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TitaniumTT 07-11-2009 05:33 PM

Doubtful it'll happen in the marine world, fiberglass tanks aren't all that common and it seems to take longer than warranties are offered for.

In the automotive world, factory metal tanks don't seem to be effected. Just the ones with an aftermkt coating.

FC3S Murray 07-12-2009 11:13 AM

OH, my mistake. I thought our tanks out of the factory were fiberglass. I guess I have actually never took a look inside my tank even when I did my pump years back.

TitaniumTT 07-12-2009 08:34 PM

Nah Sean, they're metal, but they're coated inside and out. The coating from the factory really doesn't seem to be affected by this shit. The factory definately got that right. The S4 tank that I'm using from my buddy was damn near mint on the inside. That car was pretty much always used though. my tanks sat static for a few years and I think that's when all the rust started. It was all downhill from there.

I'm just hoping that I got it all. I'm still going to be paranoid and constantly check that filter for the next few thousand miles though. Certainly don't want to loose another engine and I'm not going to be running that bosch, way to damn loud.

Turbo II Rotor 07-12-2009 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 91925)
I'm not going to be running that bosch, way to damn loud.

Was that an 044 you had? I'm going to run 2 of them external in the hatch.

EJayCe996 07-12-2009 09:33 PM



Find out what pump he's running, its pretty quiet :rofl::rofl::rofl:

TitaniumTT 07-12-2009 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbo II Rotor (Post 91933)
Was that an 044 you had? I'm going to run 2 of them external in the hatch.

Yup, one 044 in tank. MOUNT AND ISOLATE IT WELL!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by EJayCe996 (Post 91934)


Find out what pump he's running, its pretty quiet :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Yeah that sounds about right :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Turbo II Rotor 07-12-2009 11:06 PM

I made my own holders, it'll be done right.

TitaniumTT 07-13-2009 06:05 AM

I buillt my own intank holder and ther simply wasn't enough room to pad the damn thing. With the padding it would've been too wide to fit into the tank without cutting the top piece out and rewelding a mounting flange on the top of the tank. Not my idea of fun.

What I might do over the winter is mount the Bosch externally under the car and use a -10 hardline from the tank to the bosch. A surge line if you will. Or maybe just mount a surge tank in the quarter well, or the tire well, I dunno. Still up in the air. I need to see what yours sound like when padded properly and finished.

TitaniumTT 07-13-2009 08:01 PM

Pickin up Cryo'ed parts tomorrow - WOOT!

vex 07-13-2009 09:11 PM

Wow... that fuel pump would drive me absolutely nuts.... I would want to rip it out and break it.

TitaniumTT 07-13-2009 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by vex (Post 92003)
Wow... that fuel pump would drive me absolutely nuts.... I would want to rip it out and break it.

Rip it out, hell fuck yeah. I don't know about breaking a $200 fuel pump though when they're pretty silent just sitting on the old workbench :rofl:

vex 07-13-2009 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 92007)
Rip it out, hell fuck yeah. I don't know about breaking a $200 fuel pump though when they're pretty silent just sitting on the old workbench :rofl:

That noise destroys my calm to such a degree I would frankenstien it for the sole benefit of something awesome that can be used with better affect.... maybe a rotating assembly to bounce microwave radiation around the outside of the car causing radar interference. Maybe using it as a DC motor to control intake runner length... so many things to use a motor like that for besides driving me nuts!

MaczPayne 07-14-2009 10:29 AM

Wow, now that's noisy! Turn up the music :)

TitaniumTT 07-14-2009 07:35 PM

boost is my music ;)

Picked up the parts from Dave today...... mmmmmmmmmmm beautiful. Dave is the man, that is all. Grabbing a new feeler gauge tomorrow morning and with any luck will have a shortblock tomorrow night. WOOT! New fast acting thermo-probes (plural) ordered as well as a few misc parts needed.

pics to follow as always

Oh yeah, appt set with Dave for the first dyno session on this engine for Aug 1. We'll be running NS and WG again so looking for 310 - 320 RWHP. Engine #2 made 313 @ 7k. Then I'll start horsing around with the sequential stuff and datalogging a bunch of shite so by mid Aug we can up the boost, the revs, and shoot for 400.

WE3RX7 07-14-2009 09:12 PM

I want to see 400... dont waste our time w/ that 310-320 bs :)

Seriously though, good news... cant wait to see the beast again...

