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unkleg 09-11-2011 06:58 PM

Need your Help - Mazda 13b motor in a Manx
 
Hello all,

I need your help I have a Mazda 13b motor in a Manx. I think the motor is a 1985 but not sure is there any way of telling what year it is.

Now the reason I ask is, it's been running really poor and I thought it needed a tune up so I did that and still running bad so I asked on RX7 site and they said it's a carb. problem so I over hauled the carb. WELL GUESS what it still runs bad.:banghead: So I did a compression test and the front rotor has 0 yes zero pressure. So I think I need to rebuild it.

Any help would be great

Thanks in advance.
Greg

FerociousP 09-11-2011 07:22 PM

Post detailed pics and your question will be answered within a few hours!!


and if it did read zero you would definitely need a rebuild. What was the compression of the other rotor?

jfaplanet 09-11-2011 08:20 PM

re:Help
 
Unkleg, what kinda help are you needing, if you do indeed have 0 compression on a rotor, then you do need a rebuild. If you motor is an 85 13b it is from a GSL-SE and the last year that they built that style of motor. There are options but we need to know what type of engine mounts you are using. Post up some pics and someone is sure to help.

Where are you located may be helpful also.

unkleg 09-11-2011 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jfaplanet (Post 164844)
Unkleg, what kinda help are you needing, if you do indeed have 0 compression on a rotor, then you do need a rebuild. If you motor is an 85 13b it is from a GSL-SE and the last year that they built that style of motor. There are options but we need to know what type of engine mounts you are using. Post up some pics and someone is sure to help.

Where are you located may be helpful also.

The other Rotor had 65 psi on T and L. I live in Temecula Ca. between San Diego and Riverside.

Pics coming.

unkleg 09-11-2011 08:56 PM

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This is what its in.

unkleg 09-11-2011 08:58 PM

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Here is the motor. Hopefully these help its hard to get a good pic. there's not much room.

dream36realms 09-11-2011 09:49 PM

looks like the gsl-se oil pan on there Thats all I can add

FerociousP 09-12-2011 09:03 AM

I does look like a 13b from a 1st gen... I hope you were premixing... and that the timing is/was set right.

unkleg 09-12-2011 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FerociousP (Post 164884)
I does look like a 13b from a 1st gen... I hope you were premixing... and that the timing is/was set right.

Premixing???? WHAT no one told me anything about having to premix. As far as timing I never touched it so I hope it was right also.

You are making me rethink this motor rebuild and going to a newer one instead.

FerociousP 09-12-2011 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by unkleg (Post 164885)
Premixing???? WHAT no one told me anything about having to premix. As far as timing I never touched it so I hope it was right also.

You are making me rethink this motor rebuild and going to a newer one instead.

The oil injection has been removed on that engine. Its common practice, especially in custom applications and when modifying/ changing carbs, etc. An arguably standard amount is 1 oz. per gallon of 2-stroke Tc-w3 added to the fuel. Your internal metal seals (apex, side, and corner seals) were not being lubricated (comparable to piston rings). Yo uprobably have quite a bit of internal wear and may be better off getting an entirely new motor. For simplicity sake I'd recommend staying with a GSL-SE block so you won't have any fitment issues.

unkleg 09-12-2011 11:41 AM

OK, so now after reading that I guess I am looking for a GSL-SE block if anyone knows where to go to get one.

Please let me know and this time I will make sure to add oil to the fuel. :D

I am looking in my area on Craiglist but found nothing so far.

I really want to thank you for all your help. :party:

unkleg 09-14-2011 05:51 PM

I have another question. :confused: Is this rotary a 6 port or a 4 port

730RWHP12A 09-16-2011 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by unkleg (Post 165291)
I have another question. :confused: Is this rotary a 6 port or a 4 port

its a 6 port, and those are really good motors.

unkleg 11-11-2011 11:21 PM

Good news all I was able to rebuild the motor had to buy new rotors and housings. The apex seals looked like they were playing around in there for a while(did not look pretty)
Now new problem.
I installed the motor turned it over and fired right up (smoked so bad wife got pissed and had to shut it down) now it will not start again and just floods. I have tried clamping off fuel and just shooting in a little at a time and still will not fire. I thought maybe plugs so bought new ones and still nothing. Any tricks I can try?

eprx7 11-21-2011 10:18 PM

Disconnect the fuel pump wiring or just pull the fuse for the fuel pump, remove the spark plugs and crank the motor to get excess fuel out of the motor. Then put the plugs back in and make sure that they are clean and dry. Make sure that your timing mark is right, check the FSM for instructions on setting timing. After that it should fire right up. Then after you let it warm up (without your wife around) and the check the timing again. That sould get your electrical side work out, then you may need to adjust the carb.

BTW I pre-mix my RX-7 with synthetic 2 stoke oil (Royal Purple) it cost more that normal 2 stroke oil but it doesn't smoke or smell like a chain saw. I have been running it for about 5 yrs now no problems, I use 1oz.per gal. Good luck and nice car by the way.


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