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afgmoto1978 12-15-2008 11:34 AM

FD3S RX-7 Engine Mounted Oil Catch Tank GB
 
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Alright looks like this is the first non vendor GB in RCC!

Since only five people showed interest the total cost for these catch tank assemblies will be $150 + Shipping.

I need a deposit of $50 via PayPal. PayPal Account: jw_griffith@msn.com

The deadline for the deposit is January 9th 2009. PM me you’re shipping address ahead of time so I can give you an accurate shipping quote.

I plan to have these catch tanks done by the end of January 2009. Once I’m finished making them I will contact you and request a final payment of $100 + shipping payment.

If 5 more people get in on this deal I will drop the price to $125 per catch tank assembly.

You will get the following:

1) 1.1 Liter catch tank, with a raw aluminum sand blasted finish.
2) One steel ball valve petcock for drainage
3) K&N air filter
4) Sight line fittings and clear line – preinstalled
5) 3/8” steel breather line mounted to the rear turbo oil drainage mounting point.
6) 3/8” Silicone hose
7) Brass push on fittings and hose clams
8) 2 6mm bolts & 2 6mm nuts

If you want the catch tank powder coated or polished it will be extra. PM me for price quote.

Interest List:

1. CYD
2. John Magnuson
3. Scrubolio
4. Trout2
5. GoRacer
6. RotaryWhat?
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9.
10.

RotaryWhat? once I hash out how your Pre-mix tank will look like I will send you a ISO CAD view to make sure your okay with it's layout.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1229359005

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afgmoto1978 12-17-2008 01:10 PM

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Some more shoots for reference.

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RotaryWhat? 12-17-2008 02:25 PM

Deposit sent.

PortedRotorTuner 12-17-2008 04:53 PM

Sorry if I missed something.
Will this bolt in if you have a stock set up?

afgmoto1978 12-17-2008 11:00 PM

Yes as long you do not have the sequential twin pressure tank in place. If you have non sequential twins or a single turbo your golden.

Later this year I do plan on designing a catch tank that will work with a completely stock setup.

PortedRotorTuner 12-18-2008 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afgmoto1978 (Post 64024)
Yes as long you do not have the sequential twin pressure tank in place. If you have non sequential twins or a single turbo your golden.

Later this year I do plan on designing a catch tank that will work with a completely stock setup.

Ok Thanks for the info. 2009 I'm for sure staying stock. Next winter I haven't
decided as what I'm doing yet. But I'll have a whole year to think about it :)

CYD 01-02-2009 01:24 AM

I don't have PS or AC, how will that affect mounting?

~CYD

afgmoto1978 01-04-2009 04:12 PM

As long as you have the rat nest frame work you should be fine.

afgmoto1978 01-04-2009 04:16 PM

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Alright here's the CAD view of the preliminary Pre-Mix / Catch tank. I nearly doubled the capacity to an estimated 2 litres. However, I need to confirm a few things before that is set the design in stone. One of the main questions is the turbo ducting orientation, RotaryWhat? how do you plan on routing your turbo ducting? If you plan on having the tubing go over the region of where this pre-mix tank is I will have to account for it.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1231103750

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1231104373

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afgmoto1978 01-04-2009 05:23 PM

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Another view with rat nest mounting tab.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1231108415

RotaryWhat? 01-04-2009 08:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by afgmoto1978 (Post 65770)
RotaryWhat? how do you plan on routing your turbo ducting? If you plan on having the tubing go over the region of where this pre-mix tank is I will have to account for it.

Good question. I don't have tubing from the intercooler made yet, so there is some room for adjustment of this piping. I would think the premix tank filler cap would need to be as close to the alternator as possible (still allowing for adjustment of the alt. & bracket), and as close to engine oil fill cap as possible. I've attached a picture of Goodfella's car (hope he doesn't mind) which has the same LIM, Greddy TB Elbow, and Blitz Intercooler as I do---so my piping should run somewhat similar to this. I can't really say for sure though, as I will be keeping the power steering and don't know how that will affect the routing.

