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vex 03-02-2011 03:39 PM

Digi Dash Mount Fab
 
So while I wait for some parts to get here I'm wanting to get the backplate/mount for the digidash taken care of. I know individuals have done it before and would like to see some pictures if you're willing to post them.

My plan is to use the stock dash unit to get an outline and to integrate turn signals (2 LED's), fuel gauge, and 3 buttons (2 push buttons for operation with the digidash and 1 push button for operation with the O2 calibration), and 1 LED for O2 Calibration.

Any thoughts or suggestions; feel free to post.

tweiss3 03-02-2011 03:43 PM

Just grab a piece of steel or aluminum and start cutting, then spray it black

vex 03-02-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tweiss3 (Post 142151)
Just grab a piece of steel or aluminum and start cutting, then spray it black

I'm thinking a little more upper class than that. Spray adhesive, foam, and some marine vinyl with some better cut outs for the blinkers and buttons. I'm looking for more physical dimensions, and pitfalls to watch out for.

tweiss3 03-02-2011 04:23 PM

lol, personally, i'd grab the dash piece, trace it to paper, get its dimensions, toss it in CAD, fiddle with the layout tillyou like it, cut it out based on the CAD template, then maybe suede, or leather wrap it, even could do a real CF fabric wrap.

2gslse 03-02-2011 04:30 PM

I haven't seen a FC cluster for ages but why not just gut the stocker of everything useless and go from that it will fit perfectly and have mounts already in place

TitaniumTT 03-02-2011 04:41 PM

Gutting the stocker really isn't an option becuasde of the way the back is, and the way the plexi curves. What I did was start with a piece of AL cut out to mirror the back of the dash. Then added a fe inches to it on the bottom. Without this, when the "Hood" goes on, you'll be able to see straight through the to plastic dash. Same goes with the sides. I've built a 1/2 dozen or so of these for various projects. Maybe you should just get your ass to Deals T, check mine out. You know you want to.

vex 03-02-2011 04:47 PM

I do, but I have the car show to deal with as well as get my car up and running (which includes getting this dash mounted and situated right.

I think I know how I'm going to do it, but I'd like to see your setup if you wouldn't mind.

TitaniumTT 03-02-2011 04:48 PM

NO!!!!!!! AAHAHAAAHAHAHAAHAHHAAA

I'll try to dig up some pics.... see what I got in hiding....

T, what was that place for the Deutsch connectors that you posted up? Doing price comparision right now for this Landi piece of poo

2gslse 03-02-2011 04:51 PM

Oh... OK I figured it would be a good starting point

vex 03-02-2011 05:17 PM

https://www.wirecare.com/

TitaniumTT 03-02-2011 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by vex (Post 142169)

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by 2gslse (Post 142167)
Oh... OK I figured it would be a good starting point

It is, for an outline for the backplate it's perfect. Everything else needs to be built up though to meet with the cluster surround

vex 03-03-2011 10:04 AM

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Here's the preliminary design of the digi dash. I still have a few things to work out (namely proper sizing of the front dash, holes for the buttons, LED's, and Fuel Gauge).
http://www.rotarycarclub.com/rotary_...9&d=1299164665

Thoughts?

TitaniumTT 03-03-2011 10:18 AM

I think you're going to want it forward of the dash becusae it needs to be angled.

Still looking for pics

TitaniumTT 03-03-2011 10:30 AM

Yeah, they're not on this machine.... gonna have to dig up the OLD one and see if they're there or not.

vex 03-03-2011 10:34 AM

How much of an angle (is it less than 30 degrees)--or should I attempt to mimic the stock angle? I would like to have the digital dash (IQ3) flush mounted/recessed to the front dash so that the vinyl cover has an easy transition to the IQ3. This means how I design the mounting tabs will dictate the angle of the dash.

tweiss3 03-03-2011 10:39 AM

I'm not a fan of vinyl. I would use a real CF fabric, then clear coat. But that's just me. I do like how it looks so far.

vex 03-03-2011 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tweiss3 (Post 142301)
I'm not a fan of vinyl. I would use a real CF fabric, then clear coat. But that's just me. I do like how it looks so far.

