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knonfs 02-21-2012 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher W. (Post 182937)
Ha, well another change!!

After getting one of the front Mariah fiberglass fenders widened it was decided....NO!

So no we rip up the original metal fenders. Luckily not on my dime but on Dougs!!

I have included Doug's comments with the photos.

"I think this will work better. After roughing in the custom fiberglass fender fattening, it became apparent that to get the right look we’d have to use the steel fenders. A more graceful line can be done this way, a look that’s truer to the original shape, and a perfect match to the rear."
http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/p...-15-102853.jpg

http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/p...-15-102814.jpg

"The rear of the fender gets relived vertically so that the original shape of the fender is maintained while allowing the flare to begin as subtly as possible."
http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/p...-15-103113.jpg

Here is picture of the wheels I bought from Forgeline. It is their new GW3R wheel.

http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/p..._image-467.jpg

Front: 18x9 +23 Toyo R888 255/35R18
Rear: 18x11 +38 Toyo R888 295/30R18

That was a hard decision. At the very last minute...I mean last seconds of placing the order I went against my life long love of exposed bolts. I got the hidden option. I also got the center lock conversion.

This picture is a little darker than I am wanting but only one I have here.

The pictures I have been sent of the wheels on the car where with a camera phone and made the centers almost look blue. I am after a bright silver center section but not polished or machined and a polished lip. I have seen different pictures of the same wheels and some they look almost gun metal (I don't want) and sometimes they look bright silver. If I don't like it I send them back and change the color for $80.00 a wheel. I will know for sure when I go pick up the car to take it to Defined.


BADASS, especially those wheels :cheers2:

Christopher W. 02-21-2012 01:39 PM

Thanks for the comments!!

DGRR would be nice. Ha, good dead line to give to Logan at Defined.

The body work won't be much longer at all. The whole car is already painted except for the front fenders.

Now that Logan has the intake figured out basically all that has to be done is get the intake made and installed. I am not sure where he is right now with the slide throttles but I imagine still in the process. But then I have to go and put 800-900 or so miles on it, get it dynoed and dialed in, get all the little punch list stuff done. I don't know if that is actually possible by then.

I gave up self induced dead lines long ago. They bring on nothing but tension..

RCCAZ 1 02-21-2012 05:58 PM

What's your horsepower goal with Logan. Something in the 375 RWHP range??

Christopher W. 02-21-2012 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCCAZ 1 (Post 183043)
What's your horsepower goal with Logan. Something in the 375 RWHP range??

Heh, heh..

We started out conservatively thinking around 350rwhp. I have basically left my car unfinished with Logan..other than the trip to St. Louis for the paint and body, for about two years.

The entire reason for just leaving it there is because Logan continued to make more and more HP. He now has his 20B FD making 475rwhp. But he is dry sumped and running up to 10k rpm. I am wet and going to 9k rpm.

You might of missed this thread on this forum and Logan has others on the other forum. He made 475 rwhp on a Dynapack dyno!!

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15079

or

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15078

The other difference is my setup probably won't have the external mounted injectors. But what you see in his thread is basically my setup to come. He still has to get the slide throttles functional for daily use but that is coming together as well.

Logan, who is pretty conservative, said that I could look for between 425 and 450rwhp with the lastest setup.

I think it has been worth the wait on possibly gaining 75 to 100 more HP than originally thought. :biggthumpup:

I don't care if he is still finding more hp. I am ready for my car!!

RCCAZ 1 02-21-2012 10:32 PM

Yes, I was aware that he was close to 500 RWHP, but also knew he was "cutting edge" with dry sump, tuned exhaust, 10K rpm and all of the other stops pulled out. Just wasn't sure how many of those things you planned to incorporate. 425 to 450 will be incredible. I think Logan needs to offer a "group buy" on 400+ HP 3 rotor engine builds, then crank out 5 to 10 in parallel builds :)

FDDandata 02-22-2012 09:29 PM

this is inspirational!!... but what good is being inspired with no money lol. Cant wait to see pics of the finished results, especially the dyno #s. Im feeling the whole build inside and out. Hopefully you get to make DGRR 12 cuz looks like you got plenty of people thats gonna be on the lookout for your car in particular

gmonsen 02-23-2012 12:06 PM

Chris... Looking great. PM me when you have a minute.

