B,

You know Foot control is the only TC you need. :p

Oh yeah, I got my radiator, steel line, and tools in a few days ago. I may be doing some welding this weekend if the weather's right. A much better mounting scheme in the works, plus ducting, and some bulk head fittings still need to be done. But I think my plan will actually make you slightly jealous.

fwGp :lol: GO gerbil power GO!

I demand sketchs and details...... NOAW

:smilielol5: Exactely..... insights don't make hp, they make me cry with laughter.... silly little cars.

UPDATE:

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!! PARTS CAME IN!!!!!!!!!!!! My sensors showed today, I got 2/3's of the quotes back for the waterjetted trigger wheels, delivery time I was told is not going to be an issue, Firzen is the man and overnighted the new ABS knuckles to me so tomorrow the plan is to template the triggers up so I can give the go ahead on the wheels first thing Monday and have a TC system squared away by the end of the week.

Should be picking up the trans/rear early next week, injectors/coils should be here Monday, now all I need is time :rofl:

Sensors and a MoTeC engineers personal rotary ignition system..... mmmmmmm :drool: Can't wait to see how CDI matchs up with inductive on the dyno. SOOOOO looking forward to this test.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1269632560

hmmm interesting, we still need to talk figures though i dont even know if i can afford everything yet, i might be forced to pass on the powdercoating till after deals

but like i said, for the actual work im not so worried about it, i know things will come together just like they always do

im more worried about prices, its the thing that sucks and forces me to budget..... :( i hate budgeting

im looking forward to the results on this as word on the street the inductive gives better low rpm drivability from the 'long burn' but the CDI is better up top under pressure and fluids. specifically igniting high amounts of meth/water :icon_tup:

z

oh almost forgot, seats are amazing, like im getting a great big hug from my car, i cant wait for the engine to get tuned so i can really blast around the turns to fully test them out :)

I wouldn't worry about the powdercoating prices. Alex and I talked it over. Since everything is in house, the price will probably surprise you.

Awesome, glad to hear it. Be careful. The first thing that I noticed about those seats over my Corbeaus was you cannot feel speed nearly as well. I got on the highway, popped 5th and just started cruising one night, very few cars on the rd, thought to myself, "Why is everyone driving like a blind old lady?" Looked down and I was going 115mph :rofl:

Me too. There's alot of us that feel that the inductive nature of the spark will lead to a better burn, more torque etc etc over a CDI on a properly tuned engine. The rotor speed is just so much slower than that of a piston it just seems logical. Like you said though, when you get to much higher chamber pressures, the inductive may not me able to light it off. This is where CDI comes into play. I don't think my engine is at that line where I'll see a benefit, but this is what the testing is all about.

Unfortuneately, there is no water/meth on the FC. It's in the plan for the FD, but setup in a way that I haven't seen a rotary done before. I'm sure I'll be back on the dyno testing a CDI setup vs the winning inductive coil on that engine as well. Looking for 500wheel on that bad ride.....

Time will tell..... assuming I keep getting parts in when they're supposed to be here.

-Brian

I could give you a simple (hand drawn) sketch of my plan and some details, but it might be a little much for me to make a 3D engineering sketch for it. I've just done a simple test design in Inventor--But what I really have planned will make you think it's pure genius!

interested on the meth setup for the FD. assuming some type of high speed valve controlled by the motec?

z

Yup, two ways I'm thinking about doing it. Either real injectors, or a pump controlled by a PWM output to vary the pressure and the flow.

There's going to be a few other failsafes in there as well all monitored and controlled by the MoTeC. Pressure comp maps, low level warnings, etc etc etc

Whatever you got, send it over or post it up.... I wanna see :D

Posted. Sorry about the quality of the pics. It's the best I could do.

http://www.rotarycarclub.com/rotary_...837#post113837

:bowdown: I think if I ever have a third as much knowledge about these engines as TTT I can die a happy man.

Thanks Tyler. looks great... I posted a ? in the thread.

eppo37 - Thanks man.

I would tend to believe the iunductives will do better in this case also. Although a different coil, my inductive setup on the TECgt is monstrously powerful. I can't quantify it due to the lack of back to back's, but in comparison to other systems I've ran including two jacobs leading coils and seperate jacob's amps on each (can you say welding arc?) this system stacks up well. I am inclined to think the level that inductive's would run out of steam on is probably quite high. Super anxious to see the results of this setup though.

