Aluminum Manual Steering Rack w/ quick ratio steering box
 

Is anyone interested in getting a aluminum manual steering rack w/ quick ratio steering box? I think I'm going to get one for my circuit car, and wanted to see if anyone else is interested, so that we can get some sort of group buy price.

It's about $1000 + s & h + import duties for one person. Maybe cheaper the more we get.

It saves about 20lbs from a stock converted manual rack, and is made of billet aluminum, so the box rusting won't be a big issue.





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Count me in...

I'd be interested. This is something I've been pondering lately. From the description it sounds like they already make RHD racks for the FD?

Jack

Yes, RHD racks are already made. 2 more weeks and the LHD version will be finished.
Are you looking for the LHD or RHD trout? Good news is we can sell our p/s racks, and make a little money.

If you guys can list your zip codes, that should help me out a lot. Also, I'll see if it's cheaper to ship to one place here, then from there to all of us in the U.S. as they are located in the UK. We should be able to save on import duties Shipping as one package.

1. MotoTek
2. To_Slow
3. Trout2
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Ok guys, if we can get 5 people we're looking at %10 off for each person. :icon_tup:

1. MotoTek
2. To_Slow
3. Trout2 (LHD) (zip 70118)
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when is $$ needed to be sent?

1. MotoTek
2. To_Slow
3. Trout2 (LHD) (zip 70118)
4. traynham (LHD - zip: 28804)
5.

when is $$ needed to be sent?

1. MotoTek
2. To_Slow(LHD) (zip 48316)
3. Trout2 (LHD) (zip 70118)
4. traynham (LHD - zip: 28804)
5.

I want, I want, I want, but am too cheap :)

Looks like we got the 5 we need. I'll leave the last person unnamed until he makes his mind up for sure, but we should be set to go.


I'll be pming each of you shortly for more contact info. He's going to contact you guys each individually to make it easier on his end.


Also, I asked for the zip codes because I wanted to see if one of us was at a central place to ship to first, and then from there to the other states, so we can split the import duties if they are expensive.


If wanted, I'll see if my dad feels like taking care of getting the stuff shipped to him first in Pittsburgh, PA then off to us after that. I'm in California, so coming to me first would be dumb, since the rest of you are on the East coast.

Also, he's asking for a 50% deposit, so we're looking at $450 up front. I'm sure he can answer any other questions you guys have along the lines of payment, since I have nothing to do with that. Just trying to hook us all up with some nice parts w/ a discount. :driving:

-mike

I bought the first LHD rack and had to send Jon my rack to be sure the alignment was correct, since the RHD version has to clear a different set of obstacles. Its a beautiful piece. Jon will be over here for the CARLISI CRUISE & BBQ event at my place this August 15th. He's bringing a few of his beautiful billet 6 pot big brake kits in 13 and 14 inch diameters. These are as nicely made as the rack.

Gordon

Hey guys, I just emailed Jon Reeves over at Atomic Rex Ltd., so you should be getting an email from him pretty soon. :icon_tup:

Thanks again to everyone for getting in on the group buy, and saving us all some money. :cheers2:

Hey Gordon, I found some pics of your new toys.

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From the looks of it, is it possible to have the rack mounts machined in to the rack making it a solid mount rack?

The reason i ask if this can be done to have the mounts machined in the rack and leave the top of the rack flush meaning 1 straight tube. It will work great for people that are running 3 and 4 rotor applications.
You get less bump steer correction issues and at most no bump steer at all, meaning less height clearance between the oil pan and rack les you have to lower the steering rack to clear the pan. He might hit a more broader customer base considering that is helps with these type of applications 3-4 rotor and piston swaps.
In my situation that will be great 3 rotor swap. Can you talk to Atomic and see if its an option?

ok, now i'm waiting on an invoice telling me how much of a deposit they will be taking from me at this time...

If they do that, I'll buy one.

How are much better are these besides weight saving.. I would love to check them out before investing...

I'm also interested in having the rack mounts machined into the rack itself. Eventually a 20b will be in my car, just not as soon as you two.

Phil, I believe Gordon already has this same rack here in the states. If you live close to him I'm sure he'd be nice enough to let you check it out.

From the research I've gathered here are the pros and cons.

Pros:
Fast correction
Reduced steering input
deletion of entire power steering system 20 lbs savings just in the rack itself.
no core charge
different travel rates (increased steering angle)
free up power (no ps belt)
one less thing to leak :rofl:


Cons:
hard to turn when stopped
cost

mine is for my LT-1 powered FD...

now the only thing I need a belt for is my alternator...time to cut a bracket even more!

I'm hoping Gordon will come to DGRR and let me try out the steering..

If they could incorporate the mounting, I'm for it! Sucks that I just bought the Marvel manual rack.. but I could always sell it or put it in something else..