RCCAZ1... Right. Logan should do a group buy.

Gordon

RX-7FD3S 04-12-2012 09:30 AM

nononono. i read this entire tread in the hopes to se it finnished and running on the last page, get this thing dooone :D
dying to hear it brap :)

Oyvindjs 04-12-2012 10:40 AM

^^this :D

Christopher W. 04-12-2012 04:34 PM

Get it done!! Tell me about it. :o16:

The guy's shop doing the paint and body work had the employee doing the work on my car quit after ten years. He is having to pull another guy off of other projects to finish it. There is no hurry to get it to Logan's until the middle of May. Logan has three long term projects leaving in the next three weeks.

Logan is still finding new and bad ass ways to increase power. I actually talked to him today. I think we might open my engine back up and do some of his new stuff to the internals.

As long as I have it back by August I am good....hell I am good no matter!!

general7 04-14-2012 10:09 AM

Great looking project, gonna follow this one! :)

Christopher W. 04-18-2012 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher W. (Post 189452)
Logan is still finding new and bad ass ways to increase power. I actually talked to him today. I think we might open my engine back up and do some of his new stuff to the internals.

I retract that statement. I am not going to do anything to slow down getting my car back.

There will always be more HP to be had. I am just ready to drive my car.

By the way, it has always been my doing that pushed this project to such a long overdue completion. Just didn't want anyone to think Logan was the reason. I just always wanted more power.

Part of the sickness I guess.. :D

Christopher W. 10-16-2012 10:49 PM

My car is finally being worked on again.

Here is a link to the progress....too lazy to post the individual pictures..

http://dougjenkinsgarage.com/blog/category/mazdarx7/

MazdaMike 10-23-2012 02:54 PM

This thread is amazing, your basically building my dream FC (as long as it remains red).

Can't wait to see more progress.

Christopher W. 11-25-2012 08:47 PM

I keep getting these crappy camera phone pictures from my car's hostage taker. I already paid the ransom..... I am guessing in a couple of weeks the car will finally be at Logan's.

Was told four months......here we are 1.5 years later. F%$K that $h(t. This is completely unacceptable. This work better be PERFECT. I think it will be but no more hostage taking of my cars.

BIGGEST LESSON....DON'T PAY FOR ANYTHING...EXCEPT PARTS UNTIL THE WORK IS DONE. IF THEY CAN'T WORK WITH THAT THEN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/p...5_094245-1.jpg

All that being said.....it does look pretty sick!!

hybrid G 12-07-2012 08:51 AM

this a serious journey you are on....... loving it, can't wait to hear the 20b roar and see it all done

diabolical1 12-31-2012 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher W. (Post 222778)
All that being said.....it does look pretty sick!!

not for nothing, but you're absolutely right!



you're right about the other stuff, too!

gmonsen 01-11-2013 11:27 AM

Chris... All seems good, but what the heck happened that the bodywork took so long? And how about something in the way of pictures or do I have to drive over to Logan's?

Gordon

Christopher W. 08-03-2013 09:57 PM

Update is a little disturbing but it is all moving in a very solid direction.

This is to officially warn anyone that might be thinking of having Doug Jenkins Garage of House Springs Missouri to do anything for you....don't do it.

It is sort of funny to read how much I was suckered in by this con man....talented people in his hire but he himself is a really sad character.

I took the car to him and was told it would take 2-3 months...it took two years.

