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Old 05-31-2011, 02:46 PM   #4
Barry Bordes
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s View Post
i have thought about this, and there are a few ways to look at it, none of which is that great IMO. my thoughts started with howard colemans assertion that 255hp in an 159CID engine will have a lot of cylinder pressure. which might be true in a PISTON engine, but the rotary is different enough that we can cast some doubt.

first off, the Mazda rotary is a 4 stroke engine. there are 4 distinct strokes, and there are 2 TDC's and 2 BDC's, just like a piston engine. unlike a piston engine these 4 strokes happen in a different physical location from each other.

also unlike a piston engine, the mazda rotary takes THREE rotations of the eccentric shaft to have a power event on all the working chambers in the engine. a piston engine needs two rotations. this is why the displacement game is apples and oranges.

mazda rates a 13B with 360 degrees of eshaft rotation, 2x654cc (13B, 12A is 573), if you rate a piston engine on 1 turn of its crank, a 350 chevy becomes a 2.85 liter engine....

so its easy to rate a rotary on 2 turns of the eccentric shaft, which gives 4 working chambers worth, 4x654cc or 2.6. in the real world this seems to be close.

however what about those other 2 chambers? we count all 8 cylinders on a v8, but ignore a one third of the engine when we do the 255/159CID calculation. 3 rotations of the shaft is 654cc x 6 = 3924cc.

apples to oranges... a rotary piston engine IS different than an uppy downy motor, and this is one of the fundamental ways.

mike
On the contrary, if a 4 stroke doubles its process to order to enhance its charge (read as slight supercharge) into its cylinder should its displacement not then be doubled?

And yes, Howard is one of the knowledgeable people gone astray, probably through dealing with the SCCA as they slowly handicapped the Rotary out of competition with Porsche.

Barry
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