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t_g_farrell 02-15-2012 11:40 AM

Project Fat Nikki
 
I've procured an 85 nikki and intake manifold from pullapart for some fun.
My goal is to hog out this nikki to the best of my abilities so that it can be used in
place of my current Dellorto setup. I have no compelling reason to do this, the
Dell works great. I just thought it would be fun to do. It will initially go on my
stock port 12A.

I'm cleaning and disassembling right now and will get pictures up as I go along
making the various mods. I know I could get a sterling (maybe) or from SR
Motorsports but I want to do it myself.

So I'll post my detailed plan for the modifications to be done. Please feel free
to post up anything I may be missing or can do better or have first hand
knowledge about that can help me out. In return I promise to deliver lots
of details and pictures as I go along.

Heres the plan. I've numbered each step uniquely and grouped then logically
by component to make discussions easier. If nothing else I hope this helps
anyone else contemplating hogging out their nikki.

AIR HORN mods

done A1. remove choke plates and rod and seal up holes

done A2. remove choke diaphram and brackets, plug holes

done A3. dead head fuel inlet for now. Just cap with bolt and gasket. Keep return and other gasket just in case.

kept A4. remove air vent solenoid, plug with bolt
But disconnected

done A4. remove alt. compensator, plug holes

MAIN BODY mods

done M1. remove dashpot and bracket, plug holes

done M2. remove secondary diaphram, plug holes

done M3. remove TPS

done M4. Drill out AP jet, top center and top 2 holes to .5mm

skipped M5. Drill out AP nozzle to 0.050 "

done M6. Double up gaskets on AP diaphram

done M7. Add extension to AP pump arm.

done M8. Pull primary and secondary booster venturis and cut extra arm off and smooth remainng arm
also polish up inside each venturi to clean up and smooth it out.

done M9. Mill down primary and secondary venturis a little bit

done M10. Drill out fuel and air jets. Or buy holley air bleeds for fuel and only drill air jets.
- only drilled the primary fuel about 1mm or so.

THROTTLE BODY mods.

done T1. Hook up mech secondaries

done T2. strip down linkages to bare minimum

done T3. cut half of secondary shaft away, use shorter small cap hex bolts to attach butterflys

skipped T4. use small cap hex bolts to attach primary butterflys.

INTAKE MANIFOLD mods

done I1. remove butterfly and rod, fill holes

done I2. cut channel between rear primary and seconday opening

I3. install ACV blockoff plate

I4. cut or plug pipe off of the back of the intake

done I5. plug or cutoff extension off rear of intake
Plugged with JBWeld

Rich@SR 02-15-2012 01:17 PM

Let me know if you run into any road blocks. I can also do the machining of the venturi's for you if you can't get the proper equipment yourself. Keep us posted!

t_g_farrell 02-15-2012 01:29 PM

Thanks for the offer. I'll keep it in mind.

I'm amazed at how many small tweaks that are needed to do this. Anyone
modding nikkis like yourself and sterling are really earning your money.

Its a lot of small details, thats why I split it up into the 4 major areas. I'm
going to do each set before moving onto the next.

Rich@SR 02-15-2012 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_g_farrell (Post 182226)
Thanks for the offer. I'll keep it in mind.

I'm amazed at how many small tweaks that are needed to do this. Anyone
modding nikkis like yourself and sterling are really earning your money.

Its a lot of small details, thats why I split it up into the 4 major areas. I'm
going to do each set before moving onto the next.

Yep! DETAILS DETAILS DETAILS! Especially polishing the booster venturi's. Takes me hours to do them. Anyway if you get hung up or just want to bounce ideas hit me up. 954-288-4508. Keep us posted with pictures.

mattallac 02-15-2012 05:16 PM

T G FARRELL from the last thread it looks like you'r on the right track now.Lots of guys modify the stock carb with great results good luck

t_g_farrell 02-16-2012 09:25 AM

No real progress to report. I chem dipped the major pieces but I need to get
some carb cleaner and go at it with a brush and elbow grease this weekend.
I don't have a parts washer so I have to do it the old fashion way. I'm not in
a hurry so that ok.

I'll be ordering the GP Sorensen carb kit as well when I pick up the carb cleaner.
Once its all clean I'll take before shots of everything and then start modding
the carb from the top down.

t_g_farrell 02-21-2012 12:23 PM

Well the carb cleaner I had sucked. It was from advancezone etc and it was
so safe you could water your plants with it. I did some research on the net
and I found that what I wanted was lacquer thinner. It has all the best
ingredients like toluene, acetone, etc.

