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Nutsid 09-03-2015 05:08 AM

I'm digging how the car is coming along, Mike. Slow, but damn it looks good.

RXtacy 09-08-2015 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 317129)
Right before we ANALyze the correlation between dimple die sets owned

Touché :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nutsid (Post 317310)
I'm digging how the car is coming along, Mike. Slow, but damn it looks good.

Thanks Dustin!

xcon 10-20-2015 04:24 PM

Nice work and looking good :)

RXtacy 10-21-2015 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by xcon (Post 319272)
Nice work and looking good :)

Good to see a new face :)

Thanks! It's been a little while, but I've been working on the intercooler mount, end tanks, and hard pipes. Should have an update soon once I'm done.

General form the end tanks are.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o...928_194235.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-t...928_194251.jpg

speedjunkie 10-22-2015 01:02 AM

I like those end tanks so far. Did you shape them that way or did you cut a pipe in half? I wish I'd thought of that. I guess that'll be for my next IC lol.

RXtacy 10-22-2015 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedjunkie (Post 319336)
I like those end tanks so far. Did you shape them that way or did you cut a pipe in half? I wish I'd thought of that. I guess that'll be for my next IC lol.

Cut a large pipe in half. Unfortunately I don't have the metal forming tools (or the skill lets be honest) to make the end tanks exactly how I wanted so I had to improvise. :icon_tup:

RXtacy 10-23-2015 08:15 AM

Got the intercooler mostly done. I also have the hot side pipe completed, I'll get pics when I put it back in the bay.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U...022_201402.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-B...022_201502.jpg

GySgtFrank 10-23-2015 08:37 AM

That is quite pretty. Appears that it should work as well as it looks.

RXtacy 10-23-2015 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GySgtFrank (Post 319384)
That is quite pretty. Appears that it should work as well as it looks.

Thanks Kevin. I spent a lot of time thinking about how to get the best flow, while still having it be aesthetically pleasing, and fit the space properly. I'm quite happy with how it turned out.

speedjunkie 10-24-2015 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RXtacy (Post 319344)
Cut a large pipe in half. Unfortunately I don't have the metal forming tools (or the skill lets be honest) to make the end tanks exactly how I wanted so I had to improvise. :icon_tup:

Shit, whatever man, that thing turned out great! I like those end tanks better than mine, and I designed mine myself lol. I wish I'd thought of that. How did you want them made?

This is how mine turned out, and I like your end tanks better lol.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f9...psfpvwipvy.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f9...psbbhhczoy.jpg

TitaniumTT 10-24-2015 12:54 PM

I'll post pics of the VMIC I designed that I'll be pulling apart today or tomorrow..... Depending on fever

speedjunkie 10-25-2015 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 319422)
....Depending on fever

Rotary fever?

TitaniumTT 10-25-2015 10:26 AM

lol... the 102* I spiked wednesday... Rotary Fever begins with the first snow flake

RXtacy 10-26-2015 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedjunkie (Post 319414)
Shit, whatever man, that thing turned out great! I like those end tanks better than mine, and I designed mine myself lol. I wish I'd thought of that. How did you want them made?

This is how mine turned out, and I like your end tanks better lol.

Thanks buddy!
:lol:
I wanted to use sheet metal and make all the transitions nice and rounded etc.

I like the entry/exit points on yours, that's what I was originally thinking/wanting to do with mine. The pipe routing just wasn't working out with my turbo placement.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 319443)
lol... the 102* I spiked wednesday... Rotary Fever begins with the first snow flake

Pussy.

RXtacy 10-26-2015 06:36 PM

Here is the hot side pipe done, and the beginning of the cold side.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W...026_174946.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D...026_175014.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M...026_174954.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9...026_175028.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E...026_175036.jpg

JL1RX7 10-26-2015 07:20 PM

Might this make an appearance at certain event in a few months? Looking good Mike.

RXtacy 10-26-2015 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JL1RX7 (Post 319538)
Might this make an appearance at certain event in a few months? Looking good Mike.

You mean deal's in 6 months? That would be nice but I'm not making any predictions.

speedjunkie 10-27-2015 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RXtacy (Post 319463)
Thanks buddy!
:lol:
I wanted to use sheet metal and make all the transitions nice and rounded etc.

I like the entry/exit points on yours, that's what I was originally thinking/wanting to do with mine. The pipe routing just wasn't working out with my turbo placement.

