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speedjunkie 02-17-2011 01:56 AM

anodizing or painting timing wheel
 
I'm thinking about either painting or anodizing (I'd rather anodize actually) the wheel that the CAS reads off of but I want to make sure it won't have any adverse effects on timing or anything. I'm not sure how they are coated from the factory but I'm sure there is something on there since they are green. Does anyone have any idea if painting or anodizing it would hurt anything? I figure anodizing would be less of an issue since you're essentially just staining the metal instead of covering it with paint, since it reads with magnetism. But I could be wrong on all this haha.

Signal 2 02-17-2011 07:17 AM

I painted my trigger wheel a few years ago and noticed no ill-effects. It's magnetic, so after sanding off the OEM coating I went very light around the tabs. I've seen no ill effects. I would think anodizing would have even less effect than the OEM coating.

speedjunkie 02-17-2011 08:55 AM

Cool. That's what I figured but I just wanted to check. I figured if anything I'd just sand off the back of the tab completely. Thanks!

RETed 02-17-2011 09:51 AM

Anodize / anodizing implies aluminum.
I don't think that wheel is made out of aluminum?

It's most likely plated (i.e. "cad plated") or coated.


-Ted

Signal 2 02-17-2011 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RETed (Post 140662)
Anodize / anodizing implies aluminum.
I don't think that wheel is made out of aluminum?

-Ted

Your right, forgot that. The OP won't be able to anodize the steel trigger wheel.

speedjunkie 02-17-2011 02:59 PM

Damn haha. I didn't know you could only anodize aluminum. Thanks for clearing that up. I wonder if I could get it re-plated then.

Signal 2 02-17-2011 05:05 PM

If you REALLY want to make it shine I guess chrome would be an option.

speedjunkie 02-19-2011 04:11 AM

I don't want to make it shine though, I'm trying to turn everything black. I've even thought about sandblasting my aftermarket pulleys and anodizing them. I believe they're aluminum anyway haha.

Thanks for the input guys. I guess I'll look into plating for the non-aluminum stuff then.

Garfinkles Motor Works 02-19-2011 09:45 AM

Mine is power coated and I sanded the back side of the tabs alittle to be sure the siginal was not weak . That was 6-7 years ago .

TitaniumTT 02-19-2011 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by speedjunkie (Post 140855)
I don't want to make it shine though, I'm trying to turn everything black.

:suspect:

speedjunkie 02-19-2011 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Garfinkles Motor Works (Post 140878)
Mine is power coated and I sanded the back side of the tabs alittle to be sure the siginal was not weak . That was 6-7 years ago .

OK, maybe I'll do that too. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 140881)
:suspect:

What is that look for? LOL I've wanted to do this for several years, I just finally got the opportunity and money at the same time to do it haha.

Prodigy 02-19-2011 11:15 PM

I think it would look good, I hate how my pullies all look a nice neutral weathered color, then my greddy pullies are anodized light blue, looks so tacky... But I'll care about theta more once it's running good, take care of ascetics later... First I want more power, and a good tune to go with it... BDC anyone....?

Lol


J.

speedjunkie 02-19-2011 11:22 PM

^Yeah that's where I am now. I have some time during the engine rebuild so I figured I'd go ahead and take care of the color swap while I'm at it.

BDC LOL!!

TitaniumTT 02-19-2011 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Prodigy (Post 140928)
I think it would look good, I hate how my pullies all look a nice neutral weathered color, then my greddy pullies are anodized light blue, looks so tacky... But I'll care about theta more once it's running good, take care of ascetics later... First I want more power, and a good tune to go with it... BDC anyone....?

Lol


J.

Get ahead of the curve, walk to the street, get a few pounds of road salt, remove air filter, rev to 8k, pour sand into engine.

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Originally Posted by speedjunkie (Post 140924)
What is that look for? LOL I've wanted to do this for several years, I just finally got the opportunity and money at the same time to do it haha.

:rofl: Uh huh,....... couldn't be when I opened the hood you went, wow that really does look good ;)

Prodigy 02-20-2011 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 140932)
Get ahead of the curve, walk to the street, get a few pounds of road salt, remove air filter, rev to 8k, pour sand into engine


Hey I can do that myself, and it's cheaper!!!!! No need to supply your own datalogit either :rofl:


J.

