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TitaniumTT 12-28-2009 11:34 PM

Cool, Thanks for the tip Tyler. And yes, you can bet your ass there will be plenty of custom parts :D

Is SakeBombs kit a dual light ala my headlights/Knightsport kit? I never saw pics of the lights themselves, but in skimming through the thread, it looks like an H4 replacement.... I are confused

MaczPayne 12-28-2009 11:59 PM

SakeBomb HID's, I wished they made em for the FC :(

Force13b 12-29-2009 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 105449)
Cool, Thanks for the tip Tyler. And yes, you can bet your ass there will be plenty of custom parts :D

Is SakeBombs kit a dual light ala my headlights/Knightsport kit? I never saw pics of the lights themselves, but in skimming through the thread, it looks like an H4 replacement.... I are confused

Awesome when's the first group buy? Check out some of Adam (afgmoto1978) he has some great stuff you should check out could help with some fab ideas.

It is an H4 replacement with a projector and HID system a cool setup. I was going to make my own kind of setup buying the projectors and mounting them in the housing, but have them done and adjusted right would be a lot of work. From what i've heard the knightsport kits aren't very bright.

TitaniumTT 12-29-2009 12:22 PM

I haven't heard anything about the KnightSports being dull, but that's an easy fix. I am more interested in the KnightSports Shrouds. If I could buy just the shrouds, that would be ideal. In fact, maybe what I'll do is try to get my hands on a set of shrouds - TRAY - and pull a fiberglass mold so I can reproduce them myself, and then use a different housing, I LOVE the Hella 90MM moduales that I have, as a bonus, Hella offers them as TRUE LEGAL HIDS as opposed to the rebased H9's that I have. They work great, the cutoff is amazing, there's no glare even if you're standing infront of them kneeling, and nobody that I've ever been driving behind has ever complained about them even when I've asked, so they are great housings, just not "entirely legal" :( I need more time

EJayCe996 12-29-2009 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 105484)
I haven't heard anything about the KnightSports being dull, but that's an easy fix. I am more interested in the KnightSports Shrouds. If I could buy just the shrouds, that would be ideal. In fact, maybe what I'll do is try to get my hands on a set of shrouds - TRAY - and pull a fiberglass mold so I can reproduce them myself, and then use a different housing, I LOVE the Hella 90MM moduales that I have, as a bonus, Hella offers them as TRUE LEGAL HIDS as opposed to the rebased H9's that I have. They work great, the cutoff is amazing, there's no glare even if you're standing infront of them kneeling, and nobody that I've ever been driving behind has ever complained about them even when I've asked, so they are great housings, just not "entirely legal" :( I need more time

*cough* you drive an RX-7...TWO in fact (sorta) legal? LEGAL? ARE YOU MAD?

Force13b 12-29-2009 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 105484)
I haven't heard anything about the KnightSports being dull, but that's an easy fix. I am more interested in the KnightSports Shrouds. If I could buy just the shrouds, that would be ideal. In fact, maybe what I'll do is try to get my hands on a set of shrouds - TRAY - and pull a fiberglass mold so I can reproduce them myself, and then use a different housing, I LOVE the Hella 90MM moduales that I have, as a bonus, Hella offers them as TRUE LEGAL HIDS as opposed to the rebased H9's that I have. They work great, the cutoff is amazing, there's no glare even if you're standing infront of them kneeling, and nobody that I've ever been driving behind has ever complained about them even when I've asked, so they are great housings, just not "entirely legal" :( I need more time

The sakebomb setup has an amazing cut off, if you look at there little flash vid it shows how well the beam comes out
http://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php?...2&postcount=23

My car hasn't been "legal" in years

TitaniumTT 12-29-2009 02:01 PM

Hey! I passed a legitamate emmisions test! I didn't have to bribe anyone to get my stickers........ or course right after the test was done I put all that fuel back in the map and as soon as I got home I pulled the Cat off and stored it in the basement.... but I'm still legal :smilielol5:

Lighting seems to get the cops in a tizzy becuase of saftey concerns.... it's an easy to spot thing sometimes.

Force13b 12-29-2009 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 105495)
Hey! I passed a legitamate emmisions test! I didn't have to bribe anyone to get my stickers........ or course right after the test was done I put all that fuel back in the map and as soon as I got home I pulled the Cat off and stored it in the basement.... but I'm still legal :smilielol5:

HA well if we didn't have visuall inspection i'm sure i could pull that off as well. Shit with meth i'll bet i could pass without a cat, problem is CA blows dead goats

MaczPayne 12-29-2009 07:01 PM

Visual inspections fail ALL.

TitaniumTT 12-29-2009 07:31 PM

I'm waiting for CA to implode under it's own fail.

Force13b 12-30-2009 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 105521)
I'm waiting for CA to implode under it's own fail.