I heart M&W btw :)

Oh, and who did the plug wires??

lol... i try and try to follow this thread but if i miss even ONE day of check up on it there are already like 7 more pages added... and then i have to read alot.....hahaha

:smilielol5: Just wait a few more days till I get this winter job out of the way, parts galore come in Monday, tranny and rear tuesday etc etc... Next week will be FILLED with updates, hopefully daily. Heading there right now actually to get some more wiring done...... after I spent the morning doing marine wiring, it's off to do automotive wiring.... it never ends!

I agree with you Joe. Unless there's TONS of meth and boost to the point where an inductive doesn't have the energy to spark, I think inductives will do much better for a rotary. But we'll see. The FD will most likely see alot more boost and meth as well so I suspect I'll be repeating the test with the winning coil vs the winning CDI.

I love some M&W as well, I'm curious, I hope I don't hurt any feelings ;)

The pulg wires were built by the engineer @ MoTeC that owns the equipment. I've got at least one more order to place with them before this car is done, so what I plan to do is order ~20' of that wire, and all new boots and terminals as well and all new plug wires using the same wire for each. This way someone that sells says the D585's in a kit can't claim that it was the wires that caused those coils to come in where they did, if that happens to be the case.

Where the Hell is Bill BTW???? I need coils from him.

Aight rotards, off to dive into some more TC/chassis/PD wiring.....:banghead:

You guys are nuts.

I don't have a tenth of the ambition (or $$$) to do this much work, in this amount of time.

I did polish the headlights on the RX-8 today :)

If I blow up this POS at DGRR, you guys have to rebuild it......I will be timing you.

And if you take too long, you get one of these :icon_no2:

Lets not forget that one saturday I went to Daves for some Dyno tuning, did a comp test first, found a sticky corner seal. Went home, partied my ass off, recovered sunday starting working on the car Monday night after work and the next saturday was back on the dyno...... tough week but it was done ;)

lmao!!

you know....now that the cars pretty much done....i find...im really bored!!!!

i think im either going to start working on my FC, which will soon be my brothers...so you know hes gona be helping

or looking for another rotary car to use as an all out track project

:117: HEY EVERYONE, LISTEN UP! Helghast7 just said he's got money to burn and wants a roller. Be the first to PM him an offer.....

lol it was speculation, i didnt say i was ready for one quite yet..though i guess i did write it like that huh??...it depends on how crazy my brother wants to go with the ol' FC

but besides that my plans for that next car arent finished yet, and i usually have a base plan to go by before i start any new projects or else things wont ever get done

but when i say all out track car i mean crazy all out...like.....nahh cant say..its top secret :)

Not to worry, I have 1 genuine government issued SECRET clearance. I speak secret squirrel. :001_302:

lmao!!! oh now we cant have that, havent you heard? skunks cracked the code, we moved onto chipmunk

:smilielol5:

If you're gonna do a track car, do something cheap, like a Miata, and then have us put a 13B in it :suspect:


UPDATE: Wiring takes WAY TOO FUCKING LONG TO DO IT RIGHT! And it NEVER comes out as clean as I want it too..... that annoys me.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1269927280

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1269927280

More Updates - Got a delivery from Paul Yaw today :D

5450cc's of fuel flow, yes, two ID725's and two ID2000's

Also got the top secret Bosch coils in as well... Cannot wait to get these parts on the rig. My only regret is that my custom 2ndary fuel rail won't be done in time. Oh well, over the summer I guess. It won't help any with flow, but it will look atlot better and keep the plumbing a bit neater as well. Awesomeness to come.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1269927280

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1269927280

Oh yeah, there's a planned allnighter either Friday or saturday just to try to stay ahead of it all. Getting down to the wire and she don't even role yet.

miatas to easy :)

i enjoy the difficult stuff, plus i love the platform ive been working with thus far

besides, everyone and there mother tracks a miata

dont you worry, when im ready and start to get the ball rolling you know your going to get calls from me about welding parts

i just hope your ready to deal with all the custom things im planning ;)

All the talk of race cars I figured I would corrupt your thread with my new project. Sorry!! Just picked it up last Saturday. Long term( 3-5 yr) track car project. Building what I consider the "ultimate track FD". 93' SS touring or base model to start life. I am throwing it on the frame rack to check everything out and fix if needed. Then it comes back for a loong rest while I aquire a seat and steering column and rack in preperation for a mac-daddy cage. Mean time I will be removing sound deadner with Dry ice and a BFH!