TitaniumTT 07-14-2009 11:34 PM

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Meh, we figure we'll start off light :rofl: I figure 700-1000 miles of breakin, do the initial tune, capture some data and then go back and up the boost and revs when the engine is fully seated.

Parts!

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1247633488

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1247633488


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http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1247633488
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EJayCe996 07-15-2009 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 92155)

ALAS! did you wince as you started?

TitaniumTT 07-15-2009 10:04 PM

Yes

TitaniumTT 07-16-2009 02:10 AM

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Short block assembled - woo!

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1247729269

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1247729269

There should be daily updates for the next week or so............ probably right up until the dyno update

need RX7 07-16-2009 02:45 AM

Damn son, that was fast. :icon_tup:

FC3S Murray 07-16-2009 07:42 AM

THAT was fast! I hate you so much right now :)

WE3RX7 07-16-2009 12:00 PM

That was quick...

TitaniumTT 07-16-2009 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by need RX7 (Post 92241)
Damn son, that was fast. :icon_tup:

I have shiny parts, I need to do something with them

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Originally Posted by FC3S Murray (Post 92253)
THAT was fast! I hate you so much right now :)

:rofl: You'll be there soon enough...... ok not soon enough but you know what I mean ;)

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Originally Posted by WE3RX7 (Post 92271)
That was quick...

I don't fuck around. I also have no patience. I'm also thinking about offering rebuilds seeing as how once I have the parts I can turn them around in a day........ actually giving ALOT of consideration to it, like I probably would.

project86 07-21-2009 12:49 AM

so i just took a closer look at the picture of you bumper installed... it looks like the shine bumber you have is made to go over the bottom half of the stock fenders so you dont have to cut them?

classicauto 07-21-2009 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by EJayCe996 (Post 92211)
ALAS! did you wince as you started?

I wouldn't until I actually put the first cut in it :lol:

TitaniumTT 07-21-2009 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by project86 (Post 92499)
so i just took a closer look at the picture of you bumper installed... it looks like the shine bumber you have is made to go over the bottom half of the stock fenders so you dont have to cut them?

Yeah, that's right. That's why I welded the brackets on the bottom of my fenders, to keep the bumper in place. No cutting required, but there is a lot of creative mounting that needs to be addressed

TitaniumTT 07-21-2009 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by classicauto (Post 92518)
I wouldn't until I actually put the first cut in it :lol:

:rofl: I tried not to think about what I was actually doing until it was already done. Making the cut was the easy part. The hard part will be venting it and making it look good. I should've done it to my steelie POS..... oh well. I have access to the GK hood now, actually we all do. Check out the aftermkt hood thread ;)

FC3S Murray 07-21-2009 03:49 PM

Whats the status on your build bro?

TitaniumTT 07-21-2009 08:49 PM

Should be stabbing the engine tomorrow, driving by Friday, on the dyno 8/01

Keep looking at the hood in disbelief that I took a Jigsaw to it :rofl:

TitaniumTT 07-26-2009 11:21 PM

So I FINALLY got the engine in tonight. My original mani was toast, or so I thought. I asked a buddy to send his old one to me so I could use it. He had some family problems so he never sent it and I was kinda forced to get mine back up to snuff. When she went lean on the dyno the mani got so damn hot that every single stud warped. The three fittings that I had installed for the EMAP, and the EGT's were basically welded to the mani. Took the machine shop three days to get all the fittings out, redrill and retap, and pull out two busted studs and heli-coil them. I strait edged the mani and the turbo's and then seemed fine so we'll see what happens when she fires....... hopefully tuesday at this point. Still planning on being on the dyno late saturday the first......... hint hint Bill :rofl:

MaczPayne 07-28-2009 04:34 PM

Yeesh, now that's a quick tear-down and assembly.

TitaniumTT 07-28-2009 04:55 PM

:rofl: It would've been quicker if I wasn't waiting a week doing nothing but touching myself staring out the window waiting for a part that I still haven't seen yet. Oh well, my mani is back on and she should fire tomorrow night.

Phoenix7 07-28-2009 05:08 PM

man, a little too much info on the last one but I'm still jealous of your garage and end results with the FC. Keep it up man, love the amount of work that went into the actual engine/accessories to ensure you know what's happening at all times.

