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Old 10-16-2009, 07:25 AM   #532
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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT View Post
I would say that 11.5 to one is a tad too rich. My EMS guy and I had a very interesting conversation about this on Tuesday.... he by the way does the setup and engine dyno's, or did rather, for Perez Here's what he had to say about running too fat dumb and happy.... in a nut-shell, paraphrased, and I'd also like to add that this is ONE reason I think these engines spontaneously detonate.
Basically by running TOO rich you are leaving unburnt fuel in the combustion chamber, hanging on the rotor, seals, maybe even the housing surface itself. This is fuel, it's partially or completely vaporized and just waiting to be ignited. It's in the perfect environment as well. With the opening of port, incomes more oxygen, and all it needs is a little too much heat, or some exhaust gases to sneak by through the overlap or the trailing sparkplug hole and BAM - autoignition and bye bye.... game over. Is this likely to happen @ 11.5? Probably not unless your plugs are crap but how many people run around in the 9's and 10's? ALOT, how many people pop engines? What are the circumstances behind them? I'd love to study a TON of datalogs from blown engines and see if there is a pattern developing.

Of course he finished this off with..... I've never tuned a rotary to be street driven before though. My world with Rotaries starts @ C16 The guy has an impressive resume though. Alot of big name guys both piston and rotary, drag, circuit and road race all go to him so I think we'll make one pull at .825 and then go right back to .8
I know it is rich but I have two reasons why I think it is safe for me: 1) All we have in MT is good old 91 octane....fun shit. 2) I understand your reasoning with the small amount of unburnted gas from overly-rich conditions and the extra added exhast gas from overlap BUT I would think that the small amount of unburnt gas even if ignited would not be suffiecient or have enough energy too actually cause lethal detonation. Plus, wouldn't the extra fuel actually cool the chamber(although not wise to use an flammable source to cool a piping hot metal chamber) I could be wrong BUT I also am very conservative with AFR's because that is what the "mob" recommends.

I hope random engine popping isn't casued from being conservative
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