Not sure if that helps you or not, and I can't really take measurements until I have the engine back in the car with the intercooler.

afgmoto1978 01-05-2009 11:05 AM

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Well if you have powersteering you won't be able to copy Rich's setup. You could do something similar to mine, but it would require you to relocate the electrical fuse boxes. See Examples

RotaryWhat? 01-05-2009 11:13 AM

Yep, that's not going to work. I'm going to have to run it between the PS and alt.

How about attaching a remote filler tube/neck on the tank somehow?
I realize this will probably make it more expensive.....

afgmoto1978 01-05-2009 12:16 PM

That's a thought, it would be a little more, but I won't rape you too badly. ;)

RotaryWhat? 01-05-2009 01:47 PM

Now that I think about it, that's probably the way to go. I just need to decide where it makes sense to have the filler tube pop out and see if you agree with it.

As far as the price, it won't be an issue. I think the base price of your tank is very fair. If it needs to be customized further, I understand the need for the increased price.

afgmoto1978 01-09-2009 12:40 PM

Alright guys today is the day Deposits are due!

I need a deposit of $50 via PayPal. PayPal Account: jw_griffith@msn.com

PM me you’re shipping address ahead of time so I can give you an accurate shipping quote.

I plan to have these catch tanks done by the end of January 2009. Once I’m finished making them I will contact you and request a final payment of $100 + shipping payment.

You will get the following:

1) 1.1 Liter catch tank, with a raw aluminum sand blasted finish.
2) One steel ball valve petcock for drainage
3) K&N air filter
4) Sight line fittings and clear line – preinstalled
5) 3/8” steel breather line mounted to the rear turbo oil drainage mounting point.
6) 3/8” Silicone hose
7) Brass push on fittings and hose clams
8) 2 6mm bolts & 2 6mm nuts

If you want the catch tank powder coated or polished it will be extra. PM me for price quote.

Interest List:

1. Trout2 - Depost Paid
2. RotaryWhat? - Deposit Paid
3. Astroboy - Paid in Full
4. John Magnuson
5. GoRacer
6. AHarada

AHarada 01-15-2009 01:11 AM

Do you have a pic of one installed in a car with no PS by any chance? I am interested but I think it might look kinda funny without the PS pump. Also, if I don't have the rats nest bracket, would you be able to make something work for me? Nice work btw.

afgmoto1978 01-15-2009 03:16 PM

When I get back in town this weekend I will take some photos of my Gen 2 catch tank without the power steering and mounting bracket in place. I can accommodate an alternative mounting point. Do you still have the alternator in the original location? I may be able to tie into the adjuster bracket. If it looks funny I can modify the tank to have a cleaner look if you want. With the Gen 3 tank I can remove some volume at the top and still be well above 1 litre capacity.

Thanks, tell anybody else you think might be interested in the catch tank.

AHarada 01-15-2009 05:08 PM

Cool Thanks. I do have the alternator in the original location. Taking out a little volume from the container is not a problem. I like yours because it is very clean looking - like it is stock.

afgmoto1978 01-22-2009 11:09 AM

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AHarada, see pictures of the catch tank without the power steering and bracketry in place. If you decide to get one of these tanks I can make a custom one without the standoff at the top and put the sight line one the right face of the catch tank to get a better view. Since were so close to the end of this month you just need to pay in full when I'm done, but I need confirmation you want this made before the end of this Friday. I will be making the tanks this weekend.

That goes for the rest of the guy who haven't paid the deposit. I need confirmation that you intend to buy a catch tank.

AHarada 01-22-2009 04:20 PM

That sounds awesome. Yes, please put me down for one like you said without the standoff at the top and the sight line on the right side. Let me know if you'd like me to make a deposit before these are actually done, no problem there.

AHarada 01-22-2009 04:27 PM

Also, I have stock twin turbos for now, so the turbo oil drain on the rear iron is being used. So how would you suggest I set it up like this? I'm thinking the catch tank inlet would be from the oil filler neck, but what about the catch tank outlet? Would that go to the PCV check valve on the UIM, or to the primary compressor inlet? Or both?