After seeing the rolling smog stations that are going up in socal i'm wondering if the ACLU would have something to say about it. For the most part the ACLU is a buch of wack jobs but CA is getting nutty with this shit

need RX7 12-30-2009 07:40 PM

Not to thread jack or anything but...

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Originally Posted by Force13b (Post 105617)
rolling smog stations

I had to google that and... WTF?!?!?!?
Jeez... http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2694141

I'm glad I don't live there. I wonder if any rotary owners have ever been involved in a high speed chase after 'suspiciously avoiding a checkpoint' :lol:.

Force13b 12-30-2009 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by need RX7 (Post 105619)
I had to google that and... WTF?!?!?!?
Jeez... http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2694141

I'm glad I don't live there. I wonder if any rotary owners have ever been involved in a high speed chase after 'suspiciously avoiding a checkpoint' :lol:.

Welcome to Commiefornia!

Yeah crazy shit. This has to be some kind civil liberties violation

vex 12-30-2009 09:16 PM

I remember something about unreasonable search and seizure... Hell put up enough of a stink and not roll down your window they can not detain you without probable cause--and refusing to put your car on a dyno or have it inspected/searched is not reasonable cause.

Force13b 12-31-2009 12:39 PM

Hey brian thought you'd like this lighting setup

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Originally Posted by David Hayes
Merry Christmas! Hope Santa is good to you.

Wanted to update you on my progress with retrofitting my car with an OEM-quality HID sleepy eye kit. If you've followed my 20B conversion thread, you'll know the pain I've gone through getting the conversion done. The good news is the process is now at an end thanks to Jesus Padilla and Kilo Racing in Orlando so I am now at a point where I can turn my attention to the little things that I don't like about the car and the biggest of those is the inferior 1990's lighting.

I have waited patiently for a kit to be built that meets my needs of vastly improving the lighting of the car while also enhancing its aesthetics. To me, this means retaining the pop up feature of the lights but making the pop up mechanism more modern, or not having it go so high up. This also means improving the functionality of the very weak lighting by bringing it up to today's HID performance standards. Finally, from an aesthetic perspective, I want to do something that looks like it might be on a car of today.

To date, none of the pop up kits have met my functionality and aesthetic standards. Kits like the Knightsports ones improve the pop up looks of the lights but aren't very good with actually improving the lighting on the car. Other kits like the one currently offered as a bi-xenon pop up upgrade dramatically improve the lighting of the FD but IMO leave much to be desired from an aesthetic perspective. So, my only choice was to go out and develop a kit for myself.

So, after much thought, the best solution for me is one that pops up about half the height of the originals and one that uses two lights per housing. My rational for the two lights per housing was to ensure the car looked balanced when the lights are being used. I want the car to look like its was designed this way, not retrofitted.

With the above in mind, I did much research on HID projector systems, wanting to find something that would give superior lighting while having OEM quality. My criteria was HID-based projector lighting for low beams as I wanted the 300% improvement in lighting that HID systems offered as well as the proper cutoff of projector style lights. For the highs, my only criteria was more lighting so for me, a halogen-based solution was just fine. To find the proper lights for my application, I spoke with the makers of OEM lighting for today's cars, including Hella. Hella then put me in touch with www.rallylights.com, one of Hella's leading retailers, and Will from rallylights.com was most helpful. He pointed me to the Hella headlamp modules they sold and I ultimately decided on the 50mm Xenon HID projector units for the low beams and the 90mm halogen units for the high beams. The 50mm unit specs can be found here:

http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=1796

And the 90mm halogen units are here:

http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=127

The good thing about these lights, in addition to their OEM quality, is they are sealed units as in they both have lens covers so they can be used as is. They also have mounting brackets which allow them to be adjusted via screws just like OEM units. The caution here is they are not cheap and everything I ordered, including the 4 lights and all needed hardware and brackets will set you back about $1,200. Yes, there are cheaper options but I want to do this right one time and then enjoy.

So, as I am mechanically challenged, I have Kilo Racing doing the fab work and the installation of these. To date, they've modified the control arm mechanisms on the headlight units so they now pop up to the correct height. They have also modified the brackets to fit into the headlight housings and they have test fitted the lights to ensure we're able to complete the conversion. They're now busy on finalizing the installation and adjustment of the lights. The final step in the process will be to have OEM-like shrouds made to complete the conversion and to give it a finished look. We're going to cut up the OEM shroud to reduce its height and then use this as the template for the new shrouds.

A few pics of the lights to date:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...b/IMG_0256.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...b/IMG_0257.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...b/IMG_0258.jpg

Note the lights aren't aimed correctly and also note the 50mm lights will be raised up so the tops of them are in line with the 90mm units.

The project should be done in a few weeks and I'll then post up the results!



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