Sometimes you just have to know when to start over...
 

Well here is my build thread for my new car. The Jap ratrod has been sent to scrap and should be fridges in no time at all. The goal for this car is to look stockish (other than a Vmount hood), quiet, and very fast.

To build any worth while car, you have to start with a good body, and I found just that on KIJIJI, he was asking $3500 to start, but after some very good negotiating with a nice example of a FC present; Buggy and I drove this thing away for $1200. It's a stock 1986 GXL, with only 117855KM's on it, it was in a minor fender bender at some point in it's life because the bumper, and driver side fender were replaced, now it just has a minor fitment issue with the bumper, I'm sure that can be fixed relatively easy by Classicauto when it get sent there sometime next year.

Here is what the car currently looks like:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...d/IMG_5566.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...d/IMG_5567.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...d/IMG_5569.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...d/IMG_5571.jpg
Minor misalignment from fender bender:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...d/IMG_5572.jpg
No rust in the quarters:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...d/IMG_5574.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...d/IMG_5576.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...d/IMG_5580.jpg
Looks like someone pried the lock:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...d/IMG_5575.jpg
Sunroof with minor rust like every FC:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...d/IMG_5577.jpg
I guess it got stuck or pushed a lot, nice palm dents:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...d/IMG_5579.jpg
Clean interior:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...d/IMG_5582.jpg

Yay!!!:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...d/IMG_5583.jpg
Engine Bay:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...d/IMG_5587.jpg

Now for the drivetrain, the stock N/A drive line is getting swapped out for TII setup, (Buggy might part it out but you would have to ask him because he is the owner of the N/A stuff) it's going to be powered by a 13B RE with a Haltech E6X, and some sort of Garrett turbo. I am hoping for 375-400 wheel horsepower at 12-15psi.

Here pics of the Engine:

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...d/IMG_5557.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...d/IMG_5560.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...d/IMG_5564.jpg

I will update this as work progresses.

that is actually quite a clean chassis you found yourself.

Yes, yes it is thank you, only has like 75k miles, and no rust which is awesome for a Canadian car.

didnt even notice it was canadian. I had a turbo II that was originally of Canadian descent. I love the dash vent feature the US models never got.

What one is that? The one you flip up and blows fresh air?

yea, toggles on the bottom side of the dash for outside air. pretty much destroys your face on the freeway with wind. was great without a/c

Nice find Kevin!

Go with a Motec, you won't regret it.

Is that the same RE that you've had for years? What kind of porting are you planning?

Hey Brian,

I wish I could go Motec, but I already have the Haltech, maybe someday when I need to upgrade!!

Yup, very same engine I paid $300 for years ago, not planning on porting at all, the turbo has a smallish hot side so I don't need it, and I like the idea of longevity. I never port my engines, I'll just run more boost to make more power. :driving:

Nice car... yet another RE swapped FC in the works :)

No porting on stock RE exhaust?? I'd look into that one a bit more ;) Even just opening the ports earlier would be a big advantage for that turbo (going on looks, not sure of the specs)...

Wanna double your money? I'll give you $600 for it. I need an RE for my FD :suspect:

You need to DL the Motec V3 software........ it's fricken rediculous. I've been using it for almost a year now and I still can't remember where everything is :lol:

It's so nice though. I love it. I'll never use anything else.

At the very least I know Kevin already swapped the sleeves, I would agree though Bill, I like the exhaust porting on mine. All I did was open the port earlier, and smoot out the transitions. That and my little recirc plug. I swear that thing helps alot with AIT's.

Sigh.......... I've got this LS1 conversion that I need to finish so when the weather breaks in April I can hit the FD hard.

What's your anticipated completion date Kevin? You should get your canadian ass in gear and get it finished for DGRRX and caravan down with Joe :D

The Sleeves have been swapped, the Turbo isn't as big as it looks really, the comp wheel is only 58mm on the exducer, and the turbine is about 71mm. Comp A/R is 50, and Turbine is 70. So It's going to have instant spool as is. It made 374whp on a TII with a Massive exhaust leak at the manifold to housing gasket.

Someday I will go with a Motec, but I just bought a house, and I'm likely going to have to propose at some point so that will be one of the things i do later. No I am keeping this RE I bought it after I Built my last engine and wish I swapped it in.

What is this recirc plug?

I want to get it running for Deals gap, and tear it down next winter and let Joe get naughty with it. But we will see... I really need a Vmount hood, my piping should be no longer than 18".

two threads for ya my friend -

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ead.php?t=8391

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ead.php?t=7980

http://www.rotarycarclub.com/rotary_...02c50225fb.jpg

I know someone opening a shop that can build you one :suspect:

Hmmmm makes sense.