I've a question on weight on this item. The OP indicates that this will save approx. 20 lbs vs. A CONVERTED RACK, vs. the 8.5 kg (18.7 lbs) over a STANDARD SETUP listed in the Atomic Rex quote. "Standard setup" to me would indicate the factory power steering setup, with lines, pump, etc.

Is it 18 lbs over JUST a manual (Maval style) rack, or over the whole factory system?

good question ptrhahn!

My guess is over the standard PS system.. I can't see saving 20lbs vs. Marvel converted.. But who knows.. Maybe you do save that much by going aluminum casing...

Looks like a very nice piece, I hope they continue to produce them so I can buy one in the future.

I'm not unhappy at all with my Maval rack... but a significant weight savings might make this upgrade worth it. Maybe Atomic could chime in, or post the actual weight of their unit? I've got an extra rack laying around I could weigh.

I just got a Maval rack (haven't taken it out of the box) but I have to say it didn't weigh much.. So, I'm pretty sure 20lbs is not coming from the rack itself but probably with the pump, lines, and fluid.

Just looked up what the UPS weigh Maval rack for (w/box and such)..... 22.30 Lbs!

So, They must be comparing it with stock system.

ptrhahn, So, you like the Maval rack?? I'm kind of excited to put it on... No AC, PS... Its going to be FUN driving around in the Summer Alabama HEAT!

No AC, No PS... no problems. :D I'm running looped lines on my silver FD(and have enjoyed it) and picked up the Maval full manual rack for the yellow one. I'm looking forward to being able to do a "no shit" side by side comparison once I get back.

I emailed Jon the link to this thread.

1. MotoTek
2. To_Slow(LHD) (zip 48316) Deposit sent for solid mount rack :)
3. Trout2 (LHD) (zip 70118)
4. traynham (LHD - zip: 28804)
5.

Ok, the deposit has been taken from my account. The amount is $579.88.

and I just emailed Jon and got this reply:

damn taxes... and i thought we had 5...

Yea, our 5th guy backed out. I'm wondering if we should wait for someone else to jump on. If he builds the mounts into the rack itself I think we can have 2 more guys jump onto the group-buy; which will qualify us for the discount.

"By definition, exports are consumed abroad and are usually not subject to VAT; VAT charged under such circumstances is usually refundable. This avoids downward pressure on exports and ultimately export derived revenue."

I'm not sure how we get refunded though. :dunno:

Also, it looks like we're going to pay close to $113 + VAT (x5) for the racks to be shipped to our individual places (almost $800). I bet it'd be cheaper to to ship to one place here in the states split 1 shipping charge 5 ways, then ship out from there.

I'll figure out how much it'll cost from Pennsylvania to our respective places, and get back to you guys.

Wait so is there a solid mount version of this??

Not yet Phil. I emailed him about implementing that design into the rack, seeing as how they designed it in the first place, but haven't had a reply back from him in about a week.

I know To_Slow is running a 20b, and wanted this design as well. I'm sticking 13b, but the more clearance the better.

Hello..

He send me the rack design a couple days ago, but figure everybody got them, so i did not post them. From the looks of it i told him to go ahead on that design looks great..
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ok, i'm a little lost, how will the mounts being part of the rack give more clearance? Is it because of the lack of bushing and everything will allow to drop the position of the rack just a little?

Tray... Its the "thickness" of the collar that goes around the subframe. This solid mount has about 1/4 inch more clearance to the oil pan than the stock mount.

I am hopeful of getting mine late this week or early next. I have been meaning to have my wife check for sipping costs from my place to each of you, but haven't done it yet. My zipcode is 18077.

I think it will cost a lot less coming to me first.

Gordon

cool, thanks for the clarification, Gordon. I look forward to hearing your opinion of how it feels in the car. My car won't be running for a little while longer, so I get to sit and wonder!

Guys, shipping to Gordons I thought was a great idea, but Jon says that shipping is dependent on weight. :icon_tdown: So, shipping all the racks to Gordons would just be 4x as much, then we'd have to pay shipping from his place to ours. We'll all have to pay a little bit more in taxes this way, but it will save us/gordon hassle and time. :icon_tup:


1. MotoTek Paid in full :icon_tup:
2. To_Slow(LHD) (zip 48316) Deposit sent for solid mount rack :)
3. Trout2 (LHD) (zip 70118)
4. traynham (LHD - zip: 28804)

Dang.. I want it but now i have another priorities.. I have to wait.. I shouldn't of bought To_Slow's rack :)

1. MotoTek Paid in full :icon_tup:
2. To_Slow(LHD) (zip 48316) Deposit sent for solid mount rack :)
3. Trout2 (LHD) (zip 70118)
4. traynham Paid in full :icon_tup:

mean to update last week when i became PIF...

and anyone else talked with Jon and know any updates?

I love this peice, I've been considering dumping the PS. I can't commit yet but by DGRR I should know for sure.