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RICE RACING 01-10-2015 04:43 AM

NEW DESIGNS and model numbers on Monday :) ALL READY
3 versions
Horizontal coil orientation x 1
Vertical coil orientation x 2


Resolve issue of physical interference on one coil in location, only seen after many hours analysis and viewing various iterations.
Done major detail redesign of COP Adaptors (internals, spring system, fixing etc, and external) and associated items (mounts etc)....... all good :) now this is 100%. Thank god for CAD model no way you could do this without it !
Will include dimension critical items along with the three pics of the 'options' well only Horizontal and Vertical will have different dimensions.

Some of the internal detail is different in the COP, I wont be sharing this for public consumption here ;) but I guess eventually customers will post it ???? Either way not easy to make regardless let alone check so good luck to copy cats :)

C. Ludwig 01-10-2015 07:25 AM

I'll most likely be down for at least one set.

neit_jnf 01-10-2015 11:41 AM

I'm down for a vertical ghetto set :)

speedjunkie 01-10-2015 12:39 PM

I'm down for a set as long as it fits. Still waiting to hear back from my buddy on that.

RICE RACING 01-10-2015 07:02 PM

No problem, will get around to putting up the detail late today or early tomorrow.
Wanted to stab myself with my verniers yesterday when I saw the fitment problem! however out of it came the opportunity to re-think some design elements of the COP adaptors, and it was worth it.......... better than previous version and I can say that it is more optimized than before.

Saying is true 5% inspiration 95% perspiration, yesterday I felt 99% molestation when I had to go a redesign so many components LOL! :)

All good.

silverfdturbo6port 01-10-2015 09:40 PM

Im ready for the adaptors asap. I will be running them on the 20b

RICE RACING 01-10-2015 11:02 PM

I have a bit of time this afternoon, will smash up the pictures and some dimensions.
Main page and here as well.

speedjunkie 01-10-2015 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RICE RACING (Post 296859)
No problem, will get around to putting up the detail late today or early tomorrow.
Wanted to stab myself with my verniers yesterday when I saw the fitment problem! however out of it came the opportunity to re-think some design elements of the COP adaptors, and it was worth it.......... better than previous version and I can say that it is more optimized than before.

Saying is true 5% inspiration 95% perspiration, yesterday I felt 99% molestation when I had to go a redesign so many components LOL! :)

All good.

You had to redesign them again? Or are you talking about doing V3? What fitment problem are you talking about?

RICE RACING 01-11-2015 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedjunkie (Post 296874)
You had to redesign them again? Or are you talking about doing V3? What fitment problem are you talking about?

:smash: One COP adaptor interfered with the IGN-1A coil when in vertical orientation :smash: so this meant a full redesign of the COP adaptror!!! :smash: I took the opportunity to refine some internal specifications (much better) only took 6 hours work LOL. Then as a result of that I have had to alter the 3 x engine brackets (ghetto Vertical, CNC Vertical, CNC Horizontal) Coil spacers did not need changing! .............. but I had to do allot of work :squint:

Here is all the FINALIZED (please mother go god!) options.
Dimensions are from Trailing plug tip (R7420) to the back edge of the IGN-1A case molding (add plug male and female connections to that), and from the front rotor housing edge to the (next the the end plate) to the furthest protrusion on the COP set up, for the horizontal it sits forward of this edge and the Vertical it sits behind this edge

RRCOP13BREW-IGN1A-HM Horizontal mounting :o15:
http://i.imgur.com/zFSYs7V.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dFiPezL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/M6JX3Av.jpg

RRCOP13BREW-IGN1A-VM Vertical mounting ;)
http://i.imgur.com/OeEemNH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hKsST8C.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gUKv40B.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4amkVA4.jpg

RRCOP13BREW-IGN1A-VF Vertical 'ghetto' fabricated mounting :D
http://i.imgur.com/jpYIuVn.jpg

RRCOP-IGN1A-A COP adaptors for separate supply for DIY'ers :smash:
http://i.imgur.com/p739Gau.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xTnGR9k.jpg

Fendamonky 01-11-2015 01:39 AM

You can count me in for a setup. Since I'm still running PS i figure I'll go with the vertical one, as it'll afford the most possible clearance :)

I think I may have a few other people that are interested as well :)

Dannobre 01-11-2015 02:55 AM

Vertical

marco 01-11-2015 07:01 AM

mainly a lurker on this forum, but I offered up some aem coils vertically to my engine (has side mount alternator) and there looks to be plenty of space. please put me down for a set when they go into production.

RICE RACING 01-11-2015 08:04 AM

*Updated front page of this thread for people who may not know much about how I have been running COP's for a looooooong time, all proven :)*

Some stress analysis

Designed to take over 50kg of load, with less than 0.5mm deflection at its furthest point :)
In actual operation in the engine bay, pretended it was an off road stadium truck jumping lol!!!
The engine bracket will deflect 0.02mm and has a safety factor of around 50! so its plenty strong :)

http://i.imgur.com/4DUU6x0.jpg

RICE RACING 01-11-2015 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkman33 (Post 295946)
I was just holding my ign 1a coild and they are weighty. Im not sure I trust that small mounting point to support them. I love the idea. Just would like to see a more robust mounting method.

Stress and deflection analysis done, see first page :smash:
as said its tough as f*ck :smash:

RICE RACING 01-11-2015 07:26 PM

New M&W CDI coil (COI-006) arrived today.

Will design a 13BREW system around these in vertical fitment, these will not need a COP adaptor :18: since its female on the coil end so will design a bespoke spring arrangement with rubber boot, similar to what I did with the Dynatek CDI coils (only similar that its a linear end on end fitment.

IF no COP adaptor will need new coil bracket spacers.
This is a preferred option.
Will NOT be able to 'interchange' these easily.


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