It's a thought, but I prefer a softer surface than to a hard plastic. If I could afford it I would throw on some real black leather, but with the strives marine vinyl has made in the past few years it's a tough fabric to beat.

http://www.onlinefabricstore.net/mar...ack-vinyl-.htm

Scratch resistant, flame retardant, mildew resistant, etc, etc, etc, all for under $20.00 for 1yard of it.


Or hell Faux Leather for even cheaper:
http://www.onlinefabricstore.net/vin...yl-fabric-.htm

vex 03-03-2011 12:25 PM

after reinspecting the stock mounting of the dash unit I think my angle concerns will be remedied via the stock mounting system: The mounting tabs on the dash are not angled any which indicates that the mounting angle is at the mounting location. I will know more precisely this weekend.

TitaniumTT 03-03-2011 02:03 PM

The dashes I built used the stock mounting tabs built into the back of the dash. I used this with the Autometer replacement gauges and the angle was slightly less than desirable. Changed it out with the digital dash. Lemme get these turbo's sorted out and in the mail and I'll pull it and snatch some pics for ya

vex 03-03-2011 02:38 PM

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Thanks I appreciate it. I think I may have made this overly complicated :lol:

But what I have in my mind is going to be really nice, I even think I have an idea on how to angle it more. If you could get me a rough angle that would work well too.

chibikougan 03-03-2011 02:50 PM

I like what your doing there. If you mount the LEDs in plexi be sure to torch the edges and back so all the light is forced through the Face. Just Torch enough to fog it not melt it. It should light up your turn signal arrows you have pictured really nicely and all you have to do is cut a cube of plexi and mount it to the back of the cutout. Mount LED inside the cube and you are good to go. If you don't want to see the LED you can mount it to the bottom of the cube so that it is a little lower then the arrow cutout so it should just make for a nice bright clean arrow.

tweiss3 03-03-2011 02:52 PM

Very nice looking. Continue.

What are u using, autocad? solidworks?

vex 03-03-2011 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chibikougan (Post 142336)
I like what your doing there. If you mount the LEDs in plexi be sure to torch the edges and back so all the light is forced through the Face. Just Torch enough to fog it not melt it. It should light up your turn signal arrows you have pictured really nicely and all you have to do is cut a cube of plexi and mount it to the back of the cutout. Mount LED inside the cube and you are good to go.

I'm planning on using the stock plastic for the turn indicators. They should be able to be kept in place by either glue (I don't like that thought) or the compression of the faux leather.

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Originally Posted by tweiss3 (Post 142337)
Very nice looking. Continue.

What are u using, autocad? solidworks?

Using Autodesk Inventor. If I could figure out how to use the iMate feature in the program I'd throw in the rivets too.

My5ABaby 03-03-2011 03:17 PM

I would suggest sanding a piece of plexiglass where you want the light to shine for the turn signal indicators. Any smooth surface of the plexiglass will not display the light worth a damn.

chibikougan 03-03-2011 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by My5ABaby (Post 142343)
I would suggest sanding a piece of plexiglass where you want the light to shine for the turn signal indicators. Any smooth surface of the plexiglass will not display the light worth a damn.

That is the point of torching the other sides of the plexi. They catch the light to be displayed out of the clean face.

vex 03-03-2011 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by My5ABaby (Post 142343)
I would suggest sanding a piece of plexiglass where you want the light to shine for the turn signal indicators. Any smooth surface of the plexiglass will not display the light worth a damn.

I'm planning on using the stock pieces (still debating on if I want to use LED's or the stock light bulbs), to which I don't remember specifically if they are already clouded or not.

vex 03-03-2011 04:36 PM

This seems like a little much to me:
https://cornerbalance.wordpress.com/...ash-installed/
http://cornerbalance.files.wordpress...installed2.jpg
http://cornerbalance.files.wordpress...installed1.jpg

Reminds me of someone's head with large ears.

TitaniumTT 03-03-2011 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by vex (Post 142334)
Thanks I appreciate it. I think I may have made this overly complicated :lol:

But what I have in my mind is going to be really nice, I even think I have an idea on how to angle it more. If you could get me a rough angle that would work well too.

