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Mazdabater 06-12-2010 12:05 AM

Mazdabaters peice of crap FC.
 
I was going to go through and try and find some old pictures of the car when I got it, and some of the progress shots but it's too much effort and I got some more stuff planned for the car in the near future. So I figure Ill throw up a list of mods and my plans, then throw some pics later as my build goes on.

I brought the car fairly close to stock back in september 06. Currently its mod list is

Full bare metal respray in a custom red with yellow pearl
Rmagic body kit
17 X 8" front rims and 17 X 9 Rear. Unsure on the brand however they are very light so I don't think they are cheap crap.
Extend ported, dowelled with 2mm seals (possibly loosing compression under boost. Going to be bridgeported with RA super seals next month)
Steam pipe manifold
Pro boost 55mm wastegate
Pro Boost to4z turbo (This pro boost junk is getting replaced as soon as I can afford it, or when it fails whatever happens first. Looking at going to a garret gt42r)
Turbo beanie
3" stainless exhaust with Rotaflo muffler
PWR 55mm core radiator
Spal curved blade 3000+ cfm thermo fan (wired to ecu)
Microtech LT10s with hand controller
Walrbo 255LPH fuel pump
Billet fuel rails
Aeromotive FPR with braided lines
STD primarys and Bosch Indy Blue secondarys (1600cc)
SDR 3" throttle body snout
3" Stainless IC piping
600 X 300 X 76mm Chinese bar and plate intercooler
Tein coilovers with EDFC (electronic suspension controller)
Front and rear strut braces
Front sway bar
Braided brake lines
Diff cradle has been reinforced to stop it from throwing mounts
Coushined ceramic button clutch
Blitz auto turbo timer
Sparco race pedals
RX8 leather shift knob
Momo commando wheel
Aerospeed quick release boss kit
Recaro reclineable seats
Storage bins (my cars a jspec so I struggled to find these)
Optima yellow top battery relocated to passenger bin
Carbon dash insert
Carbon radiator cooling panel
Knightsports boost gauge

That's pretty much what I can think of off the top of my head, there could be more If i find it later I will list. Over the next couple of months it's getting

Rebuild - Will most likely get bridgeported
New ECU loom installed, the original owner had it spliced into the factory loom, looks hideous.
Carbon fan shroud + the panel that goes in front of the radiator. I had made one, but after installing the new intercooler I had to ditch the stock overflow bottle, So I'm gonna make a new one without the hole in it.
New underbody tray (going to add some extra ducting to this to get the air where it needs to go)
PWR oil cooler
Bigger alternator
Working out why the hell my fuel comes back out the fuel cap.

The car is currently making around 310rwhp. Far too low for this setup have tested everything trying to find the problem, have settled with the car loosing compression under boost. Which is why it's getting pulled next month. Aiming for around 450whp.

I'm currently re installing the dash in the car, as I pulled it out to fix up the aircon ducting (stupid foam seals) and re route some wires. Ended up finding a few birdsnests of wires back there that had to be removed.

I found a couple of pics from it after the repsray. Doesn't look quite as nice now as carparks have taken their toll on my doors, and a stupid little girl scratched the back of it riding her scooter too close to my car in the units I used to live in. The car also doesn't have the wing on it or the door handle painted in these pics. I'll take some more pics of it later after I finish putting the dash back in and give it a bath, it's been sitting in the garage for a month or 2 so it's pretty filthy

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...47945ca0fa.jpg
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...2c0ab5f1bf.jpg

My5ABaby 06-12-2010 12:14 AM

Nice. I demand more pictures! :D

project86 06-12-2010 06:17 PM

i wouldnt say its a total piece of crap :)

lh6601 06-12-2010 06:34 PM

Oh god this is quality

Mazdabater 06-12-2010 07:59 PM

Possibly going to start on my new fan shroud tomorrow if I can work out why my windows stopped working. Encountered an electrical gremlin whilst reinstalling the dash. God I hope I don't have to pull it again. Here's a couple of pics of some other carbon bits I have made for her.

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...ec9d4e488f.jpg

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...9ee1f299f2.jpg

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...10de97bc3d.jpg

ZGN 06-12-2010 08:11 PM

Nice, glad to have rotaryholics from all over the world!

:cheers2:

Nismo 06-13-2010 12:51 AM

I really like that Mount for the Plate!

wanganwarrior 06-13-2010 01:31 AM

Thats nice. I love seeing different styles from all over the world! Looks great

Mazdabater 06-13-2010 01:44 AM

Yeah, I kind of got over that mount plate bracket. Trying to come up with a new one. Trouble is I have to buy the carbon myself all the resin and consumables I can use at work.

Here are some more pictures. Sorry about the picture quality of some, they are taken with my phone.