RotaryWhat? 01-22-2009 09:25 PM

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Regarding the premix tank design---I can't think of a filler/cap location better than what you pretty much have drawn up. Attached is a picture showing the routing of the IC piping (mine will be similar)----I think your tank will still fit. Perhaps you could cut off the top part of the tank on the drivers side just to make a little more clearance? I don't think it will affect the capacity much, and if you could run the sight line out of the front instead of top I think there would be enough room. What do you think?

Also, I wanted to make sure that your tank will have clearance for the steel braided oil metering lines around the water pump---it looks pretty close in some of your pictures.

afgmoto1978 01-23-2009 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AHarada (Post 67923)
Also, I have stock twin turbos for now, so the turbo oil drain on the rear iron is being used. So how would you suggest I set it up like this? I'm thinking the catch tank inlet would be from the oil filler neck, but what about the catch tank outlet? Would that go to the PCV check valve on the UIM, or to the primary compressor inlet? Or both?

Well, these catch tanks vent to atmosphere, so a line to the UIM is not required. This then allows no pressure to build up in the oil pan during all conditions.

As far the vent line from the right rear iron, I will provide you with all the neccesary hardware for when or if you plan to convert to single. Others have drilled and tapped into the front engine cover, but I don't believe you would want to do that.

Go ahead a send a Paypal deposit and your shipping address.

afgmoto1978 01-23-2009 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RotaryWhat? (Post 67944)
Regarding the premix tank design---I can't think of a filler/cap location better than what you pretty much have drawn up.

Also, I wanted to make sure that your tank will have clearance for the steel braided oil metering lines around the water pump---it looks pretty close in some of your pictures.

I came to that conclusion last week, here's what your's is going to look like.

I did take that into account, it will be tight, but they will fit. :icon_tup:

afgmoto1978 01-23-2009 01:05 PM

I need a deposit of $50 via PayPal. PayPal Account: jw_griffith@msn.com

PM me you’re shipping address ahead of time so I can give you an accurate shipping quote.

I plan to have these catch tanks done by the end of January 2009. Once I’m finished making them I will contact you and request a final payment of $100 + shipping payment.

You will get the following:

1) 1.1 Liter catch tank, with a raw aluminum sand blasted finish.
2) One steel ball valve petcock for drainage
3) K&N air filter
4) Sight line fittings and clear line – preinstalled
5) 3/8” steel breather line mounted to the rear turbo oil drainage mounting point.
6) 3/8” Silicone hose
7) Brass push on fittings and hose clams
8) 2 6mm bolts & 2 6mm nuts

If you want the catch tank powder coated or polished it will be extra. PM me for price quote.

Interest List:

1. Trout2 - Depost Paid
2. RotaryWhat? - Deposit Paid
3. Astroboy - Paid in Full
4. John Magnuson - Deposit Paid
5. GoRacer
6. AHarada - Deposit Paid
7. hsitko - Deposit Paid

afgmoto1978 01-26-2009 11:24 AM

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Alright guys making good progress, just have a lot of weld ahead of me. Aharada, here's your tank coming together.

AHarada 01-26-2009 07:38 PM

Looks great. Deposit sent.

afgmoto1978 02-01-2009 01:19 PM

Alright the GB is Officially closed.

Those that have got in on this GB consider yourselves lucky. I will be increasing the price of these units to $250 to reflect the amount of hours involved in making these kit. So you got them at a fire sale price.

aoc007 02-01-2009 04:50 PM

Any chance I can still jump in? I posted in your FD build thread on rx7club

afgmoto1978 02-01-2009 06:50 PM

If your willing to pay the $250, yes. I would have to make another set of the plates and order accessory parts, which takes a long time. Also would you mind if you get it later in the year, say Mid April? I'm rather overwhelmed with work and need to get my car back on the road asap to get it ready for the March 28th Redline Time Attack.