Here are some cramped garage shots of the new 7. It came with no hood,front or rear bumper, and broken hatch glass. NOTHING on the inside. Damage to the passenger side in front of the rear tire. Possible frame damage but not bad IMO. Nothing a pro can't fix. The car was getting picked up by a scrap metal yard and I "saved" it. 1 mans junk is another mans treasure.

The best part was how much.. I guess with trailor rental and the 20 bucks for the front fenders I paid...$75.00, for the entire thing!!( It was actually free, but we all know there are NO free puppies)!

http://i40.tinypic.com/30wnqc1.jpg
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http://i43.tinypic.com/21cwhp0.jpg
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and the damaged side: he hit a "mailbox"
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That is an AWESOME find man... congrats.... now THAT is the perfect candidate for race car.... if you're lurking Alex, take note.... perfect race car candidate, mine is the perfect resto candidate.

Really nice find. What are the plans for powa?

This alex (me) or another alex?

Business partner Alex ;) (How've you been? don't see ya around much.) When I got back from NC with my new FD still on the trailer, first thing he says is, "I know you're going to veto me, but this is the perfect race car candidate." I highly disagree.

I need an FD roller than i can have sit in the garage for me to stare at.

My long term engine plans are a N/A 20B with ITB's. But that is at least 5 years away. Mean time it will be a REW based single or stock twins. I want around 300-400 RWHP out of the REW and 350-4 from the 20B when it is done. That in itself is a whole monster build on its own.

First thing to do is the frame rack. Then the treasure hunt is on for parts:D I am going to run mainly Time trials and have had a long burning desire to run the Targa New Foundland road rally. So A passenger seat will be built into the cage design.

And yeah , this is the perfect track canidate, I can buy a running street FD for less than it would cost to piece it back together.

i would do the targe newfoundland if this was listed on the applicated

"$ 4995 + tax"


pikes peak is only like 1250 if you register really early.

argh!!! darn Dave...im shitting bricks

any updates Brian?

I would say poor Dave, not darn Dave, saw him Wednesday I think?

Update, car still doesn't roll and after 3 redbulls, 2 Monster Java's, a pack of smokes and a 3 hour stint we got the LS in Alex's car, tranny, driveshaft and most of the wiring done in his car. Virtually all the wiring in my car is done in the interior. Very minor things to done from the firewall forward as far as wiring is concerned, still haven't put a damn thing on the car from the firewall forward. Re-wired basically the entire car. It's fucking sweet, just hope it works

Got my tranny, need to paint it and build a mount
Still need to build a fuel cell - those are the two big things. Other than that I need 2 days, one for the interior and to finish up the wiring, the other to do the mechanical, and somewhere in between that and finishing helping painting Alex's panels, build a fuel cell.

well i look it in two ways, poor Dave because the inspectors are giving him hell over stupid bull crap, but with a touch of darn Dave for doing the move right before the big meet

if we had to look at a ratio its 99.9% poor/ .1% darn

its mostly me getting nervous as all hell, to the point were im debating wether to find a dyno i can rent for a day and have Dave tune 1 or 2 of us there lol

regardless, clocks ticking and the closer it gets the more i dread the thought of driving to NC on a base map

as for your car, whats your expected date of completion? or your still unsure?

did i ever mention that you should buy stock in energy drink companies? lol

Ya know, Dave was planning on attending DGRRX but had to cancel.

If you do decide to get a dyno for the day, lemme know, i may join. Right now I'm planning on just cruising around CT for a few nights and doing some on rd tuning to .78L... nice and safe.

As for completion date.. well, we're leaving on Thursday morning @ 6 am, so 5:47 she should be done :rofl:

Whhen are you guys leaving/caravaning?

yea i know, i talked to him about it, was looking forward to him coming along, its a bummer he cant make it

yea ill let you no if we do...im just kind of winging it...which i dont usually mind doing...but not for something like a tune

and we actually have two groups, first one wich is the bigger of the two is leaving wed night at about 9pm, second group is leaving thursday morning, but i dont no what time there leaving