This is a dash insert I made up a while ago, had white face guages in there but didn't like them so I replaced with the standard ones

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...abater/026.jpg

These were listed in my mod list but it actually had some busted ass MOMO pedals in. They were all corroded and horrid looking so i picked up these sparco ones whilst I was down at the WTAC. Just finished installing them an hour ago. A point worth noting, if your cutting steel and you protect your carpet with a rag make sure its not an oily one. My car almost went up in flames LOL saw it quick enough.

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...abater/024.jpg

My stereo install. Not quite finished, have to wait for a mate to get some spare time to trim it for me. Had these amps sitting there and couldn't quite work out where to put them. So I made the bracket up that covers the rear strut brace, gave me somewhere accessable to install the fire extinguisher too.

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...abater/005.jpg

This ones how the battery ended up going into the storage bin. If i take the battery out I can get a proper photo of the mounting bracket I made up for it if anyone really wants. I went with the dry cell battery so I didnt have to worry about making it a sealed box with a vent

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1276411788

This is a current engine bay shot. Ive only really posted it for reference I know there is alot of dodgy stuff there which is all getting fixed up when the engine comes out.

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1276411258

speedjunkie 06-13-2010 08:02 AM

Damn that's sexy. Those wheels look like a set Konig used to make, I don't remember the name of them though. I wanted to get some back in the day though.

Great work on the FC, it's gorgeous!

Mazdabater 06-17-2010 06:17 PM

Had a win followed by a loss yesterday. I just removed all the fuses to triple check they weren't blown and my acc wire one must have been loose. It started getting 12vDC but still wouldn't earth out, either way it worked so I got my head unit and suspension controller running again. The loss is I'm now getting an error code for my front suspension, most likeley one of the wires I cut down and resoldered behind the dash so I'm going to have to pull most of the dash again to fix it. DOH!

prrex4ever 06-17-2010 07:33 PM

Great looking FC, really like your CF work. You sir, have skills.

Mazdabater 06-27-2010 05:36 AM

TODAYS HANDYWORK!! Sorry bout crappy iphone pics. So much useless wiring in this engine bay from the stock ECU I cannot wait to get rid of. Removing this thing was easier then I thought. Aside from the fact a silverback gorilla installed my power steering pump and oil cooler lines.

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1277635245

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1277635245

Mazdabater 07-11-2010 03:03 AM

So to update my build so far.

Engine came apart. Got ripped off by the original engine builder (Dyson Rotary) but at least there was stuff wrong. The tuner I was paying Ben left work at the workshop I was going too, but is doing this stuff out of work for cash which helps me out alot as he is about the only guy in town that knows enough about them. Things wrong include
  • All corner seals springs completely flattened
  • 2 corner seal springs in half
  • 1 side seal 2mm too short, had been wearing on the apex seals
  • Oil control rings were dead, only half of one was found
  • Corner seal o ring things were all missing
  • Crack in the housing - repairable
  • Extend port was barely a port job at all

So this explains why I was only getting 300whp. The car made 90psi on both rotors before pulled apart, but must have been loosing all/most of its compression under load. Ben (engine builder) is getting me a quote on parts for this as he can get them cheaper then I can then thats going to get ordered/built as soon as my tax cheque clears.

Now I'm going to put my list of stuff I need to do to the car while the engine is out/before I get it back on the road on here as I just wrote it down on a bit of cardboard that will probably get lost. Ignore the prices just putting down what it's gonna cost me for my reference and its all in $au anyway.

Parts to buy
  • Front slotted rotors (ebay $155 paid)
  • 2 front wheel studs and nuts (repco)
  • Engine mounts (see ben possible poly ones)
  • Bosch coils and microtech X4 igniter box ($300 ausrotary)
  • Oil cooler ($462 PWR)
  • Air temp sensor (mazda)
  • ECU loom (microtech)
  • Microtech DASH unit ($500 microtech)
  • A/C Condenser (Troy $200ish)
  • S6 Alternater (Troy $200ish) may wait till after rebuild
  • Engine pulleys (purely cosmetic needs alt first)
  • Silicone rad hoses (Ebay)
  • Oil cooler lines (Pirtek, need cooler first)


Parts to make!
  • Underbody tray
  • Windscreen washer bottle <---- DONE!
  • Rad overflow bottle <----DONE!
  • Turbo heat shield (titanium free from work)
  • Rad fan shroud (composite, free from work. Unless I put a carbon layer over the top which I probably will that will be $70 for the metre)
  • New LIM blank off plates (free work, orignal ones done by mechanic were horrid) <---- Done
  • Exhaust side heat shielding (Probably be 301 stainless from work, titanium if there is enough for me to take without the boss knowing. Going to box off all the exhaust manifold, dump pipe and wastegate up to try and keep engine bay heat down)
  • Coil mount brackets (need coils first, will be 7075 t6 from work)


Parts to modify
  • Engine bay wiring (messy as needs to be tidied up)
  • Brake lines (got bent out of the way during respray, never got reinstalled correctly)
  • I/C Piping (need to oxy it and ovalise it between the power steering pump and strut tower)
  • Muffler tip leaking around tip (give to darrell to weld)
  • Seat mount bracket busted (give to darrell to weld) <---- DONE!

