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Whizbang 11-14-2009 03:46 PM

The Rx8 6-Speed into an FB Thread!
 
Im sure much of the information can cross into other chassis.

General Rx8 Transmission Information

Mazda Rx-8 04-current 13B Renesis Gearbox (manual)
1st: 3.815
2nd: 2.260
3rd: 1.536
4th: 1.177
5th: 1.00
6th: 0.787

The most popular "close ratio" conversion i have seen is the miata box. Below is a comparison of the miata box to the Rx8 box given a 9000 shift point and 4.78 final drive (my personal setup).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...rx8vsmiata.jpg


Now here is the 12a transmission i have currently versus the Rx8. much better!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Q/rx8vs12a.jpg


And also the Turbo II's R type transmission (87-88) compared to the Rx8. Again, 1st and 2nd are similar, but from there on out, for my natural aspiration application, the gearing is superior.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...8vsTurboII.jpg

Whizbang 11-14-2009 03:47 PM

Parts Needed For Swap and Other Considerations

-Mazda Rx8 Transmission. 04-08 (not familiar with the newer 09 up models as they are a different manufacture but im assuming this same guide line could work)
-Turbo Flywheel and Clutch (compare 235/240 to the 236 of the Rx8)
-Rx8 Starter
-Rx8 Shifter
-Metal stock for the transmission mount
-Solution for the slave cylinder, will finalize something soon enough
-Final solution for drive shaft will come soon. Output shaft is same as a turbo II though.

Things to Think About

Now my setup lends this swap to be simpler than most. The transmissions in the FB were shorter than the FC chassis so the shifter position is not as effected as the FC will be. For the FC the shifter will move 3.5" forward. This will be less for the FB. Guesstimating around 2" to 2.5" for the FB. Add that to the fact im tall and the shifter location is essentially a non issue.

Also, i dont have a speedometer so the whole electronic speedo thing is a non issue for me. If you happen to want to retain the mechanical speedo, then well, you have problems that im not going to address for you. Real men don't need speedos. Or wear them. Its a man law.

Whizbang 11-14-2009 03:47 PM

Transplanting the Rx8 Transmission

Whizbang 11-14-2009 03:48 PM

Comparing the Rx8 Transmission

Whizbang 11-14-2009 03:50 PM

Results

TitaniumTT 11-14-2009 05:34 PM

:rofl: Lemme know if you need any measurements, diameter, splines, etc etc etc.... I have that box dissasembled on my work bench right now.

Whizbang 11-14-2009 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 101847)
:rofl: Lemme know if you need any measurements, diameter, splines, etc etc etc.... I have that box dissasembled on my work bench right now.

i wouldnt mind an any and all if you can. Also note my pm.

Whizbang 11-14-2009 05:40 PM

in particular, the input and out splines and diameters, length of the transmission, pictures of mount location etc.

Renesisking 05-16-2011 12:20 AM

Subscribed! I am very interested in your results.

Whizbang 05-16-2011 09:33 PM

minor update, i have sourced myself two transmissions, maybe three. Moving at the end of this month so i wont be messing around with that for a little while still. But once i have them on hand ill be taking them apart.

mazpower 06-02-2011 04:26 PM

I'll be doing this soon in my FB with a NA 20B powering it. Gonna move the whole engine back to get the shifter to line up and help with the weight balance a bit.

87T2_FC 06-04-2011 06:46 PM

I am considering this behind a 13bt in my 83 but i see the results are for a n/a app.

Gotpam? 07-18-2011 05:50 PM

Any updates?

Raksj04 10-26-2011 07:43 PM

I thought the RX-8 trans was not that strong. weaker then the TII

speedjunkie 10-27-2011 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gotpam? (Post 158870)
Any updates?

He's deployed right now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raksj04 (Post 169500)
I thought the RX-8 trans was not that strong. weaker then the TII

I've heard it is too, but I'm not sure if this is going to be a boosted application, so it might not matter.


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