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DriFD3S 02-27-2012 03:40 AM

BF Goodrich KDW2's
 
I have SSR Type-C Rims,
17X8 in front
17X8.5 in rear

I want to put BFG KDW2's on them,
thinking 235/45R17's in front,
and 255/40R17's in the rear,

I'm currently running 225's in front, and 255's in the rear with absolutely no issues.

Uhm,.. Does anyone have any comments, or experience with the BFG's that I am after???
Anyone ever used them?

They will just be for driving around the city like a boss,
no track, no drifting, nothing like that. Just fancy A-B (quickly in some cases, hehe)

Thanks for any comments or input.

:biggthumpup:

TitaniumTT 02-27-2012 06:41 AM

I run bigger tires on my stock bodied FC.

Someone has fallen victim to advertising

almoststockfc 02-27-2012 08:18 AM

I have plenty. Good street tires but cant say much for anything elese. Just make sure wich kdw 2s you are getting. There are atleast 2 that i know of

almoststockfc 02-27-2012 08:30 AM

On the other issue of the size i cant offer any advice. It all depends on your offset and if you have coilovers or not. But yea like brian said you should be able to go way bigger

Mobius 02-27-2012 09:40 AM

I run them on my FD, I have no complaints.

DriFD3S 02-27-2012 11:09 PM

Hmm... How much bigger should I go?
What can my rims accommodate?

I don't know my offset off by heart.

Thank you Mobius for the input.
Good street tires, but nothing else??
not for track, drag, or drifting events?

Roen 02-28-2012 09:26 AM

I'd look into what tires are better in the wet, the KDW2 or the Bridgestone RE-11. The RE-11 wil massacre the KDW2 on dry.

Mobius 02-28-2012 11:06 PM

You specifically mentioned in your OP that you were not looking for information about track usage, so I didn't mention any.

These are the only tires I've run on my FD for some time, so I can't tell you how they compare to others. I can tell you that they are a relatively hard tire, so you can get decent mileage out of them unless you're lighting them up at every intersection. Which to me is good for a street tire.

In the wet the traction falls off quickly, and if it is wet and cold you should stay home. Despite that, they do seem to be quite stable in standing surface water (say long puddles in the highway grooves).

The only track experience I've had with them is 2 or 3 autoX's. They aren't particularly grippy, but the sidewalls are very stiff (at least in the sizes I'm running) and I found them to be very consistent and predictable.

TitaniumTT 02-28-2012 11:14 PM

I put down a 69s time in the rain @ Limerock running Direzza Z1SS's... then I drove them to CA and back and even went through a snow storm in PA with a few inches on the highway... I wouldn't reccomend it, but I'll be putting another set on the 'vert. My FC is in need of more grip though

RETed 02-29-2012 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DriFD3S (Post 183839)
Good street tires, but nothing else??
not for track, drag, or drifting events?

Then why did you say this in your original post...?
Quote:

They will just be for driving around the city like a boss,
no track, no drifting, nothing like that. Just fancy A-B (quickly in some cases, hehe)

Are you off your meds again?


-Ted

Roen 02-29-2012 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 183938)
I put down a 69s time in the rain @ Limerock running Direzza Z1SS's... then I drove them to CA and back and even went through a snow storm in PA with a few inches on the highway... I wouldn't reccomend it, but I'll be putting another set on the 'vert. My FC is in need of more grip though

Hankook Ventus R-S3.....so good for a street tire, Ontario Time Attack is reclassifying the gap from 10 points to 8 points to a Hoosier R6. Put that on your vert, tell me what you think compared to the Direzza.

TitaniumTT 02-29-2012 02:43 PM

I already have good Direzza rears for the vert, just need to buy fronts. I'll put them on the coupe when the time is right. How do they compare to the nitto nt01, nt05, ad08 etc etc.... you know, the real tires, not the ones that just look cool ;)

Roen 02-29-2012 03:11 PM

NT-01 is a different class
NT05 is worthless
AD08 is good in the dry, twitchy as fuck in the wet. I was having problems in low temps and rain with a 350 whp 135i.

TitaniumTT 02-29-2012 11:09 PM

Don't care about the class.... how does the tire stack up?

almoststockfc 03-01-2012 12:02 AM

I dont think kdw 2s are for any class. This topic went to left field

DriFD3S 03-01-2012 04:17 AM

#10
Just curious as to why.

Anyways, I ordered my tires, I am expecting them in 2 months.
And, that's fine because I won't be driving until May, for my birthday.

Roen 03-01-2012 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 184060)
Don't care about the class.... how does the tire stack up?

Slightly worse than a RA-1?

TitaniumTT 03-01-2012 08:42 PM

Damn.... that ain't bad at all.... they may not fit though..... 245 on a 17x8.5 +35 with a 5mm offset on my FC? It'll clear the shock... not sure about the fender though... and fucking CHEAP!!!!!

Yeah... I'm sold... I'll toss them on the coupe.

section width 9.8
tread width 9.1
vs the 235 direzza
section - 9.6
tread - n/a

should fit... the only time the direzza's rubbed was @ limerock... and I've since rolled the fenders... should be good to go actually......

WE3RX7 03-01-2012 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roen (Post 184009)
NT-01 is a different class
NT05 is worthless
AD08 is good in the dry, twitchy as fuck in the wet. I was having problems in low temps and rain with a 350 whp 135i.

When did you last run the NT05? I currently have them on my 8 and have run a full season of autox on them plus DGRR2011. They're at the end of their life now and I am replacing them (with the RS3), but only to go to a larger size and softer compound.

The NT05 is a HUGE improvement over the 555 tire and is not an R comp, so I don't expect it to run with the NT01. Its in a class with the RS3, Direzza Stars, Ecsta XS, etc. In its price category, its better than the direzza and the xs. I've run all three with the SAME suspension settings, same venue, etc and the NT05 was the best. More predictable and much better life than the XS, more turn-in then the direzzas.


All that being said, I will be moving onto the RS3. I don't think anybody will argue its better than the XS, NT05 and star specs.

And Bridgestones? Forget it... great tire, way overpriced given the new generation of cheaper sport tires.

2gslse 03-02-2012 02:00 AM

Bill, you were right I was looking at the RS3 as a good option for the FB but it is still going to be asking a LOT for any tire to stick when the boost hits.

Roen 03-02-2012 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WE3RX7 (Post 184209)
When did you last run the NT05? I currently have them on my 8 and have run a full season of autox on them plus DGRR2011. They're at the end of their life now and I am replacing them (with the RS3), but only to go to a larger size and softer compound.

The NT05 is a HUGE improvement over the 555 tire and is not an R comp, so I don't expect it to run with the NT01. Its in a class with the RS3, Direzza Stars, Ecsta XS, etc. In its price category, its better than the direzza and the xs. I've run all three with the SAME suspension settings, same venue, etc and the NT05 was the best. More predictable and much better life than the XS, more turn-in then the direzzas.


All that being said, I will be moving onto the RS3. I don't think anybody will argue its better than the XS, NT05 and star specs.

And Bridgestones? Forget it... great tire, way overpriced given the new generation of cheaper sport tires.

I'm not comparing it against Nitto tires......I'm comparing it against other tires in it's class. And based on Nationals results.......it just doesn't stack up. Give me an RE-11, AD08, Direzza or R-S3 any day of the week. Hell the Toyo R1R is quick in the 15 inch size.

Maybe not the Direzza since you seem to have tested it on the 8, but AD08 is better in the dry, and the RE-11 is better in the wet. But you're right, both tires lead the class in price.


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