Parts to paint

Parts are painted in gloss black 2 pac polyurethane paint, as it's free i just surface prep it and give it to the painters at work. I don't like polishing stuff so I just paint it all black, was going to go matt, but gloss is easier to clean just degrease and hose off.
  • UIM <---- Done!
  • Power steering pump and A/C compressor mounting bracket <---- Done!
  • Waterpump <---- Done!
  • Front cover (Need back from ben after OMP part welded)
  • Throttle body
  • Throttle body snout

And that's about it for now. I'll put some pics up of the progress if I get round too it. I got alot to do in the next month or so. I'll just update this list as I get it done.

Mazdabater 07-16-2010 01:41 AM

Todays handywork! Going to clean em up and paint them monday night at work. Also managed to ruin part of my intercooler piping today, ment to flatten out the sides so it cleared the power steering pump and strut tower better, but accidently hit the top part before I realised. So probably going to remake that part next weekend DOH! Also got my seat mount bracket welded up so it's good to go!

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1279262786

Mazdabater 07-16-2010 04:58 AM

Hmmn damn, just went and checked the fitment. Washer bottle is sweet but my outlet fitting on the overflow one is going to interfere with my IC piping, And i think my inlet might be close to the rad lol. Hopefully if I get some 90 deg fittings it will clear -.-

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1279274665

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_0355.jpg

djmtsu 07-16-2010 06:55 AM

Wow, looking great!

I like those overflow/fluid tanks. Did you make those?

Mazdabater 07-16-2010 07:14 AM

Yeah I did. Well I made them up and got a mate to weld them. Not really out of choice, my IC piping involved removing the washer bottle, and its a roadworthy thing over here so I had to put it somewhere, same with the rad overflow bottle. Well I could have made it fit back in near the old one but tried for there, see if I can save it when i put everything back in if not it might go back near the stock location

Mazdabater 08-02-2010 02:24 AM

Well the red car is on hold. As I got another FC at a crazy cheap price ($1500) off a mate that didn't really know how much it was worth I guess. The cheapest one I could find on carsales.com.au was $5900.

It's completely standard aside from a full 3" stainless exhaust, pod filter and rims (the ones on it in my pic are off the red fc. Put them on as it has roadworthy tires) I'm chasing a standard airbox at the moment. But I'm torn between selling it and spending the money on repairing the engine in my other fc or saving up to fix the other one because I really like the look of the 2 in the driveway. The standard auto is also alot nice to put around town in.

This ones in good nick as far as I can see, interior is absolutely perfect aside from a broken idiot light surround and stupid race pedals, the genuine savanna floormats are a little worse for wear. Aside from that only problems are a tiny bit of rust in the sunroof and the back window frame. Im making a carbon sunroof for it soon.

Best part is, it has working climate control and cruise control.
Worst part is it's auto and I forgot how incredibly slow a std FC is.

Here are the pics!

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_0414.jpg

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_0413.jpg

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_0412.jpg

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_0410.jpg

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_0408.jpg

Max777 08-04-2010 09:33 PM

Damn, this is a moment in history!

It may not make sense to you, but here in the US, we never got the automatic turbo models, only got the standard ones. This is the first time in my life that I see an auto Turbo II FC, so it's a bit shocking.

On that note, your car also does not have a 3rd brake light, which is another first stock.

Rotary no Densetsu 08-04-2010 10:04 PM

I really dig the build man! I love seeing people do FCs up right. Not enough FC guys left in this world, we are a dying breeeeeeed.

Good luck with everything.

Mazdabater 08-04-2010 11:45 PM

Yeah I couldn't turn it down for $1500 it was a steal. Come payday I'm buying an airbox and standard wheels for the white one. Thinking about getting a muffler for it but probably wont bother, the cannon is too loud but I'm just going to sell it. It's a shame it's a really good car and I absolutely live the climate control and cruise control. Oh well.