So I soaked the carb and intake in this yesterday while I was doing some yard
work and they cleaned up pretty good with no real scrubbing. I still want to
take a brass wheel to it all for final clean up, plus I'll reuse the thinner when I
pull the jets as well. No pics yet. I'll post them after I wire brush it all and
before I pull off any jets or venturis.

Got the rebuild kit in and it looks complete. Now I just have to drop by HF
tp pick up some indexed drills and a few other odds and ends for my dremel
supplies.

Kentetsu 02-24-2012 10:22 PM

Not a job for those looking for quick rewards. :) I admire your patience, and look forward to seeing your mod work...




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t_g_farrell 02-25-2012 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kentetsu (Post 183566)
Not a job for those looking for quick rewards. :) I admire your patience, and look forward to seeing your mod work...




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Shhh. Just don't tell Ray about it.

t_g_farrell 02-27-2012 12:39 PM

Update for pics
 
Heres some pics of the carb partially dissassembled and after hitting it with some lacquer
thinner to clean it up. I haven't done any other cleaning yet. I plan on using a home
made soda blaster with my compressor to do the final cleanup. That will be a lot of
fun! This carb was really easy to pull apart. Can't tell if its ever been opened before
but it seems pretty unmolested. I'd call it a good buy from pull-a-part so far.

So heres the pictures, top and bottom view of each component from the top of
the carb down to the intake manifold.

Already remove the choke assembly and few other bits.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j...0/SAM_0346.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9...0/SAM_0347.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-W...0/SAM_0344.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-H...0/SAM_0345.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V...0/SAM_0348.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n...0/SAM_0349.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-p...0/SAM_0353.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3...0/SAM_0356.JPG

ROTORX7Holly 02-27-2012 01:41 PM

Tim I can't believe Ray got to you. Ray will never find this thread over here. You'll have to show it off at an OGTA when your through.

t_g_farrell 02-27-2012 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROTORX7Holly (Post 183768)
Tim I can't believe Ray got to you. Ray will never find this thread over here. You'll have to show it off at an OGTA when your through.

Thats the idea Holly :rofl: I plan on unvieling it at some event where Ray and
I meet up. I won't have it done for the March OGTA, so maybe for DGRR or Mitty.

Actually, I want to do this so I have 2 carb setups to play with when I build
another motor. I figure I can keep the Dell which is already tuned to a stock
port 12A very well on the side and put this fat nikki on and tune it as well.
That way when I build a new motor I have lots of options for getting it tuned
and ready to roll. Also the nikki was cheap and its very cheap to do the work,
you knows us old guys, we like cheap.

The new engine will be some sort of ported 12A, haven't decided
details yet, just have a couple parts engines sitting in the garage apart at the
moment. Heres my thread on that.

t_g_farrell 04-01-2012 07:17 PM

Update
 
I channeled the intake manifold and just have to plug up a hole where the
rod for the butterfly come through. I also clean up the intake a bit but I want
to media blast it before final assemply. I may clear coat it to keep it nice looking.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Z...0/SAM_0420.JPG

Did some work on the throttle cable bracket and removed some things to simplify
it a lot. No pic of that yet.

Worked on the throttle body but had a hard time getting the secondary butterfly
screws out. I tried heat and that didn't help, so I'm soaking in PB blaster and
will give it a go later this week. Any tips on removing those screws would be
great. Hate to have to drill em out.

Also worked on the carb body some. I trimmed the arms off of the primary and
secondary venturis and polished them a bit. Also ground down and polished
the chokes as well. Didn't ream them too much but I may do some more later.
I haven't shortened the oil inject tubes but I did pull them out a bit as they
were almost right up against the small center venturis in the primaries.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-d...0/SAM_0425.JPG

GoopyPerformance 04-02-2012 07:50 AM

Keep up the good work guys..

The Stock nikki s a great carburetor and we need more folks with solid know-how on these carbs for street, race and blow-through projects.

Rich@SR 04-02-2012 12:55 PM

For the butterfly screws:

#1. Use a screw driver that is the right size.
#2. Place the screw driver on the screw and give the screw driver a good tap with a hammer. This not only sets it in the screw head but also give the threads a little shock to knock them loose. You may have to repeat this a few times, but I've had 100% success with this.

I automatically do this for all the carb screws just to make sure I don't strip any, works like a charm.


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