Demanding aren't you!

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Originally Posted by chibikougan (Post 142336)
I like what your doing there. If you mount the LEDs in plexi be sure to torch the edges and back so all the light is forced through the Face. Just Torch enough to fog it not melt it. It should light up your turn signal arrows you have pictured really nicely and all you have to do is cut a cube of plexi and mount it to the back of the cutout. Mount LED inside the cube and you are good to go. If you don't want to see the LED you can mount it to the bottom of the cube so that it is a little lower then the arrow cutout so it should just make for a nice bright clean arrow.

Way too complicated, and not so useful either as there are other warning indicators that need to be there as well.... T are you still using your idiot light cluster piece of poo in the center of the dash?

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Originally Posted by vex (Post 142352)

Yeah, it's called MICKEY FUCKING MOUSE!!!! :rofl:



Here's what I've got... I'll pull the dash later as I'll be working that area anyway... parts from crutchfield came in, now all I need is a fucking semi-working wiper switch :banghead:

The center dash is ONLY for the dash. The fuel, volt, and Boost gauges are mounted in the center idiot light piece of poo section.

I've got 3 LED's on EACH side. Each side has one of each, green, yellow, blue. Green LED's represent the turn signals, one on each side. Blue LED's represent represent High Beams on the left, low washer on the right. Orange LED's represent E-brake on the left , Low Fuel on the right. Just LED's, no fancy wierd looking fuax leather torched plexi :p

Sch1Tz0 03-03-2011 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 142357)
Demanding aren't you!

Yeah, it's called MICKEY FUCKING MOUSE!!!! :rofl:

Damn For a minute I thought people had met my ex-wife.....

TitaniumTT 03-03-2011 08:05 PM

Yeah, sorry there T, I just went outside and found out there's no propane left, and it's like 20*..... so yeah, sorry, gonna have to wait a day on those pics... too fucking cold. My balls are shriveling up just thinking about it :rofl:

vex 03-03-2011 09:48 PM

It's all good. The Faux leather is for the mold over foam B. The turn signal cut out is modeled from the stock green covers. I'm open to alternate suggestions in this matter, though I do not like the thought of just having single LED's for indicators. And yes, I'm still using the center warning cluster.

Look what I found:
http://www.signal-construct.de/image...ffgehaeuse.pdf

Those should make things easier. Just have to find a place that sells 'em.

chibikougan 03-03-2011 10:48 PM

Nice! Those will make things much simpler.

vex 03-03-2011 10:50 PM

But I can't find anyone who sells 'em. :/

vex 03-04-2011 10:41 AM

So this might be a silly question: Will I still need to deal with the "Shift Up" light from the stock dash, or will it be disabled when I switch to the standalone? My gut says it will be disabled, but I'd rather make sure than guess (and I'm feeling kind of lazy).

tweiss3 03-04-2011 10:46 AM

Unless you create an output from the standalone to be a shift up light, its not going to exist. In fact, that must be an S4 thing, cause my S5 doesn't have one that i know of, just the buzzer

vex 03-04-2011 11:04 AM

unless I'm much mistaken the Digi dash will have shift and warning lights built in and used by the ECU automatically. I'm just concerned that I may have a live wire back there causing havoc whenever I get into the higher RPM band.

tweiss3 03-04-2011 11:11 AM

why would you have a loose wire? Aren't you rebuilding the harness? If you have to, tape it off.

vex 03-04-2011 11:18 AM

I think we're missing each other here. There's a plethora of wires coming into the stock dash. Among which include the Brights indication, Blinkers, and the Shift up light. Rather than remove the entire dash unit I was planning on just pulling the wires that I need (blinkers and brights indication). My question however is does the stock setup pull the voltage for the shift up from the stock ECU or is it pulling it from a secondary computer?

tweiss3 03-04-2011 11:21 AM

ooooooohhhh, i thought you were doing a TTT and pulling the whole harness. let me grab the wiring diagram here in a minute and check it out for you

tweiss3 03-04-2011 11:22 AM

what year is yours?


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