How much we talking for a Hood? Because that's just what I want...

$1,000 ready for color. I need your old AL hood though. I built that from my stocker. It'd be better if you have your car done and at my shop so that I can duct it directly to your intercooler. Otherwise I'm guessing on the location and height of the intercooler.

Ahhh well it's easier to build my own IC and ducting off a hood I buy :( but yours is Sexy.

I'm likely going to go with a Shine hood, and go from there I have a nice core that's 12x12x3.

^ Good luck... I've been waiting on my shine hood for quite a while now (the panspeed model) - did you get in on the GB?

Brian - I never read that plug thread before, lol - I guess I'm not the only who seems to piss Ted off so easily!

Eager to see this build's progress though. It'd be nice to have three 13B RE FCs at DGRR in 2011 (mine wont make this year - no way in hell since its taking FOREVER on parts)...

Ted has always seemed to disagree with me, even when I can mathematically prove him wrong in certain 6-spd swap threads. The guy knows his stuff, no doubt, but... well....

Eager to see this build's progress though. It'd be nice to have three 13B RE FCs at DGRR in 2011 (mine wont make this year - no way in hell since its taking FOREVER on parts)...[/QUOTE]

BAH!! Failure Bill!!! This is why I build my own parts. No waiting on anyone but myself. Now I just need to get back into that, "I only need 4 hours of sleep a night" mode :rofl:

Double BAH!!! That's blasphemy Kevin! That's saying form over function! Build the intercooler the way you want it to be with the emphasis on ducting from the front. I noticed a minimal decrease in AIT's when I finished my hood. Mainly becuase I was seeing close to ambient temps with the stock hood due to the ducting in the front. The only large benefit was heatsoak while at idle or after shut down. That and the heatsoak dissipated more quickly with the vented hood. My hood doesn't vent any engine bay heat, or any apprechiable amounts of it anyway. So in that regard, the D-Max Sexy style - which I found angular and not sexy at all - shine hood would be a better choice, but at the same time, I take the approach that one piece should do one job and do it best, hence why I made mine the way that I did.

Think about it though, we need projects and clients and thanks for the sexy comment :kiss:

Unfortunately, I cant make a bumper or 2 way LSD :)

Its all good though - I told ya, I'll be down to have you make a nice four post strut bar when my car's mobile again :) Not a big job, but hey - its something. I'm still waiting on the shine hood as well even though they are supposedly "done" and one has already been delivered....

Man.Im diggen what you got cant wite to see the finish product.

Well, I got this IC for free, and I trying to prove that you can have 400whp cheap, and build a solid car, you can have all three FAST, RELIABLE, and CHEAP. I got my turbo and mani for 700 shipped and it's a SS manifold, likely a blitz from what I am told. I have 2 wastegates coming for 100, and traded my stock turbo and mani for a set of 1680's that will go with the 750's I already have that I also traded for my RE turbos. After paint I'm planing on coming in around $7500-8500.

Thanks man, I hope to have it running in the new year depending when I get called back to work.

Anybody know if the Raceonusa hoods are any good, fitment and quality wise?

Here is what I am looking at:

http://www.raceonusa.com/mazda-rx7-8...zda-rx-7-86-91

In the case of building a drift car, this statement is false,

because using a good body would be a waste... :D

As far as a V-Mount hood goes, contact Shine Auto, they make the best fitting FRP reverse vent hood for the FC. Race on usa parts are known for fitment issues.

Over all, however, if you got an N/A hood, and know how to weld, it would be easier to make your own reverse vent than to wait on shine to finish up. I didn't know they were taking so long...

I'm an OCD kinda guy, and while shine does make some good looking products, the front aero bumper that I have leaves some to be desired in terms of fitment and strength in certain area's. The LS TII that we're doin had the same cracks in the same places that my used one had.

From what I understand, stay away from the Raceonusa pieces for fitment.

Stay away from that hood 'cuz it's ugly as sin ;)

Kevin, I can get you in touch with someone that has an original atihun hood.

Short of that, if yo can TIG, build your own, or let me build you one. Problem is I need your car for it to be PERFECT. But at the end of the day you and up with the most effiecient and best fitting hood you can possibly have.

http://www.atihun.com/pictures/hood/FC/3-6-2004/

This is the hood Brian??? If so, I might need to talk to this fella in the new year!