RETed 02-20-2011 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by speedjunkie (Post 140855)
I don't want to make it shine though, I'm trying to turn everything black. I've even thought about sandblasting my aftermarket pulleys and anodizing them. I believe they're aluminum anyway haha.

Thanks for the input guys. I guess I'll look into plating for the non-aluminum stuff then.

I believe there's a black cadmium plating option if you're looking for black.


-Ted

speedjunkie 02-20-2011 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 140932)
:rofl: Uh huh,....... couldn't be when I opened the hood you went, wow that really does look good ;)

Actually to be completely honest, no. A few years ago I decided to go all black, including under the hood, but until last year for the body and this year for the engine bay (since I have the engine out anyway) I didn't feel like stripping the car down to paint it LOL. Your engine bay does look good though haha.

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Originally Posted by Prodigy (Post 140939)
Hey I can do that myself, and it's cheaper!!!!! No need to supply your own datalogit either :rofl:


J.

LOL!!!

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Originally Posted by RETed (Post 140940)
I believe there's a black cadmium plating option if you're looking for black.


-Ted

Awesome, thanks! I'll check into that. Hopefully someone around here can do it.

speedjunkie 03-01-2011 03:54 AM

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So it looks like I'll be getting all the brackets and such electroless nickel plated. They will still conduct electricity so I shouldn't have any trouble grounding the pieces and I was told the trigger wheel won't have any problem feeding info to the crank angle sensors. I'll post up pics when completed.

I also got all my IC piping, manifolds and elbow powder coated and got the LIM and exhaust parts re-ceramic coated. Pic attached.

TitaniumTT 03-01-2011 08:52 AM

NICE! LOVE IT!!! Can't wait to see her again. Who did the coating? SportTuner?

I'm going to have my the trigger wheels for my speed sensors Zinc plated I think. Who is doing the electroless nickle plating?

To_Slow 03-01-2011 12:22 PM

Zinc plating is your best option, I offer the service gold or clear.

Min 100.00$ considering all parts are pre cleaned sand blasted.

That will include allot more than just a timing wheel.
I also offer anodizing to. min is 100.00$

Hope that helps..
http://img602.imageshack.us/img602/7877/bolts001.jpg
Thanks

speedjunkie 03-02-2011 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 141907)
NICE! LOVE IT!!! Can't wait to see her again. Who did the coating? SportTuner?

I'm going to have my the trigger wheels for my speed sensors Zinc plated I think. Who is doing the electroless nickle plating?

I took all the stuff to a place in Denver, Premier Coatings.

I guess he just changed his website, it didn't look like that just a few days again. Anyway, he's a good guy. I got everything done for $400.

As for the electroless...I dropped off all the pieces Monday to a place here in C Springs, Ximpak, but they were going to charge me $190 and they were backed up a couple weeks. There is another place in town that said they could do electroless nickel and they could have it done in 3 days and a lot cheaper, so I picked up the parts from Ximpak and dropped it off at Finishes Limited today. But as it turns out they can't do electroless nickel in black, so I decided to get the steel oxidized black and the aluminum anodized black. The only problem is the alternator casing and the PS/AC bracket have steel pieces in them that I have to get out before they can be anodized and I'm not sure that's possible. In any case, the oxidizing will cost $60 and the anodizing will be $65, so I'm saving quite a bit of money. I've thought about just getting the aluminum (stuff for anodizing) just powder coated instead though. Zico works at a place here in town that shares a building with a powder coating place that will give him a discount. I still need to get the water pump, pump housing and filler neck all done still anyway. I'd also like to get the PS pump done but I'm not sure there is a way to do it that won't do some damage to it somehow.

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Originally Posted by To_Slow (Post 141947)
Zinc plating is your best option, I offer the service gold or clear.

Min 100.00$ considering all parts are pre cleaned sand blasted.

That will include allot more than just a timing wheel.
I also offer anodizing to. min is 100.00$

Hope that helps..
http://img602.imageshack.us/img602/7877/bolts001.jpg
Thanks

Thanks for the offer, but I want to get this stuff done locally. Plus I want all black anyway.