Let me know and sorry for the delay. Do you also want one of the power steering tanks? I'll work out a deal if you do and are patient. :)

aoc007 02-01-2009 10:03 PM

Ok, let me do some research and get back to you, I'm not sure how I want to run my catch can & premix tank yet. I just figured if I could get in on it now for half price that'd be a good deal :) My car is down being rebuilt for awhile so time isn't much of an issue. I'll look into the ps tank also.

-Andy

afgmoto1978 02-01-2009 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by aoc007 (Post 69448)
Ok, let me do some research and get back to you, I'm not sure how I want to run my catch can & premix tank yet. I just figured if I could get in on it now for half price that'd be a good deal :) My car is down being rebuilt for awhile so time isn't much of an issue. I'll look into the ps tank also.

-Andy

Lol, okay, let me know what direction you want to go. RotaryWhat?'s Pre-Mix tank came out to just under 1.6 liters and the catch tanks are exactly 1.5 liters. The power steering tank is really for more capacity and to relocate the filler neck to accommodate my V-mount setup.

afgmoto1978 02-01-2009 11:38 PM

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Alright guys I'm 75% there on getting these Catch Tank kits done. The tanks are all mostly welded up, I just need to do the following.

1: Weld in passenger breather inlet line on the tanks.
2. Weld in customer specified upper mounting tab.
3: Drill & Tap Bungs
4. Make the passenger side breather lines (mounting flange, formed line, LIM support tab, braze it all together)
5. Polish or sand blast tanks
6. Ceramic clear coat tanks & paint breather lines.
7. Install Sight line fittings, drain valve, sight line tubes.
8. Package and ship to you guys.

I need to know from each person other than RotaryWhat? and AHarada on what type of upper mounting tab you want. See picture below, you have the choice of the following, 1) power steering tab mount (requires you to drill and tap the tab on the power steering tank frame), 2) the original vacuum chamber tank mount (requires the rats nest frame work to be in place)

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1233549297

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1233549315

RotaryWhat? 02-02-2009 11:02 AM

Looking good :icon_tup:

afgmoto1978 02-02-2009 05:37 PM

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Here another view of the power steering mounting tab for those tha can't picture it in your head.

afgmoto1978 02-03-2009 12:28 PM

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RotaryWhat?, see pictures of the filler neck. It ended up being really close to the oil filler cap. So if you have one of those rotor shape filler caps, Sorry your going to have to ditch that engine garnish.

And the lower sight line tube near the main engine pulley wheel will be captured by a tab that I will be welding onto the tank shortly.

Should be polishing/clear coating it Wednesday/Thursday and ready to ship Friday/Saturday.

RotaryWhat? 02-03-2009 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afgmoto1978 (Post 69695)
RotaryWhat?, see pictures of the filler neck. It ended up being really close to the oil filler cap. So if you have one of those rotor shape filler caps, Sorry your going to have to ditch that engine garnish.

And the lower sight line tube near the main engine pulley wheel will be captured by a tab that I will be welding onto the tank shortly.

Should be polishing/clear coating it Wednesday/Thursday and ready to ship Friday/Saturday.

Congrats for being able to fit everything in there. No worries on the cap---small price to pay for not having to custom mount an off the shelf tank somewhere in my engine bay. Looks really good---let me know the final price and I'll Paypal the rest.

AHarada 02-03-2009 07:20 PM

How much extra is it for powdercoating? I'd rather have mine gloss black.

afgmoto1978 02-05-2009 11:11 AM

1. Trout2 - Depost Paid - Power Steering Mount - Normal Finish
2. RotaryWhat? - Deposit Paid - Power Steering Mount - Polished
3. Astroboy - Paid in Full - Power Steering Mount - Custom
4. John Magnuson - Deposit Paid - Power Steering Mount - Normal Finish
5. GoRacer - ???? MIA ????
6. AHarada - Deposit Paid - Custom - Powder Coat Gloss Black
7. hsitko - Deposit Paid - Rat's Nest Mount - Powder Coat Gloss Black


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