Well I think it still turned out pretty well. I like how yours is more direct from the turbo to the IC and not angled like mine. Speaking of, I didn't really want mine like that either, but I was under space constraints as well, so I definitely understand what you mean. I want to do clamps like you're using too but I'm not brave enough yet lol.

EDIT: See, this is what I want for end tanks lol. But I like how yours are simple and clean, without all the frankenstein welds that mine have lol.
http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...52&postcount=4

RXtacy 10-27-2015 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedjunkie (Post 319553)
Well I think it still turned out pretty well. I like how yours is more direct from the turbo to the IC and not angled like mine. Speaking of, I didn't really want mine like that either, but I was under space constraints as well, so I definitely understand what you mean. I want to do clamps like you're using too but I'm not brave enough yet lol.

EDIT: See, this is what I want for end tanks lol. But I like how yours are simple and clean, without all the frankenstein welds that mine have lol.
http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...52&postcount=4

Don't get me wrong I'm happy with how it turned out, but there are always ways to do things better :)

Something along this line is what I wanted to do.
http://www.fabricationlife.com/2014/...ercooler-pt-2/

TitaniumTT 10-27-2015 07:06 PM

I'd hit it like the first of an angry God
I'd PIIDB
Sexy brotha, I dig it

RXtacy 10-27-2015 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 319645)
I'd hit it like the first of an angry God
I'd PIIDB
Sexy brotha, I dig it

:naughty:
Thanks homie.

Sneak peak of the cold side pipe tacked up.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-a...027_202706.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E...027_202816.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I...027_202721.jpg

hades 10-27-2015 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RXtacy (Post 319652)

Why deep instead of a wider IC?

TitaniumTT 10-27-2015 11:45 PM

Reasons ;)

Are you gonna ditch that bullshit greedy BOV?

Also.... if you get up here early enough on the 20th, I sense some dimple dieing and powdercoating :suspect:

speedjunkie 10-28-2015 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RXtacy (Post 319575)
Don't get me wrong I'm happy with how it turned out, but there are always ways to do things better :)

Something along this line is what I wanted to do.
http://www.fabricationlife.com/2014/...ercooler-pt-2/

Yeah I hear ya. That's how I feel all the time lol.

And um, HOLY SHIT he did a great job on his end tanks. Wow. I like the Smurfette drawing too lol.

RXtacy 10-28-2015 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by hades (Post 319655)
Why deep instead of a wider IC?

Several reasons. Firstly being packaging space. I wanted to make sure I had enough room to run my air filter into fresh air.

Secondly intercoolers loose efficiency the wider you go. If I went wider, in order to get one that would be able to handle the upper range of my flow rate would have made it prohibitively tall. So I kept it as short (width) wise as I could and increased the depth to bring it above my needs for flow. Also wanted to keep the overall volume of the system as low as possible to help with boost response.

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 319660)
Reasons ;)

Are you gonna ditch that bullshit greedy BOV?

Also.... if you get up here early enough on the 20th, I sense some dimple dieing and powdercoating :suspect:

:dunno: Is there a reason to get rid of the Greddy? Does it leak at higher pressures?

Dimple dieing perhaps. I wanted to ceramic coat the piping though. Also kinda want to get it running and make sure it doesn't have a pinhole somewhere before coating :lol:

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Originally Posted by speedjunkie (Post 319664)
Yeah I hear ya. That's how I feel all the time lol.

And um, HOLY SHIT he did a great job on his end tanks. Wow. I like the Smurfette drawing too lol.

Yea that'a s professional fabricator for a race team, so you would expect the quality to be high, but it's nice to have something to shoot for :)

RXtacy 10-28-2015 09:39 PM

Finished the cold side pipe.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2...028_202314.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-A...028_202326.jpg

RXtacy 11-11-2015 06:20 PM

Finally got a clear day to take some pics of the finished piping.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-F...111_132328.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-L...111_132335.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W...111_132350.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Z...111_132402.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E...111_132413.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-B...111_132424.jpg

t_g_farrell 11-12-2015 10:14 AM

Nice work and I'm a newb to all this turbo stuff, but is that setup going to be too rigid?

Won't the engine moving a bit cause some stresses on the pipes or do the connections
and rubber isolators on the intercooler deal with that for you?