That's the one. I've got his email as well as evil forum name. Lemme know. It's probably the last unmolested atihun hood in existance. Still in the shipping crate. I was trying to convince the guy, who owns a fiberglass shop, both a blessing and a curse, to use it to pull a mold. Blessing becuase he has the know how to do it, and a curse becuase it's his business and projected the need for at least 5 buyers with non-refundable deposits to make it worth his while. Good luck getting that with the bulk of the FC crowd being cheap bastards. Although there is a LOT LESS of that over here which is nice and refreshing.

Awesome if you could forward that info in a PM that would be THUPER! Where abouts is the guy? Close to a border I hope?

;) He's close to the NY/CT/NJ border

okkkkkkkkkkkkkk and... I will drive down there and kick you in the bag!! OK once I am able to leave again, apparently when you are unemployed, and collecting unemployment you can't go to another country...

:rofl: Silly canadians

The aero bumper has since been discountiuned and is no longer sold by shine...

I have seen the development thread for their hood, they ordered a JDM real version, and it fit so badly, that they cut out the center vent, and put it on a stock N/A hood, later making a mold of the combined part. IMO, that was pretty dedicated as far as an aftermarket company goes. Also, no FRP aero is going to be 100% perfect, like a factory bumper...

The only thing that pisses me off, is hearing that their management has gone downhill...

My partner just had a brand new one delivered to him last week ;)

Yeah, but they did that becuase they couldn't get the real hood that they bought to copy to fit right. Because there was a demand for it, they produced one off of an N/A hood..... odd, I did the same thing

No, but when you open it up and you see bubbles from where the gelcoat to matte wasn't wetted out enough, gel not releasing from the mold becuase there wasn't enough wax, and spidered cracks in pretty obvious places, it makes you wonder. There were three places on my bumper that have cracked or were cracked. I plan on reinforcing all three of those areas with rigid epoxy before I start working the bumper. The one thing that REALLY annoys me about the bumper is that if you run your hand down from where the hood meets south at the corners, it's nice and smooth. If you do this at any location between the FTP lenses, you can feel an abrupt change in angle. On a car, it looks VERY strange as all of a sudden the reflections are moving at speeds they shouldn't be, and things aren't lining up properly etc etc etc.

I still say it's the best looking replacement bumper out there though, it just needs alot more work than one would think. I dunno, Joe would be more knowledgable in his comments as I'm sure he has seen and DEALT with enough aftermarket pieces to know how they stand up against all the other companies.

Just a heads up - I have talk with Ken (from Shine auto) more one on one via email then through the forums so he's better at giving accurate details.

They have the Sexy style reverse vent hood available now and he HAS finished the new Panspeed hood finally. My CF one I think is the first since the others he's done have been FRP. I'll await the finished product to give my opinion - but they DO have two reverse hoods now. If you email him, you may be able to get in on the panspeed GB since we never really got the full # of people we needed.

They do still offer that bumper that Brian has as well. I'll compare the quality to my front bumper from them when it arrives - its not the same model as Brians though, so we'll see!

Long story short - you best off contacting shine before believing anything on their own forum or the evil club. Or - go w/ Brian's hookup. Our cars will all be similar enough, no need to have the same aero packages, lol :)

No one can have my hood.......... :suspect: But I'll do custom hoods if people want them

/\ ok, that explanation makes sense now, thank you.

Which front bumper did you end up with, Bill? The RE A FC2000 replica?

Stay tuned for my thread updates :)



..but you're right, the REA replica. I tossed and turned about your style or the REA. The final decision came down to weight savings and how I plan to run my FMIC/FMOC and ducting... I've realized I'm building a Super Now GT replica car, lol.. didnt even mean to...

Well jsut got the best news I could have hoped for, the Union Hall just called and I'm going back to work, so first things first, buy ring, hood, and rebuild kit!! I should be coming to DDGRX :D

Kevin, if you're going to DGRRX, your ass is caravaning with us! Great news on the job front man. Your list is a little messed up though. You had love for the rotary before your girl, she needs to learn her place in line! j/k..... maybe :suspect:... but seriously :smilielol5: caravan biotch!

Yeah I'll go with ya!! See Happy Wife, Happy Life, so I make her happy she can't say I only care about the car lol. I have this shit planned don't you worry!!

:rofl: I used to get that shit all the time, "you spend more money on the car than on me," was something that I heard frequently till she got the ring appraised. NEVER heard it again. Good thinking though Keving. How close are you to Joe and his crew and what route are they taking this year? Last year I was hoping to hook up with them but they went inland, WAY inland. Like droped down through MI as opposed to NY.