cant give real figures or be repeatable LOL....

I have seen this too much over the years, this is why the bullshit stops when the VBOX drops ! test it and lets see what it really has in reality... FACT V's FICTION as my mate Howard Coleman says LOL.


This Car here should be as fast or faster than mine on the same 24psi, same 100% stock standard 13B, with pissy little Intercooler, given its got ALOT more power ?
I was @ (on peak! average was lower ~300rwkw) 310rwkw ~415rwhp or around 499bhp @ the engine. This is the absolute maximum you can hope to make
100kph-200kph
RICE RACING - 6.25 sec - 93 oct water injected 24psi run stock standard 13B-REW http://www.aquamist.co.uk/vbulletin/...t=1590&page=20
90kph-140kph 3rd gear
RICE RACING - 2.26 sec - 93 oct water injected 24psi run stock standard 13B-REW

[RICE RACING]

Here is realistically what power this engine set up should make, this is reality though not dynojet figures lol.
Based on engineering facts, best way to counter this is test the car, and I will happily eat shit if proven wrong............ I wont be though LOL.

I am being optimistic here too for you as peak power on these ports typically is at 6700rpm or so, regardless sometimes you can get a peak at 7000rpm so helping you out here.

There is no way in fuck you can make 540rwhp on that set up, its not possible at all with what you are running, and this will be shown when you actually test the car on a track and we work out the power in real life with physics not a guessing machine DJ lol.



and at a bit leaner setting

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by chibikougan

What VBOX do you recommend the average poofter?

Standard unit then add peripherals as needed?

You can buy a Performance box and a basic input module and do stuff like this easy (was recorded with a VBOX Mini and MIM01).



Here is the fact v fiction ANALysis that goes along with the above The one the only, widely copied, NEVER EQUALED !!!
No Howard Coleman one line spaced un readable calculations LOL! Only stuff that works and does not blow up every second day LOL

[JhnRX7]

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

Strap a VBOX to it and lets see some real numbers !
Add it to my FAST FD thread

He can't... The motor blew up on that dyno pull (or the next one).

I know the owner, if he decides to rebuild it then I can lend him my performance box.

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by JhnRX7

He can't... The motor blew up on that dyno pull (or the next one).

I know the owner, if he decides to rebuild it then I can lend him my performance box.

Shit........... that is no good.

All too common a thing though its why you see so few RX7's around, its not easy making high power and keeping them alive.

Let him know though and when he is ready I'll be happy to run some numbers over it and see where it fits on our list.

[RENESISFD]

It blew up using WI as well. I wonder if be was not injecting enough or if the problem lies elsewhere. 2mm stock 2pc seals.

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by RENESISFD

It blew up using WI as well. I wonder if be was not injecting enough or if the problem lies elsewhere. 2mm stock 2pc seals.

There are many causes.
Stock 2mm apex seals don't have a power limit, but they do have a detonation limit.
Detonating a motor can be caused by many many things.

#1 is wrong timing use
#2 wrong ECU
#3 wrong spark plugs
#4 wrong fuel settings
#5 too much or too little water injection
#6 taking advise off Howard Coleman & or Brian D Cain

Not in any particular order either.

Like I say to anyone who cares if they think this is 'easy' to achieve your answer is in how many you see out on the street or at events at this level.

Not many can do it end of story.
Lots of people fall into the trap of letting the motor tune them rather than the other way around.......... and its all too easy to chase a dyno figure rather than make a car fast and reliable.

[JhnRX7]

He has a pre-turbo mechanical WI setup and was using 50/50 Water/meth I believe.

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

#1 is wrong timing use
#2 wrong ECU
#3 wrong spark plugs
#4 wrong fuel settings
#5 too much or too little water injection
#6 taking advise off Howard Coleman & or Brian D Cain

Not in any particular order either.

What is your opinion on Adaptronic ECU's...?

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by JhnRX7

He has a pre-turbo mechanical WI setup and was using 50/50 Water/meth I believe.



What is your opinion on Adaptronic ECU's...?

There is too much to give a general comment on, you don't even know where to start but I'm sure lots of 'theories' will get thrown about.

I have never used an Adaptronic ECU so I can not comment on them.

[TheAsset]

Originally Posted by RENESISFD

It blew up using WI as well. I wonder if be was not injecting enough or if the problem lies elsewhere. 2mm stock 2pc seals.

Any idea on how much he was injecting?

[RXtacy]

From his build thread it looks like 750cc.