RXtacy 11-12-2015 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_g_farrell (Post 320279)
Nice work and I'm a newb to all this turbo stuff, but is that setup going to be too rigid?

Won't the engine moving a bit cause some stresses on the pipes or do the connections
and rubber isolators on the intercooler deal with that for you?

The radiator and intercooler are both completely isolation mounted. The Vanjen clamps also allow for ~15° of angular movement and ~.5" of axial movement. There won't be any problems with stresses between them due to engine movement.

TitaniumTT 11-12-2015 10:53 PM

I still say ditch that shock looking torque brace and brace the engine off the bay or build a tri-point strut/firewall brace

TitaniumTT 11-12-2015 10:53 PM

And yes.... still looks good. Did you get a chance to measure to see if the TiAL BOV will fit?

RXtacy 11-13-2015 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 320294)
I still say ditch that shock looking torque brace and brace the engine off the bay or build a tri-point strut/firewall brace

Why, because of engine movement?
That damper is jacked up so needs to go anyway, but I'm not real excited about the idea of hard mounting the engine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 320295)
And yes.... still looks good. Did you get a chance to measure to see if the TiAL BOV will fit?

Haven't really mapped it out, but it's not looking good. The existing Greddy RS is 3.5" tall from the flange and it is practically hitting the shock tower. With the dimensions you gave me the TiAL is 3.35" without the fitting. All the fittings I have found are .5" tall. I just don't think it will work in that location.

TitaniumTT 11-17-2015 07:53 PM

Yes, because of engine movement. You can grab some Energy Suspension sway bar end link bushing, or some generic bushings that you could use to isolate it. It will keep the axial rotation to a serious minimum while not creating additions to NVH

I'll have to look at the pics again, but IIRC the TiAL BOV can be sent pretty far into the elbow.

Or just sack up, weld the elbow shut, and put the TiAL on the charge pipe.

speedjunkie 11-17-2015 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 320445)
Or just sack up, weld the elbow shut, and put the TiAL on the charge pipe.

Or just get an EFR since it has the BOV built in. But of course I'm biased LOL

RXtacy 11-18-2015 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 320445)
Yes, because of engine movement. You can grab some Energy Suspension sway bar end link bushing, or some generic bushings that you could use to isolate it. It will keep the axial rotation to a serious minimum while not creating additions to NVH

You seem to be under the impression that the damper was soft and highly compliant. It was not. I'll look into the sway bar bushings.

Quote:

I'll have to look at the pics again, but IIRC the TiAL BOV can be sent pretty far into the elbow.

Or just sack up, weld the elbow shut, and put the TiAL on the charge pipe.
Yes I saw that, but it's still pretty tall.

Has nothing to do with my sack, I don't think a frankenstein patch will look good. I'd buy a new non flanged elbow if I was moving the BOV.

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedjunkie (Post 320447)
Or just get an EFR since it has the BOV built in. But of course I'm biased LOL

Hmm re-do turbo manifold, hardlines, hot side charge pipe, or move a BOV... Tough call :rofl:

TitaniumTT 11-18-2015 01:51 PM

^:smilielol5:

Frankenstein patch wouldn't be seen though. After its welded grind it down, sand it, do the same to the inside, then we Powdercoat it, never seen.... Or yeah, but a new elbow works work.
Remember my elbow started off as the same as yours, lots of cutting and welding etc. Took a while but it looks like a cast piece again

speedjunkie 11-19-2015 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RXtacy (Post 320453)
Hmm re-do turbo manifold, hardlines, hot side charge pipe, or move a BOV... Tough call :rofl:

I know! Totally worth it bro. LOL

RXtacy 12-08-2015 09:49 PM

Small update.

Made a AST filler neck.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-L...208_201015.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-s...208_201047.jpg

Also got in some parts to start on my exhaust.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W...208_212738.jpg

TitaniumTT 12-10-2015 10:24 AM

Nice. Did you cut the flange for the AST from plate or cut it off the old tstat housing?

RXtacy 12-10-2015 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 321448)
Nice. Did you cut the flange for the AST from plate or cut it off the old tstat housing?

Cut it off the old thermostat housing, then milled it flat with an end mill in my drill press. Mostly out of curiosity to see how terrifying it would be to do light mill work on the drill press. Not as bad as I anticipated. Not good for any sort of useable accuracy, but functional for general material removal.


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