EJayCe996 07-28-2009 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 93093)
:rofl: It would've been quicker if I wasn't waiting a week doing nothing but touching myself staring out the window waiting for a part that I still haven't seen yet.

fvking the story of my life with this goddamn swap myself.. my injectors come tomorrow at least so after that, all i need is a down pipe and some various lines/fittings

TitaniumTT 07-31-2009 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix7 (Post 93096)
man, a little too much info on the last one but I'm still jealous of your garage and end results with the FC. Keep it up man, love the amount of work that went into the actual engine/accessories to ensure you know what's happening at all times.

Thanks man. The sensors are great to have. For example, when engine #4 lost a rotor all I had to do is look at the EGT's to find the dead soldier.

So ah................. what's up with the new sig?

TitaniumTT 07-31-2009 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EJayCe996 (Post 93114)
fvking the story of my life with this goddamn swap myself.. my injectors come tomorrow at least so after that, all i need is a down pipe and some various lines/fittings

:lol: I have no patience, when something breaks and I don't have a back-up, people fear for thier lives ;)

Fittings suck, I keep one of each of every angle of every so I don't have to guess. Instant blood pressure increase when I spend a few $100 on fittings and line and then shit doesn't fit.

For example, I found out I burned out a few coils, and I spent an hour or so calling every single GM dealer and autoparts store in a hundred mile radius looking for them. They were 90 miles away and I actually had to think about spending 3 hours in the truck to get up there to get them as opposed to waiting till tomorrow. People say I'm impatient, I don't think so. I just think they're lazy :rofl:

TitaniumTT 07-31-2009 07:31 PM

So I figure it's about time for an update. Got the engine in all checked out. Comp was 145F & 150R - high from all the assembly goo. So I triple checked the timing, primed the fuel system, made sure there was oil pressure and hit the Start button. She fired on the first crank in less than 5 seconds. WOOT! She ran for 15 minutes before I lost the front rotor..... a sound I know all to well. So I looked at the EGT's, found out it was the front and shut her down.

Pulled the plugs and, of course they were wet, stuffed the comp tested in there and found ~120F and 130R.... OK........ that's good but WTF?

So started checking all the normal things which is actually retardedly easy with the Motec. There is a function called output test. I found out that the trailing plugs and the #1 Leading weren't firing...... mmmmmmmmkay. Checked all the electrical going to them, checked the leads, checked everything except the coils themselves becuase there is no data on how to manually check them, they're all on OBDII cars so they just plug the tester into the port and they know all they need to know.

So I switched some wiring around and found out that, yup, they're dead. Went into the Motec and found out that they're all being slightly overdwelled. In talking with Motec (again, the support with them is ridiculous, absolutely top notch and couldn't ask for anything better) I discovered that something that they consider to be common knowledge is to unplug the coils when doing firmware updates and it's kind of a good ideal to do it if there are a lot of ECU resets that need to happen. I was changing a bunch of things in the 3 maps that I use and the ECU was reset probably about 20 times in the course of a few minutes. That could've caused it too. Either way, I killed $260 worth of coils. Something thatI won't soon forget. So now I have to wait for napa to get me some new coils and hopefully we'll be back on track tomorrow.

BTW Bill, new Dyno Day is 08/10. I'll be there ~ 10, just sayin' ;)

EJayCe996 08-01-2009 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 93373)
She ran for 15 minutes before I lost the front rotor..... a sound I know all to well. So I looked at the EGT's, found out it was the front and shut her down.

Pulled the plugs and, of course they were wet, stuffed the comp tested in there and found ~120F and 130R.... OK........ that's good but WTF?

Your wording sooooooo fcuking had me for a min and had me about to do a tactical facepalm until I kept reading and found out it was just the coils. Seriously.... YOU'RE stressing ME out over YOUR car :rofl::rofl::rofl:

FC3S Murray 08-01-2009 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by EJayCe996 (Post 93426)
Your wording sooooooo fcuking had me for a min and had me about to do a tactical facepalm until I kept reading and found out it was just the coils. Seriously.... YOU'RE stressing ME out over YOUR car :rofl::rofl::rofl:

I KNOW!! I was actually feeling a huge pit in my gut when I read that. I was thinking NO FUCKING WAY, I AM DONE WITH THESE P.O.S PLATFORMS :):)

Brian you are a perfect example of the phrase: Patience is a virtue

need RX7 08-01-2009 11:59 PM

:rofl: I nearly had a panic attack


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