Just out of curiosity though, why is zinc plating the best? I don't know much about all the different options. I did a search on them but there was so much info I just didn't have time to read it all.

TitaniumTT 03-02-2011 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by speedjunkie (Post 142059)
I took all the stuff to a place in Denver, Premier Coatings.

I guess he just changed his website, it didn't look like that just a few days again. Anyway, he's a good guy. I got everything done for $400.

As for the electroless...I dropped off all the pieces Monday to a place here in C Springs, Ximpak, but they were going to charge me $190 and they were backed up a couple weeks. There is another place in town that said they could do electroless nickel and they could have it done in 3 days and a lot cheaper, so I picked up the parts from Ximpak and dropped it off at Finishes Limited today. But as it turns out they can't do electroless nickel in black, so I decided to get the steel oxidized black and the aluminum anodized black.

Cool, some of my parts may be there shortly as well, as soon as they get cut. Looking for some black as well on the steel trigger wheels I'm getting cut.

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Originally Posted by speedjunkie (Post 142059)
The only problem is the alternator casing and the PS/AC bracket have steel pieces in them that I have to get out before they can be anodized and I'm not sure that's possible. In any case, the oxidizing will cost $60 and the anodizing will be $65, so I'm saving quite a bit of money. I've thought about just getting the aluminum (stuff for anodizing) just powder coated instead though. Zico works at a place here in town that shares a building with a powder coating place that will give him a discount.

You might just want to have all those piece ceramic coated so they match the other pieces that you had done. I made the mistake a few years ago of sending all my intake and exhaust pieces out to get ceramic coated, then I powdercoated all the other brackets etc etc myself. Two different blacks, I wasn't pleased. Now everything that I powdercoated, I need to re-powdercoat with a different black.... which is fine as alot of the powder coated got beat up. So hopefully I can match it all this time around with the exception of the HMIC frame and the heatshield for the fuel cell. Niether of those I can fit in my over.

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Originally Posted by speedjunkie (Post 142059)
I still need to get the water pump, pump housing and filler neck all done still anyway. I'd also like to get the PS pump done but I'm not sure there is a way to do it that won't do some damage to it somehow.

I don't think there is a way as the heat will probably do some damage to the internals. RattlecanJohnny to the rescue for me for the WP. Housing I coated though

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Originally Posted by speedjunkie (Post 142059)
Just out of curiosity though, why is zinc plating the best? I don't know much about all the different options. I did a search on them but there was so much info I just didn't have time to read it all.

I'd be curious as well. My thinking is electrical conductivity or corrosian resistance.

To_Slow 03-02-2011 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 142068)
I'd be curious as well.
My thinking is electrical conductivity or corrosian resistance.

That is correct...

speedjunkie 03-02-2011 08:53 PM

I dropped off a few more pieces to get oxidized today.
-the bracket that holds the clutch line to the firewall
-the metal brake booster line and the clamp that bolts it to the firewall
-the box that the stock coils are mounted in (I've decided to move them back to the stock location).

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 142068)
Cool, some of my parts may be there shortly as well, as soon as they get cut. Looking for some black as well on the steel trigger wheels I'm getting cut.



You might just want to have all those piece ceramic coated so they match the other pieces that you had done. I made the mistake a few years ago of sending all my intake and exhaust pieces out to get ceramic coated, then I powdercoated all the other brackets etc etc myself. Two different blacks, I wasn't pleased. Now everything that I powdercoated, I need to re-powdercoat with a different black.... which is fine as alot of the powder coated got beat up. So hopefully I can match it all this time around with the exception of the HMIC frame and the heatshield for the fuel cell. Niether of those I can fit in my over.



I don't think there is a way as the heat will probably do some damage to the internals. RattlecanJohnny to the rescue for me for the WP. Housing I coated though

You're sending your stuff to Premier or you're just saying you're doing the same thing?

Well my engine is going to be black and gunmetal/dark grey, so if there are a few shades of black/grey I won't mind HAHA. They said if it was anodized it would come out a little lighter than black, but that's OK. I'm still thinking about just getting all the remaining stuff powdercoated though. So would powder coating damage the water pump too? Is that what you're saying?

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Originally Posted by To_Slow (Post 142118)
That is correct...

Gotcha.


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