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RICE RACING 01-08-2015 09:39 AM

It's hard for people to see as they don't have the CAD detail but these coils have a flat shoulder near the mounting tabs, if you pay close attention you will see all 4 ends on the coil spacers are different lengths to makes sure the butt up against these flat shoulders, so when a bolt is installed the coil cannot drop down or up or rotate at all, its not physically possible, thus the second mounting tab is redundant.

The GOLD coil spacers are so strong that to deflect them would need over 100kg of force and then the movement is minimal.

You could add (LOL I COULD!) in another middle mount in the coil spacers but would be not needed and just make it heavier and more complex, then it would need specialist cutting of both coils and you could not run two M7 bolts next to each other like that as there is no wall to thread both, let alone the head for the fastener and it would look stupid and serve no real purpose except for being along for the ride, thus I designed it as it is.

And its solid, cant move anywhere.

p.s. Th gold legs lost the feature on the bottom of the locking I describe, you see it in the silver versions!

Should fit the stock set up now with ease.

ETA dunno, hopefully soon once I see how many people want them?

Fendamonky 01-08-2015 09:42 AM

Awesome! Well, count me in for a set of mounts/COP adapters :)

(Though, if there will be color anodizing/coating options I'd rather have a gloss or flat black as opposed to gold ;) hehe)

RICE RACING 01-08-2015 10:03 AM

This is what it will look like, not rounded like the GOLD one, I was just fucking around with it. too hard to make like that too much machining :banghead:

In these pics you can see the shoulder thing I was describing on each coil making them impossible to move once bolted by a single tab.

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Originally Posted by RICE RACING (Post 296550)

OFF to be another fucking 2am day!

RENESISFD 01-08-2015 10:34 AM

^ Just a thought, what is the approximate distance from the housing is the back of the coil including the plug socket? For us LHD people is there a possibility of interference with the steering shaft?

t_g_farrell 01-08-2015 10:39 AM

This is very cool. Would this fit 12A spacing by just twisting the COP adapters a bit or does
the bracket need to be modified to do that? I suspect the twisting the adaptors won't line
up with the plugs well.

Whats the ballpark $$ on this? We talking 100s or 1000s of dollars? Plus shipping of course.

TitaniumTT 01-08-2015 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RICE RACING (Post 296545)
OK

V3 vertical version
This will involve trimming off one tab on each coil.
Mounting is perfect, same merits as V2, full supported (detail in coil spacer mounts) and interlocked in engine bracket mount.

I officially call this the H for homo version cause its a big letter H :smilielol5:
Made especially for my friend Brian ;)
If this does not clear everything rip the c-u-n-t out and put in a chev :Chevy_anim:

:smilielol5: :rofl: Thanks Peter! :icon_tup::willy_nilly:

RICE RACING 01-08-2015 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_g_farrell (Post 296578)
This is very cool. Would this fit 12A spacing by just twisting the COP adapters a bit or does
the bracket need to be modified to do that? I suspect the twisting the adaptors won't line
up with the plugs well.

Whats the ballpark $$ on this? We talking 100s or 1000s of dollars? Plus shipping of course.

Thanks,

If I were Adobe I should charge around $20,000 for this :biggrinjester:

But seriously I hope it to be in 100's range rather than 1000's cause otherwise I myself will run high tension leads :D or rip it all out and put in a boat anchor engine haha.

On the 12A front:
* COP Adaptors are universal (fit anything) :smash:
* Engine bracket needs redesign per engine
* Coil spacer brackets need adjustment to suit spark plug spacing in X & Y dimensions

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3...r0042rz4rt.jpg
Would have to design an engine bracket mount that uses the bottom large hole in the center plate :smash:

Best to put a 13B-REW in it :smash:
http://www.bfhracing.org/duck/withmanifolds.jpg

RICE RACING 01-08-2015 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RENESISFD (Post 296577)
^ Just a thought, what is the approximate distance from the housing is the back of the coil including the plug socket? For us LHD people is there a possibility of interference with the steering shaft?

I have this dimension listed earlier on in the thread (spark plug tip to back of coil inc plug and harness connection estimate, V3 sits lower too v's V2 horizontal version), people need to check that one out, there is not much else I can do in the design sadly, it tweaked to within a mm of its life now. :smash:

RICE RACING 01-08-2015 04:43 PM

Have designed some little 'limit locks' that go under the cover plates, these lock the stroke of the spring, and can be placed by the customer to lock the COP adaptor to the coils or to the plugs (axial movement with range of groove/slot) when taking shit on and off...... idea is to lock it to the coil though.

TitaniumTT 01-08-2015 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RICE RACING (Post 296630)
Thanks,


Best to put a 13B-REW in it :smash:
]

:smilielol5:

Quote:

Originally Posted by RICE RACING (Post 296632)
I have this dimension listed earlier on in the thread (spark plug tip to back of coil inc plug and harness connection estimate, V3 sits lower too v's V2 horizontal version), people need to check that one out, there is not much else I can do in the design sadly, it tweaked to within a mm of its life now. :smash:

Sooooooooooooo who has a LHD FD with an engine in it?

RICE RACING 01-08-2015 05:46 PM

I tidied up the design of V3, this is the latest spec with rounded brackets, and showing the boss detail to lock in the coils with single bolt, fixed holes M7x1 threaded for coil mounting and M5 hole to Engine bracket mount.
I think it looks good ?

http://i.imgur.com/kUNLhhW.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2pUd8S4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9byAxhD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XmIoGsQ.jpg

RICE RACING 01-08-2015 05:59 PM

Couple of high quality images for you to beat off too....

http://i.imgur.com/m65sABU.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/VndUEZh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/kHa1iZs.jpg

RICE RACING 01-08-2015 07:18 PM

Little video..............


RICE RACING 01-08-2015 07:40 PM

Another small revision to the coil spacers, cosmetic mostly larger radi in the coil section (fill it out) and transition to the center bracket.

This maybe the 'expensive version' versus the one that can essentially be fabricated! (flatter versions), it just depends on if people want a work of art or are cost focused :dunno:

http://i.imgur.com/2zA5bPY.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KGNJRIO.jpg

2gslse 01-08-2015 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 296643)
:smilielol5:



Sooooooooooooo who has a LHD FD with an engine in it?

I do.:fawk:

I'll talk to ya later


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