Mazdabater 08-20-2010 01:06 AM

Well I never put up some pictures of the wheels that came on the white one, 16" watanabes. I finally pulled my finger out and did a little work on the red one. Put the new brake rotors on and stuck the watanabes on there for a look. I reckon they make it look heaps more like a race car. They do need a clean and sorry about the pic quality. The iphone 4 takes awesome day photos, but the flash leaves alot to be desired. What do u guys think

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...abater/047.jpg

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...abater/048.jpg

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...abater/052.jpg

JL1RX7 08-21-2010 09:19 AM

Nice looking car dude! The white looks like it could be a killer also!

diabolical1 08-21-2010 02:51 PM

if i may ... i say if you're not going to hurt too much, keep the white one as a nice little daily putt-putt, and then build the shit out of the red one. you seem to be enamored with the climate control and other creature comforts, so why not?

i can't wait to hear about the bridge whenever it gets done.

Mazdabater 08-21-2010 06:56 PM

I was going to keep it as a put put. That was my original idea, but it's really just not practical as a run around, chews too much fuel and not much place to put stuff, along with the fact that it can't tow a trailer. So I figure I'm just going to sell it and fix the red one. Then I'll either get a cheap 4cyl or buy a motorbike for going to work.

Dazed and Rotarded 08-21-2010 10:25 PM

Good lord what have I been missing!! What a clean build..

wanganwarrior 08-22-2010 12:39 AM

Gotta love the old school look of watanabes

Mazdabater 11-05-2010 04:01 AM

So after a long time, I've finally got the money issues together to get her back on the street. Ordered a 13B-REW for it today that has good compression so all the major parts should be in good nick, just going to get some new seals, a port job and some dowell pins and in she goes. Some parts started coming today, such as my replacement oil cooler. Looks nice eh!

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...abater/016.jpg

Mazdabater 11-21-2010 03:02 AM

Well my engines scheduled to be built and ready to go in around 2 weeks time. So I've gotta pull my finger out and get everything ready to go so I started on the fan shroud today.

It's a bit rough, essentially I'm going to make 2 peices, bond it all together and get it looking good, then lay a layer of carbon over the top and it should look mickey mouse.

Got the base made up, and got the tapered section layed up. Have to wait till tomorrow for it to dry but it's also my birthday so i probably wont end up getting more done until tuesday.

Some pics

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...abater/003.jpg
http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...ater/004-1.jpg
http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...ater/005-1.jpg
http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...ater/006-1.jpg
http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...abater/009.jpg


And since there wasn't a decent pic of it with the watanabes on here, I took one of it sitting in the driveway (I know the cars filthy I haven't washed it since it's been off the road)

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...abater/008.jpg

Mazdabater 03-06-2011 04:50 AM

Gonna bump this thread, finally starting to work on the car again. Should have my new water to air intercooler by the end of the week, Pineapple racing dual EGT gauge rocked up last week and is tapped into the manifold and my engines going down south to my mate that was rebuilding it here this week. Hope to be back on the road in a month or to if I stop spending my money on other things.

speedjunkie 03-07-2011 02:21 AM

Is that Pineapple EGT gauge backlit? I bought one similar to it from Pegasus and it wasn't lit so I couldn't see it at all at night. I don't remember if the Pineapple one comes with a light though.

Mazdabater 03-07-2011 04:36 AM

Yeah it is, comes with the bulb in the packet. Haven't installed it yet though, think I'm going to do an oil pressure gauge at the same time so I can't tell you what it looks like at night. Everything in the kit looked good quality, came packed the same as alot of aircraft parts do. Not going to rate it yet though as I haven't used it. I brought it more for a warning gauge then for tuning.

speedjunkie 03-07-2011 09:56 PM

Oh that's good, I guess I should have gotten that one instead then haha.

Yeah that's the same reason I got mine, just to monitor. Wish I could help you on the oil press gauge. I saw your other thread. The guy that molded his Prosports into the cluster was the first thing I thought of but it sounds like that won't work for you.

Mazdabater 03-07-2011 11:27 PM

Yeah I think they are going to be just too big to replace my stock one

Mazdabater 03-27-2011 12:47 AM

Not much of an update here. Pushed it back in the garage this weekend and had a look at it. Really need to get the engine back in but I think I'm going to have to do some pretty serious modification to get this W2A cooler in. The barrell is fucking massive. I may end up selling it and getting a smaller one, but since I'm a tight ass I think that I'll be modding the car to suit it.

rx71king 03-27-2011 01:19 AM

:leaving:...i would like to see more

Mazdabater 03-28-2011 02:43 AM

Whee a parcel arrived today with my rails and injectors in it =D Got the lot for $625 au. Also got these vents the other day off ebay for $40 thought it was a baragain!

[IMG]http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...abater/020.jpg[/IMG]

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...abater/021.jpg

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...ater/022-1.jpg

Mazdabater 03-28-2011 02:44 AM

Also, can you see what the intercooler may not fit?

LOL


http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/a...abater/017.jpg

rx71king 03-28-2011 02:04 PM

nice looking rails.....why are you trying to use that type of intercooler..?


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