Payments were not accounted for.....until I pointed out his mistake. He told me he would have his office woman look into it. There is no office woman. Then when he realized that I had his number he blamed it on one of his shop workers. I bet Jason of his shop doesn't know he was blamed for a two thousand dollar payment being misapplied.

The point where I started to see this turd for what he is is when he said this, "The guys in the shop do the work and I am the one that acts like I am interested in the customer..." The statement pretty much sums up this loser.

Then he finally shipped the car to Logan. I had moved to California and I couldn't see the car before he had it delivered. He knew this was going to be the case if he procrastinated a little longer.

So I get to Defined Autoworks and I see that the car has many issues. Let me point out that if the average person walked up to the car and looked they would of been drooling. I am way to picky for that.

I have to say that the guy has really talented people in his hire. The metal work on the fenders is awesome. It looks like Mazda did a wide body edition. The fenders have custom fender liners and looks really nice. The paint is the issue....$8K for a paint job.

It has to be repainted. There are 80 grit scratches, and numerous different blemishes in the paint. I told him where to get the new metal surround for the new windshield...MazMart. He said he had contacted them and it was handled. When I get to my car I see this f@&ker has sides and bottom of the metal surround done correctly but put a strip of universal windshield rubber across the top of the car. It looks like a freakin eye lash. He didn't paint the entire body side molding pieces. It is as if he set them down on cardboard and sprayed the front but not the back or edges. The edges are all very rough. The same thing is done to the doors and the front cap. Maybe that is why he didn't actually attach the side molding pieces securely. They would of fallen off if it had been driven down the road. The seal across the top of the front cap isn't even there.

The stupid thing is is that the car was taken all the way apart. He could of easily done these things correctly if he hadn't be such a ass hat clown.

I had Logan recommend a local shop to repaint the car. He is Steve Rieser from Rieser Auto Body. Steve said they obviously have talent but took every short cut in the book on the paint. Jenkins does use Spies Hecker paint....one of the best paints.

I currently have a BBB and Missouri Attorney General complaints filed. I did find someone else who had a big issue with him and he finally had to pay up after the Attorney General got on his ass.

I have emailed him twice with no response but i am done with this loser... As soon as Logan is done then it goes to Rieser's shop. Then the six year build will be over.

The funny thing is is that if the jerk hadn't taken two years to finish then the next evolution of this project would not be happening.....Yes that was suppose to be cryptic.

You can wait and see the final project or stop by Logan's and see for yourself.

So to sum all of this up......my car project has step up a notch and is moving forward.

We are hoping to have it running later this fall.

Sorry, I did a restore on my phone and lost the only pictures I had of the car in it's current state. It does look sweet!!! :)

omega 09-22-2013 09:56 PM

Very nice!

Christopher W. 10-01-2013 07:42 PM

I was trying to keep this a secret...for some stupid reason.....

But if the ass wipe Doug Jenkins hadn't been such a total unethical loser...I would not now be having a 4 rotor installed. Funny how the universe works that way.

NA and nothing super trick but still it is a freakin 4 rotor. I am thinking by the end of November we will be getting ready for dyno. It is all there just Logan needs to find the time.

The engine will not have a dry sump. It will be built with 2mm seals. I am still trying to keep a/c. Although I now live in Northern California and the need is not there for a/c like it was in Arkansas. But I still want it if we can make it work. I will be winding to 8700 RPM. I am hoping for around 500-520 RWHP. I am not doing three plugs. I lost interest in a complicated exhaust bypass valve on my 3 rotor so I won't be messing with that on the 4 rotor. It will have a Racing beat aluminum center section for weight saving.

So that's where we stand.

Jaco 10-05-2013 01:35 AM

Awesome build. Love the body work, fab work, how clean everything is- Love the FC too :icon_tup:

need RX7 02-16-2015 10:48 PM

Any updates on this? I admired the cleanliness and quality work, and that last post is a major tease!

project86 05-13-2016 07:34 PM

Revival?


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