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Originally Posted by Flooder

That's not true at all. If you had ever bought coilovers, you would know that you can specify your spring rates if you want, and yes, get this, for free.

With the Stances you can specify a rate between 5/5 and 12/12 and any combination in between, so it helps to take a ride in the same model car with the same spring rates that you are currrently considering. In Joe's case, that would be my car as I have the Stance GR+Pro's with the 7/5 spring combo on it. Just for giggles, I bought them from Rishie as well.

Originally Posted by classicauto

I should've taken a ride in your frankenwankel Brian, I'm in the market for suspension now due to age of my current stuff, and am talking to Rishie about a set of stance with 7/5k springs......i'm a huge non fan of coilovers for street use from the past experiences I had with tein, hks and a few cheapie-sheepie's like the ground control sluts.

I'm hopeful that the lightest springs available from stance will satisfy my needs. My needs being:

Tolerable ride ie. no tossing the car around on groovey pavement or able to feel the DNA of the ants you run over
Improved handling/less body roll over the tockio blue and eibach combo i've rocked for half a decade.

I'll tell you these few little bits of information, Joe,

I rocked the same Tockico/Eibach setup for 8-9 years maybe and towards the end, started to hate it. The dampening wasn't the greatest and they did tend to jar you around on some of the shittier roads. The spring rates in the rear were way too damn light even under N/A power. I could slam the gas, lift the nose to the point of understeer. I had to then quickly stab the brake to get the nose to bite, turn and ease onto the gas. I was also running a modified S4 clutch type diff.

Roen, who is a practicing suspension guru, tried valantly to talk me out of "C/O"'s and into a set of AWR C/O's with a set of cutom valved Koni's or Bilstiens. Yes there is a difference between the two. When I drove him through NYC on our way to the dyno, he was pleasantly surprised by the ride quality with the shocks set pretty much in the middle.

Personally, I like them but there are some roads that I just refuse to drive on locally. I also believe that my city has the absolute WORST roads that I have EVER driven on. Worse than some parts of NYC. The cobblestone roads in NYC's meat packing district sent my blood pressure through the roof and the world started turning red, that was just plain torture. All in all I'm very pleased though and I'm debating bumping them up to the 8/6's. I really don't have enough track time to warrant the change yet. I started with what a bunch of FC track junkies run who have changed spring rates a few times. They all have ended at the same rate. I'm making slightly more power so I thought about changing out to a 7/6, but just haven't yet

Joe, if you can hold out till after DGRR to make your purchase, I'll let you take FrankenWankel for a little blast so you can really get an idea of what they're like. By the time I get there the car will be aligned and cornerweighted and more than likely zipping around on RA1's for the weekend From what I remember though, the roads down there were damn nice compared to what I'm used to here in CT